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A serious thread about online poker

I am about breakeve maybe down 100 after rakeback. I am up 200 in sng's and down 400 in cash games. pretty much a habit of mine to take my winnings and go sit at 10 or 25nl.

anyone else play a lot of poker online? I have not read anything but am going to go pick up harringon on cash games tomorrow. SNG's are just kinda boring to me. oh yea, 1000 game sample on SNG an about 15-20K hands at cash
 
jeah said:
I am about breakeve maybe down 100 after rakeback. I am up 200 in sng's and down 400 in cash games. pretty much a habit of mine to take my winnings and go sit at 10 or 25nl.

anyone else play a lot of poker online? I have not read anything but am going to go pick up harringon on cash games tomorrow. SNG's are just kinda boring to me. oh yea, 1000 game sample on SNG an about 15-20K hands at cash
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These samples are too small to mean much. Just play with proper bankroll management and track your stats using a database such as hold'em Manager to make sure you don't have leaks.
 
I've never read a single piece of literature about poker and I don't think I ever will.
I have never used poker tracker or hud or any of that shit and still have always been a winner. /dicksizing :]

I was taught the game as a child and have many years of experience even at my young age.

Hadn't been playing much lately though.
But deposited the other night and I'm grinding .50/1$ and 1/2$ PLO 6max

I'm up 1,600 from 200 in a week :]

Oh also forgot, I watched the ME final table on ESPN3 and my guy Joseph Cheong really let me down.

How can you play an 8k man tourney for 8 days, have almost a million chips with 3 players to go and stack off vs a 4bet with A9 or whatever ace raggy hand he had.
The difference there is almost 4 fucking million dollars!

I'm sure that's gonna sting for a very very long time.

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Bill said:
I've never read a single piece of literature about poker and I don't think I ever will.
I have never used poker tracker or hud or any of that shit and still have always been a winner. /dicksizing :]

I was taught the game as a child and have many years of experience even at my young age.

Hadn't been playing much lately though.
But deposited the other night and I'm grinding .50/1$ and 1/2$ PLO 6max

I'm up 1,600 from 200 in a week :]

Oh also forgot, I watched the ME final table on ESPN3 and my guy Joseph Cheong really let me down.

How can you play an 8k man tourney for 8 days, have almost a million chips with 3 players to go and stack off vs a 4bet with A9 or whatever ace raggy hand he had.
The difference there is almost 4 fucking million dollars!

I'm sure that's gonna sting for a very very long time.
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all dicksizing aside, you would almost certainly improve your stats with a database program. I've never heard of a top player who doesn't use one, or at the very least, a HUD (which relies on an underlying DB program to show the stats of the opponents at the table).

1600 from 200 in a week is a seriously small sample size, but congrats on a good week.

Regarding the ME, I assume you are referring to a heads up hand? How deep were the stacks? In the games I have played, folding A9 heads up at a Final Table would always be a serious error. But I've never bought into an event higher than the $216 weekly specials on Party Poker and Full Tilt.
 
No I said they were three handed.

Cheong had like 90mill
Duhamel had like 80mill
and the shortstack Racener had like 27mill

Also like I said he shoved his whole stack vs a 4bet three handed.
I'm sure he's trying to get Duhamel to fold but he pretty much snap called with queens because Cheong had been 3 and 4betting him all night and bullying him to fold.

I just can't believe after all those times of getting him to fold after the 4 bets and duhamel 4 bets he fucking has to have a monster hand that def dominated A9, but Cheong shoves his whole stack and ends up going out in 3rd place winning something like 4million USD.

It's def not a bad pay day at all lol but considering how good Cheong was playing he was def mine and alot of other people favorite to take it down.

He'll most prolly never have that chance again.
 
Bill said:
No I said they were three handed.

Cheong had like 90mill
Duhamel had like 80mill
and the shortstack Racener had like 27mill

Also like I said he shoved his whole stack vs a 4bet three handed.
I'm sure he's trying to get Duhamel to fold but he pretty much snap called with queens because Cheong had been 3 and 4betting him all night and bullying him to fold.

I just can't believe after all those times of getting him to fold after the 4 bets and duhamel 4 bets he fucking has to have a monster hand that def dominated A9, but Cheong shoves his whole stack and ends up going out in 3rd place winning something like 4million USD.

It's def not a bad pay day at all lol but considering how good Cheong was playing he was def mine and alot of other people favorite to take it down.

He'll most prolly never have that chance again.
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I'd have to watch the whole hand but as described, seems like a good play to me.
 
I want to punch someone at the WSOP in the face. Is it necessary to make an all-in take 3 minutes after the chips are in? Just run the flop turn and river already !
 
Online Poker

Anyone playing online poker right now? If so, where and what are youy playing. Thought we could get a thread going for those of us playing to trade live stories as they occur. Especially playing in tournaments. I am on PokerStars under the screen name Boulder257.
 
I'm feeling kinda dense tonight, what do you mean by 'tard slow', Bill?

I've just got back into playing, still at my low levels but I'm doing OK at the 90/180 player MTTs. Managed two second-places in the last week or so; got close in a few other games, and played reasonably well: been losing to suckouts, not bad play (re-raise guys all in PF: my AJ loses to J9, my AK to AT). So hopefully can keep things going :)
 
Sup OP, just came across thread today. Good 2 c another grinder making it to drug forums ;) I'm a med. stakes grinder myself with most of the volume put in 2/4 - 5/10nl. I play mostly on some of the euro sites and smaller sites as I find the field alot softer at the stakes I play. I'm just sick of FT and stars' bumhunters dodging 6max games and playin hu only when the good opportunities arise :( What stakes you play? My bad If you mentioned it already cuz I'm too lazy to go thru this thread. And another question I would like to ask you is what is your favorite drug to be on while putting in a decent amount of hands? if you do have one lol.
 
I don't play much any more. The grind took its toll. I never got past the $24 and $75 SNGs. I couldn't make any big big scores in the large MTTs, which is where the money is.
 
oh ok cool. yaaa mtts are such brutal variance... thats why we call it donkaments right lol
ill be in LAPC WPT event in January. You should come! Plenty of events ranging from small to big buyins. Run goot one tyyme!
 
Fjones said:
all dicksizing aside, you would almost certainly improve your stats with a database program. I've never heard of a top player who doesn't use one, or at the very least, a HUD (which relies on an underlying DB program to show the stats of the opponents at the table).
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i disagree, playing with HUDs is terrible imo. it's personal choice obv but when i used a hud i found myself relying too much on it.

i just take an assload of notes and sharkscope diligently. every time an unknown makes an aggressive play i tag a "?" colored note on him, so in little time i will learn if he's a reg or not.

i grind 12/180s and 45s/18s (up to $38) on pokerstars, same name as my BL.

ur right tho, it's all volume. volume volume volume. when you think about it like that it's so ez. volume and don't be afraid to experiment. (comfortable BR required ldo.)

i've only recently taken my game to the next level after a severe summer slump, after which i figured out why downswings rape your life: you start playing less.

im just sad cuz of the ridiculous legislation that's set to pass. i hope i have a year or two to grind (bout to be supernova, prob will aim for SNE if there's no blackout 'til 2012) cuz i'm head over heels in love with poker.

re MTTs, i dunno, i'm not really feeling them. they're too soul-sucking imo. i don't like sitting down and playing for 8+ hours, longer than that for WCOOP and other majors. i've also read that the reward curve wrt income peaks @ 75K. i'll be more than fine making 75-100k a year, and to do that i don't need to play MTTs. in fact i think if you just play satellites (you get 11k if you satellite to the WSOP, for example, and those are ridonkulously easy) and take the cash you'll (at least I) will be much better off in terms of reward v time invested.

plus if you put in sick volume you get $20-40k in rakeback alone. ez game.
 
KamMoye said:
i disagree, playing with HUDs is terrible imo. it's personal choice obv but when i used a hud i found myself relying too much on it.

i just take an assload of notes and sharkscope diligently. every time an unknown makes an aggressive play i tag a "?" colored note on him, so in little time i will learn if he's a reg or not.

i grind 12/180s and 45s/18s (up to $38) on pokerstars, same name as my BL.

ur right tho, it's all volume. volume volume volume. when you think about it like that it's so ez. volume and don't be afraid to experiment. (comfortable BR required ldo.)

i've only recently taken my game to the next level after a severe summer slump, after which i figured out why downswings rape your life: you start playing less.

im just sad cuz of the ridiculous legislation that's set to pass. i hope i have a year or two to grind (bout to be supernova, prob will aim for SNE if there's no blackout 'til 2012) cuz i'm head over heels in love with poker.

re MTTs, i dunno, i'm not really feeling them. they're too soul-sucking imo. i don't like sitting down and playing for 8+ hours, longer than that for WCOOP and other majors. i've also read that the reward curve wrt income peaks @ 75K. i'll be more than fine making 75-100k a year, and to do that i don't need to play MTTs. in fact i think if you just play satellites (you get 11k if you satellite to the WSOP, for example, and those are ridonkulously easy) and take the cash you'll (at least I) will be much better off in terms of reward v time invested.

plus if you put in sick volume you get $20-40k in rakeback alone. ez game.
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You use Sharkscope HUD but not a database for overlays of VPIP/PFR/Aggression ? ?

that seems very odd. Of course, everyone has his own approach, but I would say that 95% of the highly profitable players use a database HUD overlay for their opponents' tendencies. YOU should play very differently against a 57/34 than you would against a 17/15. Depriving yourself of that information is - EV. IF you're "relying on it too much" that might just mean you aren't using the information correctly. I don't say that as an insult at all; learning how to properly integrate the slash stats of opponents is an entire skillset that takes practice and study to master.

Regarding the taxes - Perhaps making more than 75K bumps you into a higher tax bracket but you'd still net more money than if you were in the lower tax bracket.
 
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