TheodoreRoosevelt
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I heard some one mention that brown powder and tar are different types of heroin, and they may containe traces of different opiates....could someone please, in laymans terms, tell me what the differences are between brown powder and tar heroin,such as chemistry, composition, duration of the highs,and the quality of each???is it true that tar herion lasts longer and has traces of other active opiates???I could never tell a difference between them, besides that they look different.
As I already stated... To requote myself:
The difference is tar isn't purified and hence gets a consistency just like roofing tar, and refers to a very specific type of heroin (although it can rock up and get dried out, alas, just like real tar, and therefore be similar to powder heroin). It's usually darker in color, more pungent in smell, and it always has a higher amount of trace opiates like monoacetylmorphines 6 and 3 (mam-3 and mam-6) and the like, which results in a longer, more morphine-like high than regular heroin.
To sum up:
Tar heroin has more non-reacted morphine in it, resulting in more morphine, monoacetylemorphine-3 (MAM-3), and monoacetylemorphine-6 (MAM-6). This leads to a more morphine-like high, which will be sleepier, drowsier, longer lasting, and much more side effects (more puking, pins and needles, and itching and scratching, as well as other side effects resulting from a sharp increase in histimines released in the body similar to an allergic reaction).
Tar will have more side effects, a longer duration (about 6 hours compared to the 1-2 of powder or heroin that is not 'adulterated' with unacetylzed morphine). Since the refinement process of tar heroin is pretty much absent compared to powder heroin, the morphine is not fully reacted. Therefore you get many more morphines and only partially acetylzed morphines, whereas in powder heroin you pretty much only get heroin (diacetylmorphine), and very little amount of morphine and monoacetylmorphines.
Some prefer powder because of much less side effects and a cleaner and more alert and sociable high. Some prefer tar because it is cheaper, lasts much longer, and prefer a drowsier, more relaxed and sleepy high as opposed to a more sociable one. Some people love the itchiness and such side effects tar brings, others hate the itch. Some love the long duration, some think tar is ridiculously long in duration. Some don't mind puking and the allergic reactions tar brings on, some can't stand it.
In composition, in tar heroin the morphine base compound used for synthesis isn't fully reacted, which leaves behind a mix mixture of morphine, MAM-3, MAM-6, and diacetylmorphine. Powder heroin, the morphine is more fully acetylized, and you pretty much only get diacetylmorphine. In a way, tar heroin is 'cut' with active morphines, while powder is the one and only, heroin.
very very wrong grasshopper. all long term users I know around Chi town say they hat etar with a passion because it ruins their veins and requires extra steps to cook up unlike actual White Powder Raw Heroin.
People vary either way. I'm not wrong, you're not wrong. I was simply saying of the old heads that I personally talked to, many favored tar. I'm not saying this is true of all old heads, or even most. Just personal experience.
I think alot of people bae "generalizations" of heroin in "generk" based on only what ghthe yare even able to get. for exampel if someoen
Huh? I can't understand anything you said there buddy, please edit your comments.
what posesses you to think people like tar better is beyond me.
I prefer tar because it lasts 6-8 hours strong, whereas powder heroin lasts only an hour. I like the drowsier high of tar, the more relaxed high where you nod much easier, as opposed to the more sociable and comparatively alert high of just pure heroin.
Both are easy to prep, you just add water and mix... Some tar requires heat, some doesn't. In many cases, tar heroin is no different from powder heroin. I've had tar heroin that came in powder, and looked exactly like powder heroin (but was obviously different due to taste, smell, and effect).
I only shoot heroin so I really don't care about which is easier to snort. You can still snort regular black tar. Although snorting is absolutely disgusting - in my opinion, I can't understand what 'possesses' people to snort their heroin.
Both are just as harmful to the veins if you don't filter properly.
but in GENERl, whitre powder/china white is the best heroin, tar is pretty far behind it.
Buddy I seriously doubt you've ever had 'china white' if you live in the states. China White refers to heroin distributed by the Mafia about 4 decades ago, that was routed from Italy and Spain. Any white powder you get these days most likely comes from Colombia.
The way you talk about tar heroin, I am skeptical to believe you've ever tried tar heroin.
