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Acid test experiment **Read all** for users and non users

What a waste of goddamn time.

Everyone here has used psychedelics. And if they haven't, they sure as fuck aren't going to do your "experiment"
 
yea this is pretty dumb. i dont care about the minor alterations psychadelics have made to my depth perception - what's more significance is the insight and life changing, life affirming, beauty that these substances summon from your psyche. the true experiment should just be a simple survey of how many people find psychadelics to have been spiritually significant in their life.
 
actually, i like the feeling of seeing my body "morphing" in front of the mirror when tripping hard.
I guess it depends on what you are, though. I was never on LSD while staring in the mirror, just Shrooms or DXM
 
Once I stared in the mirror when tripping on DXM, and I didn't recognize who I was. Very alarming at the time, thought "I" had disappeared and been reborn as another person..or something. :\
 
THE WOOD said:
actually, mirrors are really good at bending light. thats about it.

im not trying to be a dick or anything, ive just met hundreds of ppl doing pseudopsychological tests involving acid which have made no sense to me. imo acid makes you think some crazy things ya know ;)
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Kurt Vonnegut never claimed to be any more than a fiction writer, I don't think he believed they were leaks in anywhere but his writings, or in reality on some sort of metaphorical/symbolic level at the most. He was a rational guy.
 
Until the OP comes back to explain the point of this, and/or posts it in a non-psychedelic forum for comparison, I am going to close this thread. I will be happy to re-open it when the OP explains him/her self.

But until then, this thread has regressed to the point of pointlessness.
 
Re-opened

The OP contacted me via PM and explained this to me. I decided to re-open it as the experiment really could have some value. I told the OP to post in the re-opened thread with some explanation and so forth, so hopefully he will.
 
Hey sorry I never properly explained myself in the thread, I was just hoping for at least a few non psychedelic users to post their own feedback so I could have a control group, and compare results from a non psychedelic user to a psychedelic user. I posted a link to this thread in the "other drugs" forum, but didn't get too much feedback. The whole point of this experiment was to test the possibility that long term psychedelic drug use can cause impairment in perceiving depth. I'm not trying to knock on psychedelics as a user myself who found them very beneficial in other respects, I'm just trying to test this idea out. The reason behind it is for several weeks after my last trip I felt like I was looking at the world through a flat movie screen portraying an illusion of depth, and as a result felt less in control, in a way like watching someone elses life. This might have just been more of my own doing; thinking there was something wrong when in reality it was all in my head (pun intended), but regardless these symptoms have long passed. I have heard other users describing the same movie screen effect.
So for those of you who did the experiment thanks for participating and being patient (at least some of you =D) I would like to know what your results were and the following:
What is your history of psychedelic drug use?
What is the largest dose you have taken?
How often do you take psychedelics?
When is the last time you tripped?
Do you feel any impairments from your psychedelic drug use?
Thanks a lot guys..and on a side note I'm planning to go to bonaroo this year and I'm looking forward to what should be an awesome time.
 
that's weird, cuz that is actually how science explains vision. it's really a flat screen of jumbled images, but your eyes-brain-system-thing "interpret" it into 3 dimensions. so the acid just got you to see what was real. a little beyond what you wanted to accept perhaps...
 
haha maybe so, the entire science behind vision is pretty complex..our retinas processing images upside down, and possibly backwards (can't remember if this is so), then our brain interprets them so we see everything normally. So you are right, but I think drugs might break down our ability to perceive depth, and pay attention to details like that which we normally would disregard.
 
Interesting to think that we never actually see anything. We see reflections of things.

While talking to a painter I once commented, "Ever paint sunrises?"

He said, "Paint the original light source? I would never dare."

Peace,
PL
 
Pimp Lazy said:
Interesting to think that we never actually see anything. We see reflections of things.

While talking to a painter I once commented, "Ever paint sunrises?"

He said, "Paint the original light source? I would never dare."

Peace,
PL
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well, we never actualy touch, see, hear, feel anything. even our brain/body is just an illusion.
 
Youkai said:
well, we never actualy touch, see, hear, feel anything. even our brain/body is just an illusion.
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I hear this a lot but I don't think it means much. It's seems like a confusion of definitions and of language and not descriptive at all. If anything what we sense is about as real as it gets for humans. Whether what we think about what we sense is accurate to what is actually going on is a different matter all together. My brain, matter in general is not illusion. It exists as far as sane humans can understand. Just because we cannot explain what something is or define it exactly doesn't mean it is fake or doesn't exist. When people take psychedelics they change their perspective of the relationship between A and B. But outside of their perspective nothing has changed. A and B remain the same as before. A and B exist outside of what we think or sense about them; they are what they are. What we call them is just part of Truth, but it is not illusion.

The root of illusion in New Age thought seems to be from Buddhism, but the use of Illusion in Buddhism is metaphorical and not literal. When people take that teaching literally and still transform their suffering into acceptance I suppose they've attained their goal, but it is not Truth as far as I can tell. But the goal of Buddhism is not Truth-exactly, but Truth-so-far-as-it-pertains-to-the-willful-acceptance/transformation-of-Suffering.

I'm not being figurative; we see light. We see bouncing waves and not actual objects. It's just interesting to think about it.
 
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Pimp Lazy said:
I hear this a lot but I don't think it means much. It's seems like a confusion of definitions and of language and not descriptive at all. If anything what we sense is about as real as it gets for humans. Whether what we think about what we sense is accurate to what is actually going on is a different matter all together. My brain, matter in general is not illusion. It exists as far as sane humans can understand. Just because we cannot explain what something is or define it exactly doesn't mean it is fake or doesn't exist. When people take psychedelics they change their perspective of the relationship between A and B. But outside of their perspective nothing has changed. A and B remain the same as before. A and B exist outside of what we think or sense about them; they are what they are. What we call them is just part of Truth, but it is not illusion.

The root of illusion in New Age thought seems to be from Buddhism, but the use of Illusion in Buddhism is metaphorical and not literal. When people take that teaching literally and still transform their suffering into acceptance I suppose they've attained their goal, but it is not Truth as far as I can tell. But the goal of Buddhism is not Truth-exactly, but Truth-so-far-as-it-pertains-to-the-willful-acceptance-of-Suffering.

I'm not being figurative; we see light. We see bouncing waves and not actual objects. It's just interesting to think about it.
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I understand this


but think of it from this persepctive

YOU ARE ALONE.

when Im sleepingf or instance, I am in another material world, through lucid dreaming you can actualy control this dream in which I speak, but to you Im still here in the material world. But when you sleep, you are in your own material world where you may actualy see me there as well/maybe not. but I see you in this material world. Maybe this material world is just one constant of an infinate number of material existences, but for that to be then the only REAL constant is thought, and any knowledge you put towards that thought is based in that material world... get what Im saying?

I know Im here, but when Im "not here" am I realy still here?

and then there is the whole paradigm of seperation, nothing seperates us here but thought, but if you claim that this is material, matter. Then thought must be a product as this material, so if it was then it is all ust one thing, this giant ever lasting self experienceing thing in which the word material doesnt apply, as it is all the same fucking thing.


but I try not to realy think on those levels anymore, it just throws you in to stuper (for me at least) but it's still valid points none the less.
 
LetS-|-Dimensions said:
Do you feel any impairments from your psychedelic drug use?
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Hell yes, for about 2 weeks after my 14mg/kg DXM dose (the trip was the shit, soooo amazing) i felt like i was only a "shell" without an inner life, i didn't feel able to connect to my outer world. a bit like i was trapped inside myself. My mind and thoughts felt flat and stupid and i thought i was missing emotions even tho i knew they were there. Yeah, for a few days i was affraid that i might be retarded or something, but the effects wore off after about 2 weeks and everything seems normal again. The next time i will be more carefull.
 
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