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(6-APB/2 pellets) First time: MDMA nearly-lite followed by bruxism n' vomitfests

koneko

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We had 4 6-APB pellets, the light orange coloured ones. Decided I'd take the risk to try it out and see how it went and I'm glad I did - but have mixed reviews.

We took one pellet each - I was with my partner at home, which is our ideal setting. We are 40 and 44 and have a varied and reasonably wide experience of RC's especially those available in the UK which were banned earlier this year. We both really love our 2C's and psychedelics and have have enjoyed Methylone over all RC's as a particularly good "couple drug". Mdma / decent pills have become incredibly difficult for us to source in Scotland, hence we have opened up to trying new experiences and weighing up the risk of doing so.

Last night we started with one pellet each, crushed up in our mouth at 10.30pm (GMT). No other drugs were consumed though we'd both had a little alcohol.

Within 30 minutes we could feel the effects starting - music appreciation was amazing and I started to dance around to Toots & The Maytals etc, harder dance music was just not hitting my spot! We got chatty and cuddly with each other and started to play around "sexy-like" though my boyfriend could not quite rise to the occasion we both felt naughty and adventurous, ending up playing around in an uninhibited manner of dirtiness. Great fun! =D

What struck me about this one pellet experience was how smooth and easy it was. So gentle but never quite getting me to the place I wanted to be. Little mini-rushes, lite euphoria, pleasant stimulation. No ill effects - no headaches or nausea. Just fun times, great intimate conversations - but not quite getting there to what we'd really have liked. Unaffected eyesight and a clear head ensured I could even see my BL screen on my laptop! Felt totally in control if I needed to be.

We both wanted to try more - to see where it took us next and if would ramp up the enjoyable effect's we'd been getting.

At 2.20am we crushed and ate the second pellet.

Things changed from here on in - like we'd taken a completely different drug 8o

At 3.00am I could feel my body temperature fluctuate - We decided to go and sit outdoors, look at the trees and stare at the stars in the sky. It felt good to cool down a bit - I was getting unpleasantly hot n' sweaty. The stars started moving around and leaving tracers - swirling away. We have colour changing lights in our garden and they immediately took my attention as the drug changed into a very much psychedelic experience for me. This was great - it was a colourful, easy scene with no head fuckery. Pretty, colourful and engaging shape-shifting, breathing surfaces and intricate patterning.

By 3.45am I started to feel very nauseous my partner started suffering bad jaw clenching that was beginning to distract him. We tried to get some magnesium down him but it had no effect. I could feel it too. Quite quickly we got really fucked - wobbly on our feet, vision very compromised. The visuals were very enjoyable for me but sometimes the whole garden would morph into a breathing cartoon like place. I was totally tripping balls! My partner less so, he was beginning to look agitated and not having such a good time, due to the severe jaw clenching & teeth grinding.

By 4.20am the vomiting started - it came on very suddenly and there was no warning. It was the strangest sickness I've ever experienced - gurgling, windy, acid bile type. Very distressing. I started first (and I can be quite a vomiter on many things) but very soon after my partner started too (very unusual for him). This sickness went on every 15-20 mins or so for the next 7-8 hours. It was horrifying and totally spoiled the pretty psychedelics and energy. By 5.00am we both had really bad headaches and taking ibuprofen did nothing. By sunrise my headache at the front of my head was the most massive migraine, so so painful and quite frightening. It consumed me in-between the constant puking and mad lovely visuals.

I'd been enjoying the psychedelic experience at this dose - it was beautiful and non threatening but totally spoiled by the negative side-effects. There was little joy with so much crap going on physically.

Neither of us had any clue what was going on with our body thermostat - it was all over the place. Sensibly enough we brought blankets into the garden to snuggle up together in. We kept throwing up - within the hour agreed it would be safer to go indoors. I noticed on the 2nd pellet my thermostat was all over the place, I was really unsteady on my feet / walking and could not see properly.

By 6.00am we'd taken to the comforts of our bedroom, still close and hugging but having to still take breaks to throw up. This is what the 2nd pellet experience was most marked for - very sore jaw clenching, major head pain and constant trips to the loo. Relentless and we started to get really fed up. Things were still really trippy for me though he'd stopped.

By 7.00pm we spoke of settling ourselves. We had 7.5mg zopiclones and 1mg xanaxes in the drug box and decided to go for the xanax to smooth ourselves, and lessen the anxiety we were getting about the awful side effects. It took 3 xanaxes each over a 3 hour spell to get us to ease up and nod off.

By 11.30pm we had nausea, painful head and were knackered - the 3rd xanax slowly kicked in, coddling us into some sleep. By mid-day today we slept until 4.00pm.

Now that was a surprising experience for us - the first pellet smoothness and niceness but not quite hitting the spot was lovely. So much so we were driven to continuing the experience by taking the 2nd. This turned into a compete nightmare - a great pity as the visuals were great fun but overridden by the constant vomiting and discomfort. It truly was like taking a different drug.

My conclusion to our wee experiment is - yes, I'd take it again (infrequently) but I would not touch the pellets again. IMHO they are a very bad idea as you have little control over your dose and what actual amounts of active 6-apb's in them. I'd rather wait to see if 6-apb becomes available in powder form so you can accurately measure the dose for yourself.

2 pellets were horrible physically on us - one not enough. Somewhere between those points is a really nice couple drug for us to enjoy.
 
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Thank god...........I was waiting to try my pellets until at least a few mods/long time members did. I guess I'll give it a whirl soon............I guess I should try it at home due to all the mentions of vomit/stomach isssues.
 
FINALLY, a report on this stuff that we can trust.

What you describe sounds like typical serotonergic toxicity, but of course I could be wrong.

I wonder how strong of a MAOI this drug is...?

Either way, I would not recommend taking a drug that makes one so ill for so long after its main effects are past.
 
^ yep - i was the other half during this experience and we both thought it was important to write up a trip report from people the other users would hopefully trust. :)

but that jaw clenching was the worst i've ever had. i get it pretty bad with methylone and sometimes with MDMA, but this was in a different league. as soon as we took the second pill, it completely ruined the experience for me. i can handle throwing up a bit, but the jaw clenching and teeth grinding went on for HOURS. thank fuck for xanax, that's all i can say.

i must confess that i hadn't even thought of whether this compound is a MAIO, but that's an interesting point.

anyway, the first pill we had was fantastic. i would definitely do it again, but the thought of taking a second one makes me feel nauseous!

cheers.

edit: here's a photo of the pills, for the record:

6apb.jpg


the packet listed the ingredients as: 6-APB, Microcrystalline Cellulose, Magnesium Stearate. presumably they're the binders.

but as always, who knows for sure what is actually in these RCs. caveat emptor and ALWAYS remember that you are basically choosing to be a human guinea pig. :|

ALSO: Bruxism = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruxism
 
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I will try it out on Wed. and will write a long report...detail down to a short novel. Just to be safe I will have my g/f keep an eye on my bp and make sure that I don't redose no matter how much I might want to. I have never had stomach problems from any substance besides the first time I tried morphine so I will see what is up with the stomach issues as well.
 
So going by the report, if we had the exact same batch/pellets...would you rec. 1 and 1/4 pellets or just take the one? The blind leading the blind and all that but I feel I'm at the perfect time in my life where I can experiment.
 
personally, i would just stick to the one. the first one lasted a surprisingly long time, so just go into it thinking it's a 4 hour 'trip'.

i very rarely puke, ever, so this was a bit of a surprise to me. it'll be interesting to hear how you get on. :)
 
Ok thanks............ if my iron stomach throws this one up then i will be mad....I have a loooooong streak of not puking :) Does it feel anything like the peak of methylone with a tad bit of 2c-i/2c-t-2 thrown in? Or is it more like a less stimulating mephedrone with a slight psychedelic twinge(thinking 5-meo-dalt)....stupid questions I know but curiosity got the best of me.
 
Ok thanks sounds perfect at the one pellet dose...the way kate described the hot/cold thing was reminding me of pFPP/MCPP....theo moral of the story is start low and don't act like a fool with it....aka treat it like a psych not a empathogenic stim.
 
yep - i did suggest that perhaps there was some piperazines etc in them, with the usual side effects like nausea, headaches, and ridiculously long lasting stimulation. :\
 
that was two nights ago, so we're OK today. but yesterday was shit, we were both feeling wobbly & tired all day (the xanax plus a lack of sleep are probably the main causes, in fairness). it was a major effort to have something to eat but i felt much better when i did. some Guinnesses smoothed the edges somewhat too. ;)
 
Within 30 minutes we could feel the effects starting - music appreciation was amazing and I started to dance around to Toots & The Maytals etc, harder dance music was just not hitting my spot! We got chatty and cuddly with each other and started to play around "sexy-like" though my boyfriend could not quite rise to the occasion we both felt naughty and adventurous, ending up playing around in an uninhibited manner of dirtiness. Great fun!

What struck me about this one pellet experience was how smooth and easy it was. So gentle but never quite getting me to the place I wanted to be. Little mini-rushes, lite euphoria, pleasant stimulation. No ill effects - no headaches or nausea. Just fun times, great intimate conversations - but not quite getting there to what we'd really have liked. Unaffected eyesight and a clear head ensured I could even see my BL screen on my laptop! Felt totally in control if I needed to be.


This is probably exactly what I would like. :D
 
that was two nights ago, so we're OK today. but yesterday was shit, we were both feeling wobbly & tired all day (the xanax plus a lack of sleep are probably the main causes, in fairness). it was a major effort to have something to eat but i felt much better when i did. some Guinnesses smoothed the edges somewhat too. ;)


hey felix:) could ya please post the downside of this expereince on the 6-apb side effects thread?

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=518782

cheers
 
And to think there are morons encouraging taking 4 of these at a time on the big thread!

Nice report
 
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