I have now read this whole thread and I am going to bump it. After 12 years on this site I think I can speak my mind.
I have absolutely no idea what to make of this substance because of the quite incredible manner in which most people have approached the experimentation of it. I come from a country where it is basically impossible, unless you run the gauntlet, to obtain these countless different types of "recreational/stimulant/empathogenic/entactenogenic/hallucinogenic/i'mcompletelytrolleyedogenic" drugs. It is just mind boggling.
hi, have tried this stuff a few times and i've got some strange side effects, although im pretty sure i took too much.
i sniffed around 600mg id guess over the space of a few hours
first off the stuff defo ain't supposed to go up your nose! my nose is i cut to shreds on the inside and im pretty sure bits of nose flew out when i blew it!
but yeah the weirdest side effect i got was an absolutey aching head, a real pulsating pain. it happened after a big line. the thing i noticed was that sniffing it hurt more than usual, it started off a bad stinging sensation under my eye (ever get when you do a line and it 'goes up the wrong way' so to speak) .. difference was this progessed into a real bad pulsating headache
the weirder thing was that the headache gradually died off when i stood up, to the point where it was non-exsistant after a few minutes. sitting back down it would return, roughly around the same amount of time it took to die off. this pain lasted for maybe 3 or 4 hours before fucking off!
the next thing was a really sound strange in my ear. when i stook up i'd get the usual slight dizzyness etc, but then i'd start hearing a loud hissing noise, sort of like a untuned radio. it would get quite loud to the point it was hard to hear the tv and music. this happened near enough every time i stood up! it was defo 'in my head' as i could hear the noise just as vividly when my put my fingers in my ears to see if it disappeared!
this strange sound continued on until even after i'd slept, athough it got quiter over time
This post is a disgrace. All of these symptoms are consistent with massively inflated blood pressure, where this young man (no question it is a young man) has a significant risk of stroke or aneurysm. It sounds like he is having a pretty fucked time and I am not surprised. It is entirely consistent with an overdose of an amphetamine, over whatever period of time. I keep thinking that 50mg of pure methylamphetamine could kill a non-tolerant user. I have had even just 30mg of dexamphetamine at once, and the feeling is patently unpleasant, high blood pressure, general wiredness, it is just not nice. And here we have someone consuming 600mg of a para halogenated amphetamine. Fuck knows what this compound does. We know if you swap a chlorine for the fluorine some of the neurons in your brain are completely destroyed. Now I know that this one small difference in the molecule might change things, after all, you drop one oxygen atom from carbon dioxide, which is what we all breathe out, and you end up with one of the most lethal and readily available poisons causing respiratory failure and death known to man. But the above approach is seriously outrageous. Thankfully some of you pulled him up on it.
Next, I read of the guy, who mind you is doing his best to give us a decent trip report of 4-FA, that when it all got a bit hard, being not really what he was after, he decided to consume 140mg of MDMA crystal mid trip??!! OMFG. That quantity of MDMA crystal, for anyone who has had a remotely decently rest from these drugs (maybe even only a couple of weeks) should be the most incredible empathogenic/serotonergic drug experience anyone could ever have. It should be savoured forever. Not dusted as icing sugar over some strange fruit cake that was the 4-FA.The entire 4-FA report, and any good he might have done in assisting others with gaining some insight into this compound, is rendered meaningless.
It really has been an eye opener. Thanks for letting me speak my mind.
As for snorting, well the reason it hurts is because it is a fairly caustic, near pure, crystalline powder, that may or may not dissolve well up there. I have no idea why people who are intent on snorting substances that plainly should be swallowed, don't cut their substance down 50% with glucose powder, with precise measuring and thorough mixing of course.
P.S. Is there anyone who can genuinely assist with determining how this substance should be treated by people who may be keen to try it and what sort of users it is best suited to? Thanks. For those people who did positively contribute with their experiences, I thank you. As does this site.