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A good MDMA alternative for clubbing?

*~Chibimunki~* said:
What does that mean??? :\
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It means its toxic to your heart. Most drugs are neurotoxic (toxic to the brain, like meth) or toxic to your liver (I forget the proper word), like alcohol. Few are directly as carditoxic as cocaine.

As VelocideX says, its too expensive and just doesn't have that "clubbing" feel to me, just a "more" feel to it, which isn't what I'd want clubbing. I'd prefer to lose myself in the music on the dancefloor for hours rather than every 20~40 minutes have to go to the toilets and do another line in a cubicle :\

2ci is a good alternative in my experience. Give a lot of the same effects, though slightly different obviously, and lasts longer. Mushrooms I'd consider are too unpredictable. When I'm at home listening to music on them it can be an awesome feeling but I get edgy when around a lot of people so not good for a packed club.
tribal EffEct said:
Learn a dance, and go battle it out in some circles.
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You'd never get that happening in trance clubs in the UK. Just reminds me "Save The Last Dance"'s credits sequence.
 
I seem to have the same problem or almost... Ive been going to this same after-hours club for the past year or so and i do roll every weekend (Unless Im working).I have met alot of friends there that i even hang out with outside of there and the music is a blast there, i enjoy it every time :) I've been trying to quit this routine for a while but i can not seem to be able to kick it. Sure , I could go hang with some other friends who are not into that sort of thing (or even clubbing they've stopped doing that!!) but every time i chose to skip a week and hang with them i find it.. well... boring. To make a long story short, I am left with these three choices for Friday nights.

1. stay home and do nothing.

2. Go hang out with other friends and be bored.

3. Go to the after-hours club and have a blast with a few other friends.

I'll take a combo #3 please.
 
alexs said:
I seem to have the same problem or almost... Ive been going to this same after-hours club for the past year or so and i do roll every weekend (Unless Im working).I have met alot of friends there that i even hang out with outside of there and the music is a blast there, i enjoy it every time :) I've been trying to quit this routine for a while but i can not seem to be able to kick it. Sure , I could go hang with some other friends who are not into that sort of thing (or even clubbing they've stopped doing that!!) but every time i chose to skip a week and hang with them i find it.. well... boring. To make a long story short, I am left with these three choices for Friday nights.

1. stay home and do nothing.

2. Go hang out with other friends and be bored.

3. Go to the after-hours club and have a blast with a few other friends.

I'll take a combo #3 please.
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When things start to get boring and you can't stop thinking about going out and rolling you know it's a good idea to cut back. You'll realise most of these people are only your 'druggie' friends to put it bluntly.

Not all tracks sound awesome when I'm off my head. I've been to a rave and Mauro Picotto was DJing and frankly, he didn't impress me with his track selection and my roll wasn't the best because I couldn't get into the music, even though I really like his tracks. Maybe he was out to please another audience, I dunno. But no amount of mdma was going to make me like it.

I can enjoy music as much sober as when I'm rolling, it's that the whole atmosphere and how you percieve things is different while on xtc that makes it that much better. Just pretend your on x and run around hugging people and stuff, you'll feel like your on x because it'll bring back some of those feelings.
 
AlphaNumeric said:
It means its toxic to your heart. Most drugs are neurotoxic (toxic to the brain, like meth) or toxic to your liver (I forget the proper word), like alcohol. Few are directly as carditoxic as cocaine.
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Hepatoxicity
 
If you want to trip out than take shrooms, it is fun just make sure you have a few people with you not tripping.

But if you want the dance and euporia do 2 or three lines of coke then have some drinks and repeat as neccesary.
 
I definitely would recommend GHB
I use it in clubs/raves when I don't do E, even if i do E, I still do GHB, GHB is really nice, no hangover, no tollerance, cheap and not too bad.
 
E-tard = Someone who loves rolling quite frequently...and everything associated with rolling, such as lightshows, vicks inhalers and...what was I saying??? :)

And I know exactly what you mean too...we have tons of good lineups here in dallas every weekend. I've just learned to pick and choose. A lot of them come back every few months anyway.
 
tribal EffEct said:
Also, don't try to trick yourself into believing you like to club. You don't, you like the drugs mainly, as of right now. There's nothing wrong with that as I have a ton of friends who won't go out without E. But you have to admit that shit to yourself first, and try to find some legit alternative (not just other drugs) if you want to club without the pills. And you might as well sack up right now and understand that nothing you take will be the same as E in your current condition. Find reasons to love the club/rave experience without the pills, and soon enough you will find yourself having as much fun without the stuff. I have. Hell, some of my most favorite raves were done completely sober (not even alcohol for 5+ hours!).

Enjoy =D
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If I wanted to be psycho-analysed I would have asked.

I can assure you that I love clubbing, otherwise I would not do pills in clubs.

I love clubbing. I love drugs. Being on drugs is better than being sober. Therefore being fucked in a club is better than not.

This really isn't a hard concept to understand. If being sober is so great, then why do you save pills for "special" occasions?



The majority of this thread has involved telling me what I do/don't think and what I should/shouldn't do. I couldn't really give a fuck, but drug suggestions would be more apt. Thanks.
 
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emotionless said:
IMO, there is... Yes, music sounds great on XTC, and yes, you feel great on XTC... But actually, that is the reason why so many people have cravings for more and more XTC. They wanna keep those great feelings and they want their rolls to last longer. So they take more and more XTC. When they are sober, they often think about their high on XTC, which makes them think about their next roll and how they're gonna have great time... and they can't wait for a weekend so they can roll..... This brings up the psychological dependance factor, which is a whole another story.

Keep in mind that XTC is a synthetic drug, which means it was made artificially with artificial ingredients by a man. It is not something your body should experience on a regular basis...

Don't get me wrong, XTC is a great toy, but moderation is the ONLY successful way to go here.
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Righto then....

Anyway, back to the point. I claimed that there is nothing wrong with prefering music on MDMA to being sober. Audio is completely enhanced on MDMA. How can you NOT prefer it? This has nothing to do with that paragraph of breeze you have just typed.

I am an adult, and I will make my own decisions thank you very much.
 
Well on Coke you'll be spending about as much as X!

$20 pill OR a $20 of coke will both last about 3hrs!

The only prob is having to bump up every 30mins but your gonna be drinking anyway and you'll have to go....it's never been a problem for me!
 
Tranced said:

The majority of this thread has involved telling me what I do/don't think and what I should/shouldn't do. I couldn't really give a fuck, but drug suggestions would be more apt. Thanks.
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I have a drug suggestion for you. It sounds like you won't find anything that's going to be as good to you as MDMA. If you're going clubbing every couple of weeks, be sure to take your 5-htp. The 5-htp will keep your brain as healthy as it can for those of us who tend to roll more than on "special occasions."
 
II Callum II said:
Well on Coke you'll be spending about as much as X!

$20 pill OR a $20 of coke will both last about 3hrs!
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A quick click on Tranced's profile tells you he/she is in Newcastle, UK so for 20 quid he/she'd be getting 10 or more pills, so the "It costs the same as coke" argument goes out the window :\
 
and? Tranced, why couldnt you stop doing meth? its not as addictive as you think, until you start doing it every weekend, maybe keep it to once a month or somthing, and never keep a schedule, just as an alternative. trust me, ive done meth heaps and its nowhere near as great as MDMA soooo i never look forward to it, unlike looking forward to the next roll at the next big event.
 
AlphaNumeric said:
A quick click on Tranced's profile tells you he/she is in Newcastle, UK so for 20 quid he/she'd be getting 10 or more pills, so the "It costs the same as coke" argument goes out the window :\
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Exactly mate, I can get pills for less than a pound each if I buy a relativley large amount. Coke is £40 a gram and it's only you're average coke. Pills work out a LOT cheaper.

It doesn't last long enough unless you have loads which means more than one gram.
Can't be arsed with coke.
 
crappybones said:
and? Tranced, why couldnt you stop doing meth? its not as addictive as you think, until you start doing it every weekend, maybe keep it to once a month or somthing, and never keep a schedule, just as an alternative. trust me, ive done meth heaps and its nowhere near as great as MDMA soooo i never look forward to it, unlike looking forward to the next roll at the next big event.
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No one has the intention of getting addicted to a drug when they do.

I can't get it anyway and the prospect of staying up so long doesn't appeal to me at all, especially considering I'm in full time work.
 
Tranced said:
Exactly mate, I can get pills for less than a pound each if I buy a relativley large amount.
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That makes me cry. :(

I wish we had those prices!8o
 
I will not post prices in an attempt to make myself look superior. -VelocideX
 
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