Esoteric A guide to ego death and how to achieve it

[arrall]

I knew it - another "Psychedelic master" who follows you around for 12 months after you disagree with him about acid...remember, if we gave everyone acid the world would be a wonderful place wouldn't it..

Petty arguments -especially those that are (at least at first glance) pointless- have no place in PD. Please keep any personal issues you may have with each other off of here.

 

[arrall]

This technique seems very calming and interesting when attempted sober. Can't wait to try it next time I take LSD. Thanks for sharing, @TripSitterNZ!

 

[Chris Timothy]

I enjoyed the Maok vid, @TripSitterNZ, I played it twice. That's coming from someone who's not the biggest fan of floaty ambient music, and tends to be turned off by vocal music. It was a properly enchanting experience, thanks for sharing.

 

[Deleted member 521610]

This is still hands down the best thing I have ever bought into the universe. A true fire method to transcend your ego and merge into infinite consciouness

 

[negrogesic]

his music is 100% a good trip. Soon as i put it on all the anxiety and come up roughness disappeared and it was just intense peace. His improv is insane he plays music from a open heart focusing on deep release. so far i have been able to tap into a deeper peace in daily life when i sleep its just a bliss of white light. I hope it stays the same. I will try this technique with shrooms in the future aswell.

I would lose my shit if i heard that stuff while on a large dose of a psychedelic. A driving force being because a) such a thing is foreign to me and b) i cant ignore music as background sounds

What's funny is that the other day i was reading an FXE trip report (because ive had some difficult experiences with it) and in the trip report they said:

T0:30- I decide to immerse myself. I plug in my headphones, close my eyes and lie down on my couch. I surrender myself to the compound. I queue up Burial’s seminal LP “Untrue”. The internal hole space of this compound is vast, it is dark, it is punctuated with streamers of light and trails of color.

So i thought, hmmmm i wonder what that sounds like, and here it is:



And i thought, maybe this is why i dont like FXE, because that is about the last thing would want to pass through my eyes while on 170mg of FXE (which i imagine is very disorienting).

The underlying driver of this is perhaps why i have a difficult time with psychedelics in general.

 

[arrall]

maybe this is why i dont like FXE, because that is about the last thing would want to pass through my eyes while on 170mg of FXE (which i imagine is very disorienting).

That honestly sounds like pretty solid disso trip music to me.

But I listened to a metal album while on a low dose of ketamine last week.

 

[Deleted member 521610]

this should be stickied. Greatest method to transcend to the highest realms

 

[Shinji Ikari]

I'll try this next time I trip. Never transcended before could be fun.

 

[emkee_reinvented]

my guide to achieving ego death without the use of 5-meo dmt

There is a simple way for ego death. Not one i will advise, just having experienced it.

Pain, simple extreme physical pain. A old skool superfast uncooled drill in your not aneastised teeth.
With the 'i make money for filling cavity s, and loose it if i use aneastehics' attitude.
To the nerve, and does fuck you what pain shut up.

So after it continued, 6/ 7/ 8 years old i had my first true meditive state. Ego death achieved by undurable pain.
Namaste as before it started it was hell. Thank you mind.

Ps why do you want to experience it by use of drugs,
ain t meditation not a somewhat simpler cleaner and certainly more harm reductive way.
Its certainly smpler then with trying heroic doses of LSD, and afterwards not 16 hours effects.
You are back. DMT i never taken so i get that short almost guarateed ego death thing.

But LSD is not DMT, i might have a recreative trip on 500mcg 1p-LSD, who knows.
But be to buzzed to remember really.
225 mcg allready distorts the mem so much, ego death meditate. wanna trip take LSD.
Got some DMT your not using, sent it to me [joking, can extract my own when time come]

 

[Opana313]

My ears are still ringing and I feel generally dizzy nearly 3 days after taking 5 x 105 ug california needlepoint blotters. I’ve also experienced night terrors 2 nights following. Feeling paralysed in bed while something horrible approaches. However, there’s an even chance that results from the seroquel I took at the end of my trip or the agomelatine + seroquel I took to sleep both those subsequent nights.

As for ego dissolution I’ve been thinking of it as the collapse of Cartesian dualism in your mind. The sense that you are the subject (the thing capable of knowing and experiencing) and that everything and everyone is is an object that your subjectivity manifests for your appraisal and understanding. When that collapses the difference between “I” as a comprehending subject and “that” as a comprehensible object evaporates and there is just a unified sense of oneness. But like @TripSitterNZ says, the ego, or the subjective knowing “I” never really dies because it returns capable of recalling the experience of seemingly no longer having barriers between it and everything else that it originally perceived as being separate to itself.

The closest I have come with this is where I lose any any sense of distinction between myself and music. I feel the music throughout my whole body and my body seems to become the music in an ecstatic way. I’m no longer hearing it but resonating with it as part of it. At that time I have no sense of my physical being whatsover. Usually I am lying in bed unable to feel my body except as a wave or ongoing explosion of ecstasy defined by the music. This sometimes comes with a collapse in time sense with real elapsed time only being maybe 10 or 15 minutes but perceived time being almost infinite. Generally electronic music has worked best for this but it has not had to be psytrance. The most incredible transcendental experience I had was listening to Morcheeba. Usually it’s got to be music I already feel an emotional affinity with. Not something completely new. So I like to rehearse music for a trip before I take the trip. So it’s imprinted on my mind already.

This is the best way I can describe my "ego loss" on my first quarter ounce mushroom dose. I fasted and everything..mostly for peak visuals, I was not seeking ego death but yes once the visuals took over everything, I had no choice but to crawl into bed and curl up into a ball. While extreme visuals continue, I noticed that even with my eyes open or shut they were the same vibrant hallucinations..then my mind tried to take over only to spiral certain thoughts or situations and then bam..I surrendered to myself or the drug whatever and I realized fast the only thing that made sense to me in this state was that I was man. With a cock and balls and that I was alive but lost all sense of who I was or my character. No name, no shame, no pain. No more paranoid delusional thoughts just I and the experience in that moment...I do not know how long this lasted but I came to when the sun began to rise and the comedown had the most warm afterglow filled with love peace and understanding of the universe. Just thought I'd add my experience..

 

[itsKam]

**Hello,** (i used ai to make this reply more understandable and organized)

I’ve been reading here, on forums, and in comments about this topic. First, I want to thank you for the useful and well-summarized insights you’ve shared. I’m writing this as I explore *Maok* music for the first time.

Lately, I’ve been diving into various resources (AI, videos, guides, Reddit discussions, and I almost even bought a course—though some Redditors advised me against it). I’ve also posted here for guidance because I’m preparing for my first LSD trip.

Here are my questions:

1. **Dosage and Goals**
- Should I go for 2.5 mg as a first-timer to achieve ego death and nondualism?

2. **Setting and Solo Trip**
- Do you think I should take the trip alone? I feel relatively courageous but wonder if being alone could help avoid potential disturbances.

3. **Focus and Intentions**
- Should I focus on one specific goal during the trip (e.g., ego death), or can I explore multiple themes, like clarity on life goals, developing discipline, and overcoming bad moods or depressive thoughts?
- Do I need to consciously revisit my childhood dreams and seek ways to achieve them as a way to overcome my anxiety?
- Should I actively think about the overwhelming things and self-blame I carry to process and release them, or is it better to approach the trip with a clearer, calmer mind?

4. **Preparation and Activities**
- Do I need to watch specific movies, listen to other types of music, or engage in activities beyond meditation and relaxation?

5. **Mindset and Overthinking**
- Am I overthinking this? Some people say LSD gives you what you need, not what you want, and that I should just let go. Others recommend setting clear goals to guide the experience. What’s the right balance?

6. **Maximizing the Experience**
- How can I ensure I get the most out of my first trip, knowing that first experiences are unique?
- Should I write down specific goals beforehand or simply let go and trust the process?

7. **General Advice**
- I’m exploring the best way to maximize LSD’s potential—not just through personal stories but from an objective standpoint, drawing from resources like research studies, guides, and expert opinions.
- Back in my ecstasy days, I had an idea called "The 40 One Theory," involving 40 specialists from diverse fields (visual arts, psychology, sociology, medicine, sound design, etc.) to create the ultimate environment for a trip. Is this overly perfectionist or a valid approach?

Thank you for any advice or guidance you can share.

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Update:
### **Brief Answers Based on Your Goals and Perspectives:** (by ChatGPT)

1. **Dosage**: For a first-timer, 2.5 mg (250 µg) is a very high dose. Beginners usually start with 100-150 µg to test their sensitivity and avoid overwhelming experiences. Ego death can still happen at lower doses.

2. **Solo Trip**: Being alone can help avoid disturbances, but having a trusted sitter nearby is safer, especially if it’s your first time.

3. **Intentions**: It’s better to focus on one or two key intentions. Revisiting childhood dreams and addressing self-blame can be powerful, but try to approach them with curiosity, not pressure. Let the trip naturally guide you rather than forcing specific outcomes.

4. **Preparation**: Music, movies, or guided meditations can enhance the experience. Choose uplifting, introspective content beforehand. Avoid overstimulation or overly complex inputs.

5. **Mindset**: Overthinking can create resistance. Trust the process but remain mindful of your intentions. Writing them down can help ground you before the trip.

6. **Maximizing the Experience**: First trips are unique but don’t try to control everything. A balance between structure (e.g., setting goals) and surrendering to the experience often works best.

7. **General Advice**: Your "40 One Theory" is fascinating but may not be practical for a first trip. Focus on simplicity and your immediate environment for now.

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1. Appropriate dosages and their effects.
2. Ideal settings for first-time users.
3. The neuroscience and psychology of revisiting childhood and processing emotional baggage.
4. The impact of music, visuals, and creative activities on psychedelic experiences.
5. Expert advice on setting goals and achieving ego death.
6. Evidence-based techniques for integrating insights post-trip.

 

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