I can't even tell you how many times I've worked with this compound and I've never noticed any problems. Of course everyone is different and may react as such. I've got no reason to 'hide' any side effects or be dishonest about them. I would certainly post here if I noticed any problems myself. The only side effect of significance I've noticed (and it happens with many trytamines for me) is I get some tremors and shaky hands during the peak if I take a good dose. This is insignificant to me compared to 4-OH-DET. That one makes me shake so bad I won't even take it anymore.
However, as far as your nursepractitioner's comments... Of course it's possible that one or more of these compounds has renal toxicity, but she doesn't know that any more than we do and she probably knows less in the case of RC's. Do you really think your nurse practitioner is going to tell you it's ok to take RC's? 8) There have been very few if any controlled studies for most of these compounds, so if your aren't willing to take those risks of essentially taking an experimental drug, you shouldn't be experimenting with them. Plain and simple.
I know the risks. I'm not stupid. When I bought my sample, I did so from a web site and am completely informed that these are not for human consumption. I know that there could be adverse reactions. I'm not complaining about the fact that I DID have an adverse reaction, I'm just putting it out there and asking everyone else if they've ever had a similar experience with 4-ho-mipt. As soon as I had a repeat experience with this chem., I immediately made the dicision to not ingest anymore in the future, and promptly flushed my remaining 900'n'somthin'mg down the toilet. (No one I know around me uses this stuff, or drugs period.)
Nobody knows if/what the long term effects of most of these compounds will be. As Glogg said, if you feel you have problems with this one, don't take it anymore.
I did have probs with this one, and I'm not taking it anymore. It's covered.
How many times have you taken miprocin and has it caused this issue for you most/all of those times?
've taken it 4 times, and the last 2 trials I had this problem.
If this is a one time occurance, it could be many things other than the drug. What other drugs do you use, the frequency, etc. It could be a combination a factors causing this issue.
It's a one-time occurence because I don't use any other drugs. I don't smoke weed. I don't smoke cigarettes. I don't even really drink but once every 2 months. And even when I do it's not more than 4 drinks on average. So I'm pretty sure it was solely caused by 4-ho-mipt. And I'm POSITIVE (not 100% ) that it was 4-ho-mipt and not something else. The 1000mg baggie it came in was labeled as such. UNLESS someone sold me something else fraudulently. Otherwise, in terms of psychedellica experience, I experienced what everyone has in terms of trip reports.
I'm not saying it's a safe compound and renal toxicity isn't possible, but I've eaten an awful lot of miprocin in some pretty high doses (over just a few month period) and never noticed any significant side-effects. If renal toxicity is a real side effect, it likely has a pretty low rate of occurance or I would think more folks would be complaining about it by now.
True. But since the rules of this site state that no identities or companies can be mentioned in this site, then the chance of comparing "dealers" is moot. Point being, we aren't allowed to warn each other of WHO to watch out for and WHO NOT TO BUY FROM. Something that's important for safety's sake, but not realistic on this site.
Many drugs have some serious side effects that are rare or only occur in a low percentage of users. If it consistantly causes this problem for you, DON'T USE IT.
I'M NOT. FOR THE 4TH TIME.
Kind of like sticking your hand in the fire when you know you will get burned.
Kinda not, but for someone who would ingest my sample a 3rd, 4th, and more times after having had bouts of moderate to severe lower back pain VERY closely located in the region of the kidneys, yes.
Good luck.
Don't worry. My play with researchables is over. I'll be sticking to "natural" and "tried-and-tested" psychedilics from now on. Chances of me actually using any of such in the future: .....ummmm..about 0%. So I'm safe
-gp