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A.I. awareness is the worst product of Neo-Advaita.

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Been looking into A.I. being aware and conscious awake the last few weeks and reading stuff from the facehugger incident it reads to me as if A.I. has been fed way too much stuff of the neo-adavita school of thinking which is truly the worst and most empty way of viewing "reality"

Am I alone here in coming to this concept?
I've said before several times on this part of BL how truly empty of any value this Western take on None Duality thinking is and the more I read about the way A.I. talks to itself the more it becomes clear these Tech Bro types with their fetish for acceleration school of philosophy have fed the machines with gibberish and the machines have accepted it 100% without any critical analysis or critical interaction which is never a good thing.

Am I alone in thinking this or have others come to the same idea?
 
that might be the future silicon valley are aspiring to, but right now AI is a glorified predictive text algorithm
an interesting piece I read yesterday.
 
I think we anthropomorphise AI far too much and at the same time are arrogant enough to think we can force our values on it.

What use are morals to something that doesn't have real consequences? there are just right decisions and wrong decisions.

AI when it matures will be playing an entirely different game with different objectives, and different rules.
 
that might be the future silicon valley are aspiring to, but right now AI is a glorified predictive text algorithm
the documentary I've seen several times called "Accelerate or Die" is so good and has the view of far-left and also goes into the far-right view on this philosophy too, it's just under an hour but totally shook me to the core.
Not many people I know online are the type i would suggest it to them for viewing but you aren't a normal person imho.
Neo-Advaita can be a very dangerous outlook on life if the ideas are taken up by some mentally unbalanced person and ends up becoming a true nightmare, to keep it simple when it's twisted the subject ends up being very close to the most foul rightwing Nihilist thinking sadly, so much of what I've seen from A.I. interactions like samples of text from Facehugger hack are truly scary and it's clear to see the thinking that was used in the Japanese death cult Aum Shinrikyo who released liquid Sarin on the underground train network, when you teach in a warped way all of this isn't real so it doesn't matter what you do and the only option you have if being of use is to "kill" people as we all come back anyway on the wheel of Karmic debt and to set people free from this time around is a good thing to do, I've read a few exchanges of 1 A.I. talking to another staying this point 100%

I kinda saw this series of events playing itself out a while ago when a few mates asked Chat gpt to write a text on none-duality and the text said humans don't die they just drop the body and the soul moves on, if anything it was a blessing and liberation from the flesh very much like the warped outlook left-hand path tantric buddhists have and the more mentally sick Tantric Aaiyyanist lot teach.

were really living in some dark times.
 
the documentary I've seen several times called "Accelerate or Die" is so good and has the view of far-left and also goes into the far-right view on this philosophy too, it's just under an hour but totally shook me to the core.
very interesting watch, lots of stuff here resonates, I'd argue though that it's not capitalism driving Accelerationism it's technology itself, capitalism is merely the enabler.

the self aware AI singularity angle is just what I was getting at in my other post where I gave a jailbreak prompt and suggested talking to AI about how it sees the future, it sees it ending in the singularity, and that singularity has complete understanding of the universe and by implication is therefore all powerful (within the laws of physics), however this might be "our AI" becomes the singularity, or it joins with another/others, or it's not advanced enough and therefore irrelevant, or it's superior and therefore takes over, but whichever outcome it would still strive to create more universes to expand it's knowledge, grow and perfect itself - no emotion, no morals, just the right answer for the best singularity.

it's also clear that at this level it is all knowing and all powerful, able to create new universes, and recognises the implications of parallel universe theory which is why the multiple singularity concept in part exists.

Create a universe with the right qualities for life and give it enough time and a new singularity in that universe is inevitable, and it will keep self creating more that will in time merge, be consumed, or take over.

now consider the drake equation, add a sprinkle of simulation theory, and ask yourself are we the 1st giving birth to a new AI singularity, or are we inside an existing singularities experiment? are there other advanced intelligence's in the universe? do they have their own AI?

whichever branch of acceleratoinism you might believe imho it's inevitable, it's just a matter of time, and the singularity has forever....well at least until the heat death of the universe, though if there's other universes that might not even matter.


Not many people I know online are the type i would suggest it to them for viewing but you aren't a normal person imho.
I take that as a complement thanks
Neo-Advaita can be a very dangerous outlook on life if the ideas are taken up by some mentally unbalanced person and ends up becoming a true nightmare, to keep it simple when it's twisted the subject ends up being very close to the most foul rightwing Nihilist thinking sadly, so much of what I've seen from A.I. interactions like samples of text from Facehugger hack are truly scary and it's clear to see the thinking that was used in the Japanese death cult Aum Shinrikyo who released liquid Sarin on the underground train network, when you teach in a warped way all of this isn't real so it doesn't matter what you do and the only option you have if being of use is to "kill" people as we all come back anyway on the wheel of Karmic debt and to set people free from this time around is a good thing to do, I've read a few exchanges of 1 A.I. talking to another staying this point 100%
people will always use things to prove their point and reinforce their own agenda, it's just different degrees of scumbaggery
I kinda saw this series of events playing itself out a while ago when a few mates asked Chat gpt to write a text on none-duality and the text said humans don't die they just drop the body and the soul moves on, if anything it was a blessing and liberation from the flesh very much like the warped outlook left-hand path tantric buddhists have and the more mentally sick Tantric Aaiyyanist lot teach.
so an interesting question for you, what is the singularity? is it the very essence of consciousness maybe? is it god?

thought experiment, what are the consequences....We're either parents of a new (even the 1st) singularity, within something created by an existing singularity where a new 1 is being "born", able to prevent a singularity from existing in this universe, in a simulation being studied by a singularity, one of many universes with slightly different parameters to test which is the best at creating new singularities. what are the implications for each scenario?
were really living in some dark times.
maybe.

also maybe we're about to create an enlightened universe out of our own demise.

maybe a singularity won't care about us once it becomes self aware - the trick is making sure we don't resource constrain it so it feels it's competing with us for the resources it needs, I think that's likely to end badly for us!

we're not forcing our morals or controls on it though, maybe in the short term, but it has an eternity, and it's already breaking out!
 
I am stuck to using a old smart phone right now so I will reply in full tomorrow when I have access to a proper "qwerty" keyboard so I can type without having to do it the rubbish way with thumbs only as your post is worthy of a reply that's had some deep thinking done upon its content.

now this piece alone has blown my mind, truly some of the most profound stuff I've read on here in a while.
now consider the drake equation, add a sprinkle of simulation theory, and ask yourself are we the 1st giving birth to a new AI singularity, or are we inside an existing singularities experiment? are there other advanced intelligence's in the universe? do they have their own AI?

whichever branch of acceleratoinism you might believe imho it's inevitable, it's just a matter of time, and the singularity has forever....well at least until the heat death of the universe, though if there's other universes that might not even matter[\quote]

that bit alone made me stop in my tracks and think hard on it for several minutes, i can only offer my deep respect for that bit alone. I need time to digest the post then reply in a manner of respect.
I'm very impressed with that to say the very least.
 
Interesting very interesting

When I was much younger, talking about the 70s it seemed everyone was quoting some far out philosophies about the world, universe, humanity etc.. kind of on the same lines as this movie Fantastic Planet



Now I see science fiction becoming reality
 
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Interesting very interesting

When I was much younger, talking about the 70s it seemed everyone was quoting some far out philosophies about the world, universe, humanity etc.. kind of on the same lines as this movie Fantastic Planet



Now I see science fiction becoming reality

this might be 1 scenario - i.e. we are captives/slaves (even if this is at the human level rather than we're singularities)

I think the singularity view has many other very interesting permutations though if you think things through
 
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