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75mg Vicoden + 585mg Darvon - Excellent very long lasting buzz

Lord Mandrake

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Primer: I have a high tolerance to opiates and also am a heroin addict on and off.

Anyway, it was a Saturday morning and I had 10 Vicodens(Hydrocodone) 7.5/350 APAP's and 9 Darvons(Propoxyphene) 65/350 APAP's.

Both are relatively weak synthetic opiods. I wasn't expecting much of a buzz since I've used IV heroin thousands of times. But my god, I was in for a very nice treat.

Mode of intake: So I took all the pills at once on an empty stomach with some grapefruit juice to help absorbtion.

T+ 15 minutes: I can feel something stirring, I'm thinking ahh well this will probably be the best it will get, I wasn't expecting a good buzz in the first place.

T+ 30 minutes: Strangely the mild effects are at a stable level there is no noticeable increase

T+ 45 minutes: Still no change, I thought that was really weird, I started to get bummed out a little cuz I wasn't gonna get any higher.

T+ 75 minutes: BAMM!!! it took a long ass time to kick in but my ass got kicked good. 1 hour and 15 minutes. This buzz was so wonderfull, I felt so positive about everything. I couldn't believe I got a buzz this hard from hydro's and darv's. The only difference between the heroin high and this synthetic opiod high is that I didn't feel the warm blanket effect. The high took on a dreamlike quality and more psychadelic then heroin. I was nodding in and out of dreams and suddenly finding myself talking out loud to a person that wasn't there. All the things I had done during the night before and the last couple days re-entered my thoughts like as if I was hypnotized. I wonder if it was the propoxyphene that made the high more trippy. My voice dropped down a tone and it was rough and scratchy when I talked. Itching was very minimal.

T+ 3 hours: Still going hard and strong. This is the reason I wrote this report is how long lasting the high was. I couldn't believe it. I was seeing doule constantly, very hard to walk sraight. I sit down and any time I close my eyes I see visions of things. One of the particular visions that was very interesting was a large skull in space and serpants with no skin, just like made up of spinal columns were flying around the skull and even they both came out of the skulls eye sockets at the same time. I could let myself get deeper into these visions but there was a risk of nodding off and falling asleep which I definately didn't want to do I was loving this high and wanted to experience all it had to offer. Still 3 hours into the high, there is no change, I'm still feeling so positive and have deep feelings of empathy for everyone. I was unable to type on my computer and unable write down the things that were flying through my head. I'm used to a heroin high where nothing is flying around in your brain, this high was much more of a brainstorm. In my hypothesis I can only attribute it to the Propoxyphene since I've eaten hydro's many times before and never got this stunted.

T+ 4 hours: STILL_GOING_STRONG. I can not believe this, a heroin high would have been gone in an hour, and here I am talking and talking and talking to my wonderful wife, having deep conversations and I was very easily grasping large concepts and able to explain them. SMOOTH, smooth is how it felt, compared to heroin, heroin always feels bumpy or jagged, this buzz was so pure and blissfull it actually took on an MDMA quality. I was definaely drying up. I had to keep drinking water every 20 minutes or so or my mouth would dry out completely.

T+ 4hours 45 minutes: I detect a very slight downturn of the effects at this point but it's nothing to bumm me out. My wife wanted to have sex and we did. It felt much warmer and loving then usual. She came and I tried and tried but I could not come, so I just didn't. I could believe that. Never happened before, even on smack. It felt like my entire body had a shot of Novacain. I was very numb and when I sat still I could feel waves of some sort going from my feet all the way to my head. Waves of numbness and then I would feel something like static electricity all over my torso area. Still I was high and it felt great even though the effects were very gradually wearing off.

T+ 6 hours: I am still high and very talkative and positive and I just can't believe it's lasting this long. Still need to keep hydrating myself or I dry up. I laid back on my couch intending to nod on and off into the dreamstates but instead I fell asleep. :| I don't remember any dreams I had when I was sleeping unfortunatly, I may not have had any.

T+ 8 hours: Wife wakes me up to watch a movie called The Conversation(GREAT movie BTW). At this point all major effects have worn off, my body is heavy again and coming back into gravity. There was very minor residual effects for the rest of the night but for all intents and purposes the high was gone. I was able to function perfectly well, sometimes forgetting that I even got high that day.

Conclusion: This is one hell of a combo and I intend to repeat it next weekend. The high felt synthetic but very smooth and empathetic. I could't believe it lasted 6 hours straight. Even though there are risks involved with the heart toxcicity of Propoxyphene I highly recommend it. It was a wonderful day, I felt like I was in heaven.
 
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About the APAP hurting my stomach - Not at all, I'm used to taking in large quantities of APAP. I don't do it often at all. I'm used to heroin. I do want to have a healthy liver. Also I forgot to mention that I took a tagamet (cimetidine) tablet about 4 hours before I took the pills so that reduced the acid pumps in my stomach and also helped absorbtion like the grapefruit juice.
 
Just for your info, hydrocodone isnt a "weak" opiate, it may not be the strongest but it sure isnt "weak". Now if you were talking about darvon, then yea, that is a very weak opiate if even an opiate at all...

You should of just taken the hydro because darvon doesnt potentiate opiates at all and really has no recreational value, especially if your a H user...
 
Supposedly, darvon is molecularly related to methadone, which may have been the result of the mix lasting so long. The davon could have given the hydro a "LAAM" effect and pushed up mix so it held it in it's peak phase for a highly extensive period. Whatever the case, I've always thought hydro was weak. My first time trying I took 2 7.5mg's I didn't feel anything at all and everybody else is spacing out. Hydro has never had such a profound opiatic effect on me as did that day I mixed it with the Pro. I don't know, I'm just an amatuer.
 
I'm telling you man, when I was younger the APAP didn't bother my stomach either, but now I cant take more than 500 mg of the stuff without being in pain for 4-6 hours. Take care of your liver! Peace!
 
propoxyphene makes me so faint and dizzy at doses above 300mg. i hate that crap, worse than codiene IMO
 
naton said:
worse than codiene IMO
oh absolutely. It's synthetic. But the problem with codein is that after taking it a while, it starts to burn the living shit out of your stomach lining. At least it did me.
 
Yeah man, I know what its like to need to get high, and I hate to nag ya, but it only takes 5 minutes to do a cwe on that hydro.

Just do it. Also, having a ritual before your drug consumption makes the whole thing more fun. and remember, doing youself a favor doesnt cost you anything.
 
Nice report.. one we dont see too often. Thats a solid dose of hydro no matter who you are as long as your opiate tolerance isnt outrageously high. Sounds like you were in a period where it wasn't "outrageous" :). Im pretty sure the hydro probably controlled about 90-95% of the effects you received, since Darvo is so absolutely shitty, but who knows.
 
Three words:
COLD. WATER. EXTRACTION.

7 grams of APAP is about half the lethal dose, you're waving your dick over the frying pan there man, one day you'll saute it.
Be safe.
 
^ more likely it'll keep getting splattered with scalding oil until it is scarred and blistered beyone recognition.
 
UnfortunateSquid said:
Three words:
COLD. WATER. EXTRACTION.
Can you tell me how it's done or at least give a link. That way other people can learn how to do it and save our livers.

SOL(Save Our Livers) member since '92
 
It's really simple stuff, most (if not all) opiates are very soluble in water. APAP is not that soluble at all.
Basically, all you do is smash up the pills into a fine power (mortal and pestle, or a cup, something blunt and some patience, or just put them in a baggie and pound the shit out of them with a hammer or such).

Then put the (very) finely crushed pills in a cup and add half a cup of water, give them a stir, let them sit for 15 mins, stir again and put the cup in the fridge for 15 mins. Most of the opiates should have dissolved, and most of the fillers/APAP/other shit should have fallen to the bottom of the cup.

Then filter the lot through something fine-mesh (coffee filters work great, failing that the finest-mesh old tshirt you can find. You should get a cloudly (if it's really white filter it again through something finer) liquid, and a whole bunch of white goopy crap in the tshirt. Throw that away and drink the liquid.

This should get 80% of what's in your pills out, whilst leaving behind 90% of the APA and saving your internal organs some abuse.

If you find this doesn't work too well, try using warm water, but leave it in the fridge longer, that sometimes gets a bit more out. The longer you leave it, and the more you stir it, the better the extraction usually.
 
Also, use distilled water, not tap. Tap water contains chlorine and often many other minerals and chemicals. I'm not sure what opiates are susceptible to, but many chemicals are destroyed by chlorine.
 
No need whatsoever to use distilled tap water. The ammount of chlorine in 100ml of tap water is utterly negligible compared to the quantity of whatever opiate in the pills you're CWEing. Opiates aren't especially susceptible to chlorine anyway.
 
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