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6 APB nastiness, down to prior O Desmethyltramadol use, or something else?

psaxxon

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Just wondering about this little episode, wondering if anyone can shed any light for me?

I've done 6 APB before, but not excessively. I had three of the first pressing which I know were weak and I've done 115mg of the powder on a few occasions which was always good, really good. Extremely messy, grinning euphoric goodness, no raised BP or heart rate to speak of, visuals which seem to take the form of shimmering and an orange tint to my vision etc. All good.

The last time was a 6th or 7th pressing, one blue/green pellet, usual sealed foil wrapper, oral, chewed.

The come-up was a bit gnarly but handled OK, I was pacing around a bit, no real noticed increase in heart rate. Two hours in it was still feeling like the come-up, only more so. I felt very cold, getting the orange shimmering, like the room was fire-lit, it looked like I should be peaking but instead of euphoria there was tension and anxiety, weird to explain but it was like a panic attack without the actual panic. Tachycardia was also present which I've never had before with this substance, my heartbeat was elevated (100bpm) but each beat had a force to it that I'd never felt before, like a sledgehammer banging against my chest. Looking in the mirror my pupils were dilated to a degree I'd never before had with this substance, infact I'd seriously doubt there was any room to dilate further.

This was extremely unpleasant, it abated a few hours in and I calmed down along with my heartbeat and had a few beers. There was zero euphoria at any point, nothing, just feeling cold, agitated and anxious although I was pretty sure I'd get through it so no real panic.

I've explained this as well as I can, I'm just wondering why it happened. Could it have been a pellet with a bit more than 100mg in it? Or could it have have been the 500mg of O Desmethyltramadol I'd done over the week, last dose of this was 60mg the day before the 6 APB?
 
It's possible that you encountered some mild W/Ds from the O-dt around the same time you took the 6-APB. Your negative physical and psychological state could have triggered the unpleasant headspace the 6-APB then caused. Having taken both a lot of 6-APB and O-dt, I'd say that from my experience, the day after finishing an O-dt binge is always very nasty.
 
Cheers for the reply Pete..

I doubt it was WDs though mate, I'd have recognised those and doubt my O-dt usage would have been enough to bring them on, it was only 500mg over a week. I know tramadol can be bad news with psychs and serotonergics so I checked as best I could and the only info I could find stated that O-dt retained none of tramadols SSRI capability but did retain activity as a noradrenaline reuptake inhibitor. I was wondering if this could have anything to do with it?

I know my pupils off of this (100mg?) pellet were at pretty much max dilation, 115mg of supposedly pure (95%+) powder didn't dilate to this extent. It also didn't produce the tachycardia or dysphoria this pellet did, I'm puzzled and more than that, I want to try and make sure it doesn't happen again..
 
All of this "sealed foil bags = AUTHENTICITY" is total crap to me. Can't polish a turd. Just because your vendor is shipping something doesn't mean they are consistient with the product they do provide. It's entirely possible that you got a bunk batch.

On the other hand, your symptoms (pupil dialation, anxiety, general malaise) lines up very well with an excess of norepinephrine hanging around. I would put money on an interaction between the 6-APB and the ODT. If it's not opiate WD then it's probably just the norepinephrine reuptake running rampant.
 
I agree on the O5, 'authentic' crap and would usually prefer to get a powder from a vendor I trust and a batch I've heard good things about than a branded RC. I couldn't get the powder on this occasion and only really mentioned it for clarity. I don't trust the "Benzo Fury" mob particularly, especially considering the shit they're coming out with now, WTF is "Matrix Fury" or "Fury X" anyway? No thanks.

I've had no O-dt for a couple of weeks now and am planning 6 APB for the weekend, hopefully I'll have a better time of things this time..
 
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