Opioids 7oh and suboxone

[AlwaysHasBeen]

I have failed twice using suboxone to try quitting OPIA 7OH tablets. It just doesn’t seem to address the WD symptoms like you mentioned the anxiety for one. Does anyone have a better method using 8/2 bupe tablets & other meds that would help? It’s so hard trying to taper anything in my world. I start with great intentions but…. I can’t afford this $100 a day habit. I would rather replace 7 with bupe & let my doc taper me off it reducing the strength. Thanks in advance ya’ll. I’ve learned a lot from this thread.

What I had to do was lock away my money and take 16 mg of bupe TWICE a day just to stay sane and get to work, still could not sleep at all because of the (what felt like fully body)RLS but was still able to function due to having an infinite amount of that dirty energy. The withdrawels are so different from other opiates, there is the extreme RLS, the extreme bordem/lack of motivation but otherwise you are almost normal, there is no extreme cramps and puking everywhere shitting all over the place and freezing hot every 2 seconds just minor little goosebumps and no sleep with way too much dirty energy. Lasted for 3 days for me before sleeping and that was with taking 16 mg of bupe TWICE a day. Also anxiety and shaky but not too crazy like alcohol or benzo withdrawel.

Did you make it through?

 

[CfZrx]

What I had to do was lock away my money and take 16 mg of bupe TWICE a day just to stay sane and get to work, still could not sleep at all because of the (what felt like fully body)RLS but was still able to function due to having an infinite amount of that dirty energy. The withdrawels are so different from other opiates, there is the extreme RLS, the extreme bordem/lack of motivation but otherwise you are almost normal, there is no extreme cramps and puking everywhere shitting all over the place and freezing hot every 2 seconds just minor little goosebumps and no sleep with way too much dirty energy. Lasted for 3 days for me before sleeping and that was with taking 16 mg of bupe TWICE a day. Also anxiety and shaky but not too crazy like alcohol or benzo withdrawel.

You guys are making 7oH sound like pure misery. I sure hope the high is amazing, like heroin times a thousand or something!

 

[AlwaysHasBeen]

You guys are making 7oH sound like pure misery. I sure hope the high is amazing, like heroin times a thousand or something!

It CAN be, it can take you to the days when you first tried Heroin or OXY's, or whatever, that first high where everything is positive, everything is warm, you have this insane drive to do the things you have ignored... and you actually do them.... The problem is just like with it all, it is very fleeting and leads to chasing that high which will never come again without extreme abstinance.

I want to add, it can do that to someo0ne who has been depandent on Suboxone for over a decade, let alone others whom have not. You can see the pull, clearly, to get back to where you used to be a long time ago, it does bring that back, for a tiny amount of time.

My spelling is terible, my articulating is not in full, it is the best I can do going through kicking the OH even after kicking every other "harder" drug times a thousand. WIthdrawel wil always be personal to the person and even if they say "it is not AS BAD as I had before" In the moment it mine as well be as bad as we forget just how bad it can get and this is why we repeat and end back in the same boat.

 

[CfZrx]

Gosh, now it sounds great! lol. I looked at the online vendors and they all seemed bunk, so I dropped the idea. I know someone w/ pain issues who might like it though once a month. Maybe I'll buy some before it goes away legally.

 

[AlwaysHasBeen]

Gosh, now it sounds great! lol. I looked at the online vendors and they all seemed bunk, so I dropped the idea. I know someone w/ pain issues who might like it though once a month. Maybe I'll buy some before it goes away legally.

If you are on subs, hit the 7stax 100 mg 5 per pack tabs, you will be shocked that you can feel that way again after all this time. Actually, don't! It is just the same shit over and over, you lose the high after day 3 and then it is just not being sick until ultimately the day comes where YOU HAVE TO be sick and ride it out, that day ALWAYS comes.

 

[bratchny]

I was just reading someone saying they put themselves into precipitated wd taking Suboxone to come off of 7-oh. anyone done this? also 7-oh and methadone?

 

[CfZrx]

If you are on subs, hit the 7stax 100 mg 5 per pack tabs, you will be shocked that you can feel that way again after all this time. Actually, don't! It is just the same shit over and over, you lose the high after day 3 and then it is just not being sick until ultimately the day comes where YOU HAVE TO be sick and ride it out, that day ALWAYS comes.

looks pretty expensive! I guess I will just forget this pandoras box before ever opening it. Thanks!

 

[Syntherize]

I just stumbled in here to share my cat profile pic mostly, but it is possible to push through high doses of buprenorphine, even with straight heroin, but you’ll need a lot (~100-300mg IV depending on your tolerance to opioids).

 

[AlwaysHasBeen]

I just stumbled in here to share my cat profile pic mostly, but it is possible to push through high doses of buprenorphine, even with straight heroin, but you’ll need a lot (~100-300mg IV depending on your tolerance to opioids).

Yea, just don;t dose the next day or if frisky, just go for it you can break through bupe eaisly if you wait an hour or two after your last does of bupe.

You WILL feel it but not the full effects but you will feel that urge to do things and enjoy hobbies again as long as you go for it.

 

[AlwaysHasBeen]

I was just reading someone saying they put themselves into precipitated wd taking Suboxone to come off of 7-oh. anyone done this? also 7-oh and methadone?

It will 100% happen but you will ignore all the syptoms like throwing up, you will get chills mild, you will et that fucked up head space that you just did something wrong and now th world is evil, you WILL get the worst RLS of your fucking LIFE trust me!!!!! I even tried 60 MG of suboxone to break through and alls it did was land me with RLS for 15 straight hours, extreme RLS, the worst you ever imagine where I looked like a car salesman dummy flopping around, it was fucking TERRIBLE!

 

[PseudoNoob]

I am posting because, as my handle indicates, I am an extreme noob. But I know I need help. Here’s my situation. I discovered 7OH about two years ago here in Vegas (where I live). Not too long after that, Kama started producing Pseudoindoxyl + 7OH tablets. Boy was I having fun when I first discovered those. Then, all of a sudden, the usual dosage I was taking stopped being effective. I still wanted to have fun. So, I stepped up my dosage and started spending more money. Fast forward to today… I am somewhere between 1000 and 2000 mg a day, which is the equivalent of almost $100/day habit when you buy that stuff from Vape stores. Now… how do I know it’s a habit? Well, about two weeks ago I tried to quit, cold turkey, because $100 is way too much money to be blowing. But, guess how it turned out? At about the 24 hour mark of not taking any tablets, the shit really hit the fan. Leading up to that, I wrote off the “muscle jerks”. I thought, “well that’s new”, having never experienced that before. But at, like hour 28, I was hyperventilating, sweating profusely, my stomach was super tight - cramping, even - and I could not stop dry heaving. I seriously was scared I was going to die. I nearly had my son drive me to the ER. Thank God a friend who has much more experienced with this sort of thing finally convinced me to bite the bullet and just go buy more tablets. BUT, she made an appointment for me at a Suboxone clinic. And today was my first day on the films. As I write this, I am now again at hour 28 of no tablets, but guess what? None of that other stuff is happening, although I can feel those WD symptoms “trying to break through”. I’m worried that the Suboxone is going to wear off and I will be right back where I was a couple of weeks ago, feeling like I’m going to die. I’m especially worried, after reading some very early posts in this thread, that Suboxone does not actually block Pseudo or 7OH. Is that true?

Please help! I just want to get off this stuff and stop spending $100 bucks a day!