7oh and seizures???

[Kurt Cobain]

Hey all so last night I ended up having a seizure, I'm not prone to them, never had one and I scared the shit out girlfriend. I had Lyrica in my system and 7oh and I'm wondering if any of yall ever had seizure like symptoms or full blown seizures from 7oh. It could be dirty powder and tablets with left over solvents but idk. I still can't walk great, my legs are killing me, my head is killing me, I'm having a very hard time thinking straight and just all around fucked up. I'm also on Concerta 56mg which does make my body jittery but nothing like that. I asked my doctor to switch me to Adderall which doesn't make me jittery at all but he said there's a shortage but according to my gf whose a pharmacist where I'd get my script filled there's no shortage except for Vyvanse sometimes she also said that his office has damn near 50 people on Adderall so I think he just doesn't wanna attract more attention for over prescribing. Ugh the fucking opioid epidemic really fucked shit up

 

[cnnka]

There’s a lot of reports on internet of kratom causing seizures and I had some symptoms without ever having a history of seizures , with 7-OH didn’t have any symptoms or anything like that . But be careful and stay safe if kratom can cause it then most certainly 7-OH can. How much did you take ?

 

[Kurt Cobain]

There’s a lot of reports on internet of kratom causing seizures and I had some symptoms without ever having a history of seizures , with 7-OH didn’t have any symptoms or anything like that . But be careful and stay safe if kratom can cause it then most certainly 7-OH can. How much did you take ?

I was in withdraw from 7oh is the funny thing but when I was doing it i was at a gram a day if not more. I never had a history of seizures either

 

[WellTram]

Yes, and Lyrica (used for seizures and neuropatic pain) Is actually doing the opposite if used with kratom in any form or with tramadol.

Seizures can be fatal, don't use it together if u won't add anticonvulsants like benzodiazepines ( risk of another addiction and casual sedative + another sedative ( lyrica ) + opioid = potential for cardiovascular issues and also for stopping u breathing)
or levetiracetam ( this works for me doesn't have to work for you. )

I would not combine them - sometimes the simplest move is right.

 

[cnnka]

Yes, and Lyrica (used for seizures and neuropatic pain) Is actually doing the opposite if used with kratom in any form or with tramadol.

Seizures can be fatal, don't use it together if u won't add anticonvulsants like benzodiazepines ( risk of another addiction and casual sedative + another sedative ( lyrica ) + opioid = potential for cardiovascular issues and also for stopping u breathing)
or levetiracetam ( this works for me doesn't have to work for you. )

I would not combine them - sometimes the simplest move is right.

How comes that ? I use Xanax when on tarmadol for extra safety lol and on 7-OH for extra pleasure

 

[emkee_reinvented]

How comes that ? I use Xanax when on tarmadol for extra safety lol and on 7-OH for extra pleasure

Pregabalin is add-on when indicated for epilepsy so coupled with Valproic Acid,
stopping a seizure needs a Benzo.
And as Lyrica can even cause em i read, not a safety net.
Btw neither is Levetiracetam,i got seizures on it. 3 maybe 5
Till i finally saw the med did shit and asked why my neurologist.
Why not choose the first line treatment Valproic Acid. ... Silence.

Valproic acid did prevent em.

All know coincides, took Lyrica and Kratom and dextro-Amphetamine 1.5 year+.
No troubles/ seizure s. It took me 2 year s insomnia to get one.
I think normally after 6 month s most get one.

 

[Deleted member 585202]

I was in withdraw from 7oh is the funny thing but when I was doing it i was at a gram a day if not more. I never had a history of seizures either

I've seen cats have seizures from fentanyl withdrawals in detox. Seizures from opioid withdrawal are quite rare, but not unheard of.

There have also been people on this forum who have reported seizures from taking kratom, but they occurred when taking it, not in withdrawal.

In any case, this is unusual enough that you really should go get checked out by a doctor. Seizures are very serious. You need to go to the hospital if it happens again.

 

[WellTram]

I never had seizure while on levetiracetam, it absolutely blocked tramadol or an absence of benzodiazepines to cause them but this is ONLY my case, i don't know why but levetiracetam worked and works great for me, but most of other people need to use it in combination with valproic acid.
But i see less people getting valproic or levetiracetam and getting prescribed carbamazepine...Which i can't use because absolutely diminish analgetic effects of tramadol due to most of it being metabolized through cyp3a4 and with tramadol u want more cyp2d6 and not cyp3a4 which carbamazepine induces.

 

[Kurt Cobain]

I've seen cats have seizures from fentanyl withdrawals in detox. Seizures from opioid withdrawal are quite rare, but not unheard of.

There have also been people on this forum who have reported seizures from taking kratom, but they occurred when taking it, not in withdrawal.

In any case, this is unusual enough that you really should go get checked out by a doctor. Seizures are very serious. You need to go to the hospital if it happens again.

I'm still taking kratom just not 7oh. I've been on and off from kratom for years so it's hard to see it as that. I mean I got back on my ritalin/Concerta bc the doc wouldn't put me on Adderall due to a shortage even tho I gave him the reference from my old doc but anyway other than that it was just Lyrica and kratom to help get off of 7oh.i don't feel right at all yall it's been 2-3 days and I been feeling like I'm. Gonna have another one all day at work as I just came back.

 

[Kurt Cobain]

I've seen cats have seizures from fentanyl withdrawals in detox. Seizures from opioid withdrawal are quite rare, but not unheard of.

There have also been people on this forum who have reported seizures from taking kratom, but they occurred when taking it, not in withdrawal.

In any case, this is unusual enough that you really should go get checked out by a doctor. Seizures are very serious. You need to go to the hospital if it happens again.

If I go to the hospital I'm fucked, not only me but my girl as well. I'm the main bread winner. I can't drive if seizure history is on my record

 

[Kurt Cobain]

If I go to the hospital I'm fucked, not only me but my girl as well. I'm the main bread winner. I can't drive if seizure history is on my record

They will also take my fucking medicine away which I know isint causing it and I'm useless without some sort of treatment for my ADHD

 

[Kurt Cobain]

All I took that day was my Concerta around mid day, some Lyrica for the wd, kratom as my usual dosage and 3 benadryl later that night and I was all good until 3am where I was just chilling with my girl on the couch and I guess I started seizing for a couple minutes and I wouldn't of even believed her if it weren't for the marks all over my legs from hitting them and the drool on my chest. It's been days and I still feel like fucking shit. I also smoke weed I forgot to add that. I had fucking Lyrica in my system tho is it not a damn antkconvulsant

 

[Kurt Cobain]

Yes, and Lyrica (used for seizures and neuropatic pain) Is actually doing the opposite if used with kratom in any form or with tramadol.

Seizures can be fatal, don't use it together if u won't add anticonvulsants like benzodiazepines ( risk of another addiction and casual sedative + another sedative ( lyrica ) + opioid = potential for cardiovascular issues and also for stopping u breathing)
or levetiracetam ( this works for me doesn't have to work for you. )

I would not combine them - sometimes the simplest move is right.

So Lyrica in combination with kratom... Or potentially methylphenidate can cause siezures????

 

[Kurt Cobain]

So Lyrica in combination with kratom... Or potentially methylphenidate can cause siezures????

But gabapentin has always been fine in combo with me so why not Lyrica?

 

[WellTram]

But gabapentin has always been fine in combo with me so why not Lyrica?

I don't know, gabapentin probably doesn't do something in the affinity as pregabaline. But from my experience gabapentin was ok too, Lyrica without addition of my antiseizure med or benzos was causing seizures

 

[Kurt Cobain]

I was using Lyrica all week for the wd and didn't have an issue, only thing that changed was I came back from vacation and I got my ADHD meds filled

 

[AngelsandFairiesarereal]

How you feeling? Any better?

 

[Kurt Cobain]

How you feeling? Any better?

It's been almost a week and I feel like shit, straight up would take withdrawals over this feeling. I haven't seized again not that I know of but I'm incredibly sick feeling especially in my stomach. My muscles just now finally started to relax but fuck. I'm guessing it was my Ritalin and mixing it with high dose Lyrica but I really don't know. It scared the living shit out of me like literally couldnt shit for days lol and I still can't eat, want to feel normal again

 

[Kurt Cobain]

I don't know, gabapentin probably doesn't do something in the affinity as pregabaline. But from my experience gabapentin was ok too, Lyrica without addition of my antiseizure med or benzos was causing seizures

You said Lyrica was causing you seizures? I'm not big into gaba drugs only use em for wd from opiates but I was familiar enough with Lyrica didn't know it could actually give seizures. I have a feeling my methylphenidate played a role as I was without for a couple weeks no biggie tho and then I came back from vacay and took double my dose ontop of Lyrica but again idk I'd rather not go to the doctor unless I have to but it's hard holding everything together rn especially work

 

[WellTram]

You said Lyrica was causing you seizures? I'm not big into gaba drugs only use em for wd from opiates but I was familiar enough with Lyrica didn't know it could actually give seizures. I have a feeling my methylphenidate played a role as I was without for a couple weeks no biggie tho and then I came back from vacay and took double my dose ontop of Lyrica but again idk I'd rather not go to the doctor unless I have to but it's hard holding everything together rn especially work

It can cause seizures by itself ( rarely ) and not so rarely if u combine it with seizure-treshold lowering substances which are stimulants as well as certain opioids and opiates ( information from my algeziologist - pain doctor and also from my psychiatrists ).