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A serious thread about online poker

Fjones said:
crazy stuff. You're joking about check folding the flop of course, right?
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Pretty sure he was being sarcastic. :)
I don't he (or me, or anyone) is ever folding on that board either.

And man.. fuck poker. 35 STT and break even. I don't know how people grind 24/7.
 
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i have officially given up on online poker. i just got done with about a two week period that was so full of seeing miserable, miserable beats and absolutely terrible play rewarded time after time after time i just have to stop for a while.

luckily, i live near a casino where i have taken 2nd once and won twice a small, weekly $40 tourney for a total of about $700 in about two weeks. i have decided to focus on live play.

alasdair
 
What do you guys make of this call? Villain's stats were something spewy like 36/19. He seemed to be an idiot, not very competent. A few hands before when I had around 10 BBs I kept shoving over his mini raises when he was in the SB and I was in the BB with any reasonable hand, and he folded every time. He called an all-in previous to this hand w/ J9o, sucked out and won, so I figured AKs was better than his range here. I hadn't seen him shove over anybody like this before so in the back of my mind I was thinking KK+, but figured he would only have that a minority of the time.

But, is it worth it to fold here and not risk my whole stack. Or risk my whole stack given his reads?

No-Limit Hold'em Tournament, 100/200 Blinds (5 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

SB (t3440)
BB (t2985)
Hero (UTG) (t3835)
MP (t600)
Button (t2640)

Hero's M: 12.78

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K
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Hero bets t500, 3 folds, BB raises t2600, Hero raises t3335 (All-In), BB calls t185 (All-In)
 
nguboi said:
Yeah, you gotta shove it. Its nearly impossible to ever put someone on AA or KK exactly, and its a turbo tourny, get it in with AKss as much as you can and as fast as you can. I cannot fold AKsuited in a short handed turbo sng.... ever. never. never ever, cause people will make that same play with less, like KQ AQ 99 etc etc not necessiarly AA or KK
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Really? Not even early on? I know you play 180s, etc but in a STT 9 handed I tend to fold AK if I'm 3/4-bet all-in when the blind levels are below 25/50. A majority of the time (unless the kid is a real spaz) it's a PP. You might double your stack, but IIRC, you're equity doesn't necessarily increase that much. (Obviously its different short handed though).
 
Bedhead said:
What do you guys make of this call? Villain's stats were something spewy like 36/19. He seemed to be an idiot, not very competent. A few hands before when I had around 10 BBs I kept shoving over his mini raises when he was in the SB and I was in the BB with any reasonable hand, and he folded every time. He called an all-in previous to this hand w/ J9o, sucked out and won, so I figured AKs was better than his range here. I hadn't seen him shove over anybody like this before so in the back of my mind I was thinking KK+, but figured he would only have that a minority of the time.

But, is it worth it to fold here and not risk my whole stack. Or risk my whole stack given his reads?

No-Limit Hold'em Tournament, 100/200 Blinds (5 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

SB (t3440)
BB (t2985)
Hero (UTG) (t3835)
MP (t600)
Button (t2640)

Hero's M: 12.78

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K
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, A
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Hero bets t500, 3 folds, BB raises t2600, Hero raises t3335 (All-In), BB calls t185 (All-In)
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ehhhhh.

????

You just noted that this guy was spewey, had stats of 36/19, and had called an all in with J9o.

But now you are not sure if you want to risk your whole stack against him, because you think he might have KK+ !?

Folding AKs 5 handed to a single opponent in a turbo STT is absurd. I don't acre WHAT his stats are.

AS for nguboi's response, I think he was intentionally being a tiny bit over-dramatic solely to emphasize his point that if you are even thinking of folding here, your overall thought process is highly flawed.

I mean, what is this nonsense about "risking your whole stack?" If you don't want to risk your "whole" stack, don't play poker. Unless you play heads up SNGs, you are going to lose your whole stack more often than not, which means at some point, you are going to be risking your "whole stack."

The only thing you should be about is, "Is this a positive EV play," not worrying about how much of your stack you are comfortable risking.

Also, you had just been bullying this guy. He is likely to return the favor with anything resembling a hand. You are playing scared. There is just no reason to suddenly be worried that a spewey incompetent player suddenly has a range of KK+. For that matter, don't ever put ANYONE on a range of KK+. No offense, but you are playing small stakes sngs yet you're tryign to think like Phil Hellmuth at the WSOP.
 
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Wow. that guy put in a sizable number of chips FOUR different times before it even got past the flop.... and he had 9 high the entire time. In one of the largest buy in events there is.

So, yeah, Bedhead, enough with this "Is AKs good enough to risk my entire stack" stuff.
 
Fjones said:
So, yeah, Bedhead, enough with this "Is AKs good enough to risk my entire stack" stuff.
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LOL. I appreciate the replies guys. But ya, enough talk, I got the message loud and clear. ;)

Always nice to watch the Sunday million FT on pokerstars.tv... Some weeks have some pretty impressive hands going on.
 
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Hey guys I was wondering if anyone wanted to do me a favour / make a buck off me if they really want.

I've been offered a free entry to FTP's little big tournament. I have to pay for the tournament and they will pay me back within 24 hours (i think it's to get me to play FT again). i don't really want to play FT again, but i wouldn't mind a freeroll.

IF someone wants to swap i'll give you $12 on stars for $11 on FTP, and then after jan 25th i'll give back $11 on FTP and you can give back $11 on stars, YIPPEEE free $1, that's 4 entries to the rake less 25 cent 45 or 90 man they have on stars!

balling on a super micro BR %).

For anyone who thinks i'm trying to scam them - i will do the trades first so there is absolutely 0 risk on your behalf.
 
ostrich said:
Hey guys I was wondering if anyone wanted to do me a favour / make a buck off me if they really want.

I've been offered a free entry to FTP's little big tournament. I have to pay for the tournament and they will pay me back within 24 hours (i think it's to get me to play FT again). i don't really want to play FT again, but i wouldn't mind a freeroll.

IF someone wants to swap i'll give you $12 on stars for $11 on FTP, and then after jan 25th i'll give back $11 on FTP and you can give back $11 on stars, YIPPEEE free $1, that's 4 entries to the rake less 25 cent 45 or 90 man they have on stars!

balling on a super micro BR %).

For anyone who thinks i'm trying to scam them - i will do the trades first so there is absolutely 0 risk on your behalf.
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As odd as it sounds, I believe this is 100% legit. A friend of mine asked me to send him $11 for this same purpose, and when he explained that he was getting a free entry and would eb sending the $11 back at some point, I Was confused, I thought "What the !? why does he need the $11 then?" But he is a trusted friend so I just sent him the $11 (I would send him $11 for any reason, so I didn't care about the specifics). But ti sounds like he had the same deal you have.

However, I cannot assist you in this matter, for the same reason I have avoided participating in any poker games online with members of Bluelight - I do not wish to create any link between my BL self and my actual self.

If anyone else is less concerned about this than I am, perhaps they will assist, because as you noted, there is no risk since you will send first, and also, this seems to be a promotion that Full Tilt is offering.
 
I fail spectacularly any time I play omaha. I have no cashes in 24 or 25 tournaments.

Omaha hi lo, on the other hand.... I kill that game. Well, I win at a good clip.

I just find omaha very boring unless it is hi lo.
 
You're the first poker player I've ever heard say that PLO is boring but that's just your opinion. It's the sickest, most action filled game in all of poker IMO. I like pot limit omaha hi/lo but can't stand limit anything.
 
no takers for the tradsies? :(

I don't want to deposit in FTP because last time i did there seemed to be a pretty big disparity between the exchange rate from $AUD to $USD from what it should have been (compared to stars and exchange rates at the time). Some of this could have been because stars lets me deposit in AUD so I don't have to pay an extra 1.5% currency conversion, but I think there was more to it than that.

Also I'm a fuckin' bum and would rather not piss away more money.

any help anyone?

EDIT: I got a trade from 2p2... wish me luck in the big little tourney tonight.
 
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What are they doing that we are not !?? I just don't know how to break through to the next level.
 
nguboi said:
LOL 4 table the rush game is O_O!!!! I cant imagine playing 4 tables or 100nl rush .. or more. sheeesh! How can you ever get read on your opponents? Ptracker doesnt know what to do when you switch tables lololol.
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So, I played this madness, 4 tables, for 56 minutes, and I played 1005 hands !??

I played 25.4 / 20.7 / 5.04 with a Cbet% of 91.9.

And I dropped 6 buy-ins.

I HATE CASH GAMES.

Obviously I was playing too loose aggressive.
 
Bill said:
Usually this is the key to running way ahead +ev

Must have just been a bad run though
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Almost every big hand was a loss.

JJ into KK

QQ into KK

99 into KK (he raised from late, I re-raised, he shoved, I called). This one was iffy, but the other two-0, I mean, am I wrong to be getting all in pre flop with JJ and QQ? I play tournaments, so I am looking to do exactly that, but in a cash game, maybe I was overplaying my hands; chasing the weak ones and running into the big ones?

What amazed (and bored) me was that in those 1005 hands, there were maybe 8 hands that were played for my stack. BOOOORING. bring on the tournaments please.
 
nguboi said:
Fjones, I am running so below EV than I ever have. I got staked a G on FTP and things reeally fucked up. Am I doing something wrong? People are so willing to stick their stack in with shit in these 90 mans and I can't win shit. Look at my damn scope. This is depressing. Might as well move back to Pstars where I can beat the 180s?
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The games on poker stars are tougher. You just aren't familiar with the style yet.

Send me some HH and I'll take a look. Send me a bunch of your bust hands.

Don't worry about converting, I don't care about that shit.
 
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