Afgan Heroin???

[Surf N Satch]

I heard from a pretty knowlegable friend that approximately 90% of all the heroin in the United States is actually IMPORTED FROM AFGANISTAN!!
Ive actually heard figures like that before about our heroin, but is it really true that THAT MUCH DOPE come from THE OTHER SIDE OF THE GLOBE?!?Jesus man, that seems like a pretty high figure to me, my first guess of the leading importer would be Mexico, and i know that mexico has to be the second largest importer.damn, its really hard to imagine how many tons of brown powder, china white, and tar/shard heroin come over here on freightliners and cargo planes.Imagine how much they must seize weight-wise yerly.man my mouths watering lol. Anyways , Is it true that that much heroin is actually Afgan?! My buddy isnt dumb, so i kinda believe him. Im about to look around tomorrow when i wake up for a site that has info on imported dope.in the meantime, im about to sip on a cup of iced crown royal with my favorite mixer(concentrated poppy extract,or laudanum,whatever.)Id reccomend it, i thought it would ruin the opium buzz ,but it was really great when i tried it.Id reccomend it, it tastes like shit but the crown is smooth ,so that helps.
Have a good night/day

 

[jykkE]

If you get tar its from Mexico.
If you are on the east coast, you get it from Columbia.
If you get tan in the Northwest (Vancouver, etc), you get it from SE Asia.

 

[thugpassion]

I think its more like 90% of the worlds heroin comes from there. Thats not the % for just the U S.

 

[Surf N Satch]

id believe that more.It sounded kinda far-fetched that 90% of US dope came from all the way over there.im willing to bet most of the dope in the US comes across the mexican border in trucks and carried by mules(backpackers,whatever).anyone else have an idea?im gonna look around the net and find out for sure, ill let you guys know what i find.peace-
-satch

 

[sonnyluv]

I hear India and Iran are the major exporters of Afghani poppy
mostly to europe though

 

[mcwally]

2 biggest producers are Afghanistan and Burma (aka Myanmar), together they would grow almost 90% of the worlds opium/heroin, but directly in terms of the US market I dont know

wonder if its like the American Gangster Frank Lucas deal with heroin from afghanistan to the US lol

 

[thugpassion]

Pretty much all the dope on the west coast comes from mexico, I couldnt say about the rest of the country.

 

[sonnyluv]

I agree thug, a lot of Mexican Tar in the US.

I don't know though, we have all kinds of professional people in Afghanistan for "rebuilding". Certainly they know the value of that stuff.

Did you guys see the story on 60 minutes last week of that former NPR reporter who now lives in Afghanistan building factories and shit. She laughed when the reporter for 60 min asked her if the Taliban was growing Poppy. She said they were too stupid and said that poppy growth in Afghanistan is being done by capableforeign business men.
Afghans number one export: fucking poppy!

 

[Nagelfar]

I think they mean opium, or morphine, not heroin directly. Maybe the black tar producers in Mexico get their morphine from Afganistan and it's counted as where the opioid actually comes from in these statistics, then I'd believe it.

 

[RIGHTEOUS1]

Asia is the 2nd other place there are 3 where H comes from. In Asia it's called China white. It comes from a place called the Asian(?) Triangle. Afgan is kinda brown. It's all about the Poppy Plant and how they refine the stuff. Before we went into Afgan there was no Dope coming out at all the Taliban would not let the Farmers Grow it. Kinda strange Huh?

 

[chinacat311]

98.3% percent of all statistics are made up.

according to US Dept of Justice "2008 National Drug Threat Assessment", most east coast powder is from south America and the most if not all of the tar that is prevalent on the west coast is produced in Mexico.

and again the vast majority of it is transported overland through Mexico (even the powder headed for east coast). some of it comes by air through commercial airports, but more and more of the powder is trafficked overland by the Mexican Drug Trafficking Organizations (Mexican DTOs).

basically whoever these Mexican DTOs are who control the border and getting heroin into the country are probably supplying well over half (possibly closer to 2/3) of this nations dope fiends. i want a piece of that pie.

as far as the OP:

The availability of Southwest Asian heroin in the United States is at a low level and will very likely remain so in the near term.

http://www.usdoj.gov/ndic/pubs25/25921/heroin.htm#Top - its a good read for anyone curious as to the details of manufacturing and trafficking of the heroin that we use here in the US (they have sections for all illicit drugs, not just H)

 

[Nickatina]

Do you think that the amount of afghani heroin coming in has/will increase due to the US occupation, similar to when we were in Vietnam?

 

[Bubblegummer]

You would be suprised how much of it actually gets brought to the states by the US troops. Very big business.

 

[phr]

^
You got a source for that?

Do you think that the amount of afghani heroin coming in has/will increase due to the US occupation, similar to when we were in Vietnam?

No, that was a different time. Also, afaik, it has never been concretely proven exactly how much SEA dope was brought back by military personnel. But one could argue that the war did serve as a sort of introduction of SEA dope to the US market.

I don't see that happening with Afghani dope. Not as long as Mexico and SA still produces. Mexican/SA growing and trafficking operations are too well established. Not to mention their product isn't base. I don't think base was ever the most common form of dope in the US.

 

[Surf N Satch]

a lot of feedback here, thanks guys! I dont know where this brown powder came from that i just got, but its probably the best ive had. I was lucky enough to find my dealer soooo fuckeed up last night on valium,xanax, and brown powder she couldnt stay awake to finish two sentences. she was so fucked up, she tossed me a giant rock(approx. 1/2 gram) for $20!Its probably the best deal ive gotten.shes done it before too.i should get some more before she runs out of valium lol,hell, she even gave me 60mg of valium for driving her brother 3 blocks to the gas station too........lol, i dont like to take advantage of people, but when those people make thousands on dope, i thinks its a good thing to get an occasional hookup.usually im paying $75(when im lucky)-90 for a gram of midgrade-good brown powder,wich is a pretty good deal i think.Im kinda new to buying buying weight(well, gram wise). also, im usually paying approx. $150-200 for a gram of mid-good quality
tar/"shard"(i call it shard because its tar that breaks into shards).is tar usually that expensive??im new to buying tar.ive never been blessed with finding real china white for sale.has anyone had it before? how does it compare to brown powder or tar/shard?bleh, im ramleing, this dope and valiums got me talkative. thanks for the advice guys,peace-
-Rye

 

[jykkE]

Where do you live? Tar out west is usually $60-120/g.
Powder here in Atlanta is $150-200 and its amazing.

 

[Nickatina]

No, that was a different time. Also, afaik, it has never been concretely proven exactly how much SEA dope was brought back by military personnel. But one could argue that the war did serve as a sort of introduction of SEA dope to the US market.

I don't see that happening with Afghani dope. Not as long as Mexico and SA still produces. Mexican/SA growing and trafficking operations are too well established. Not to mention their product isn't base. I don't think base was ever the most common form of dope in the US.

Well I got to thinking, and supposedly the dope scene in NE USA has improved with much higher quality product as of late (I haven't done any in a while so I wouldn't know myself). I know that base is all you get up here and that mostly doesn't come from Mexico, so it really wouldn't surprise me if it was coming from Afghanistan. And if these dealers are selling better product without having to raise the price/cut it to shit, then the drugs must be coming cheap. And it sure is cheap in Afghanistan ... I can only speculate but would it really surprise you if some military men are smuggling dope back into the US?

 

[Surf N Satch]

i live in the midwest, kansas city to be precise.Usually i wont buy tar if its over 150 a G, but it usually some pretty fire stuff. ive got quite a tolerance, and a good $20-30 piece of tar usually gives me a rush so hard i have to sit downmost of the time. tar here is better than most may think, and even tho powder is cheaper, it cooks up good and gives you just as much bang for your buck as tar.I guess its cheaper for me than tar because i get powder and tar from 2 different people most of the time. sometimes i get tar and powder from the same person....i wonder why the powder is cheaper if i get such quality stuff tho.......a 20$ "button" of tar gets me higher than a 20$ piece of tar a lot of the time, unless my buddy hooks it up on the tar. i have been good friends with my powder deaaler for a while now tho...

 

[thugpassion]

In cal. most people sell 20$ pieces all day, witch is around .2grm. Iv heard people buying grams for around 60 bucks (usualy softer), but that is most likely shitty. A good grm. if around 100$, and is like you said hard and breaks off in shards. Anything that costs more than that had better be reeaaaly good.

 

[methadon3000]

Honestly, HOW DO YOU THINK HEROIN AND COCAINE IS BROUGHT 'EN MASSE' into North America. I'm here in Canada and its innundated with crack and coke as well, not so much heroin but that crack/coke shit is easier to get/find than weed, and it's not just this part of Canada or N.A.

It was WELL known and admitted times and times again that the C.I.A. traded guns for cocaine with the Colombians wich is a WELL KNOWN FACT (look it up). Heroin and Cocaine are LUXURY ITEMS, do you understand, like coffee and cigarettes except they are illegal, so somebody (and not just bunch of Africans or Arabs or Asians I'm talking about here, I'm talking about HIGH LEVEL TRADE) has to bring it in. Now of course opiates are a great DISTRACTION (from the world affairs) ESP in North America, and the U.S. government knows about this LONG AGO!