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Tryptamines [4-AcO-DMT Subthread] Dosage & Methods of Administration

anondragonfly said:
I have found:

5-10mg: good for a light psychedelic buzz. I take this dose for concerts often. It can be a bit uncomfortable coming up in a crowd but once past that, it makes practically any concert awesome. Might want some caffiene though, 4-aco-dmt can make me a bit sleepy.

15-20mg: usually a solid medium-strength trip. The first time I took this drug I took 20mg, and that was very very strong mentally. TR
Since that trip I have never had strong mental effects on 4-aco-dmt

25+mg: usually quite strong, 27mg left me unable to move for about an hour, the visuals were ridiculous
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I have taken 30mgs and i got very minor, if not, no visuals what so ever. Made me wonder about my product. 20mgs gave me walls moving and such but still nothing amazing. Going to try 25 right now again. See what happens.
 
28mg floored my friend....so the next time he took 6mg just to check out the low end....and it was pretty potent still, he was very surprised at his sensitivity, in a good way!
 
.Felix. said:
I have taken 30mgs and i got very minor, if not, no visuals what so ever. Made me wonder about my product. 20mgs gave me walls moving and such but still nothing amazing. Going to try 25 right now again. See what happens.
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I'll be tripping with you tonight felix on my maiden voyage... but a bit later. I'll send you good vibes. :)

and this identity crisis is what has been keeping me away from tryptamines... It's like two different paths... LSD or phenethylamine ++++ seems more like I merge into everything and then there is no me... only all... with tryptamines it seems more like the "neti neti" path... "I am not this" until you have determined that you don't exist. Just way different then the path I am on... but I am very interested in exploring. I'll cross my fingers. :)
 
I honestly think it's purely subjective. I have now shared from my 4-aco-dmt with three friends... two at the 20mg range and one at the 25mg range. One of the 20mg-ers reported effects similar to mine... tripping very hard. The other two only reported interesting body sensations and the feeling that they were about to start tripping but never did... one of those two almost got sick from the nausea while none of the rest of us experienced any.

This is all from the same batch of the fumarate... so really, I think we are all talking about the same compound...

To felix: From this data I've collected, I think maybe some people are just hard-heads... you may be one of them.. try increasing your dose further. <3 :)
 
isotopic_parody said:
I honestly think it's purely subjective. I have now shared from my 4-aco-dmt with three friends... two at the 20mg range and one at the 25mg range. One of the 20mg-ers reported effects similar to mine... tripping very hard. The other two only reported interesting body sensations and the feeling that they were about to start tripping but never did... one of those two almost got sick from the nausea while none of the rest of us experienced any.

This is all from the same batch of the fumarate... so really, I think we are all talking about the same compound...

To felix: From this data I've collected, I think maybe some people are just hard-heads... you may be one of them.. try increasing your dose further. <3 :)
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Aye Aye Captain! :)

I will up the dose 10 mgs... maybe 15, I have gone 30mgs with this solution before.
 
I've also had very varied results. Gave 4-AcO fumerate in 15-25 mg doses to 7-8 people. 3 of us got nice visuals, rest reported barely any/no visuals.
 
I've tried this chem three times at 20, 23, and 16 mg and only had very mild visuals at 23, and none to speak of at the lower doses.. but I generally don't get a lot of visuals from most psychedelics, though mushrooms are one of the more visual for me (as is DMT of course) so I would expect 4-aco to be too
 
4-Aco-DMT Dosing

I was just wondering what the normal dose for 4-Aco-DMT is? I looked on erowid and there is no information on it and there is no thread open yet for dosing 4-Aco-DMT in the psychedelic index. Your responses are appreciated
 
my first time dosing i took 25mg which seemed about equal to an 1/8 of mushies. I steady rose the dose from there and am currently taking around 35-40mg. My friends take around 50mg. (all oral)
 
^ lol those doses are way too high for a first timer....id say 25mg is a pretty intense experience. 15mg is more where a begginer should start.
 
Since this thread included "modes of administration" i feel i should mention i have tried aco-dmt intranasally. I once bumped 10mg of the stuff and found it to be totally painless. The come up was the same but for me the comeup of oral aco-dmt is 10-15mins anyway.
 
jackdaw said:
Is 4-Aco-DMT vapourizible or smokeable? In suitably less dose's than orally?%)
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I tried vaping ~10mg earlier. Nice body high and mildly psychedelic effects noted. Along with a really nasty residue on the foil which doesn't generally bode well for the vaped route.

Realising vaping was probably not the way forward I IV'd a similar amount (not exactly HR at its finest but an eyeballed amount somewhere in the vicinity of 10mg... probably). The way forward was found =D

Scales will be used in any future follies - I am a reckless boy sometimes so please do as I say not as I do.
 
Didn't take my own advice... all I can add is that it's hard to see the screen through the insane visual haze and the bodybuzz is pure orgasm. HR has left the building for a while <3

PS: Holy fuck that's some potent medicine 8o
 
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12 mg IM (actually 9 mg Aco, 3 mg HO) made for an unparalleled experience. IM admin of 4-Aco-DMT has unique pharmacodynamics, allowing time for a high peak while maintaining a distinct onset and plateau. To put it in perspective, the IM experience was more intense than a trial of 34 mg taken orally. It may be worth noting that a few friends found 25 mg oral to be overly intense initially, i.e. your mileage may vary.

Based on experiences with IV DMT, I imagine that IV 4-Aco-DMT also be something special...micron-filtered of course.
 
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