RCs 3F-Phenmetrazine (3-FPM)

[crOOk]

Cancer-free combustion?! Do you have any idea how significant a discovery that would be?

Let's not forget the highly cancerogenic Radon we find in all tobacco products. :D

All in all, he's a smart gentleman--as smart as any of the best of us on this forum--despite his incredibly reckless personal lifestyle. It's quite possible that familiarity breeds complacency, however, and he or we should be more vigilant about warning that his actions should not set an example for others.

[MENTION=63773]crOOk[/MENTION]: I also think it's worth considering that you missed part of the shot, if such a dose is as far above your comfortable limits as you say. That, or perhaps the high stimulant dose caused sufficient local vasoconstriction or changes in vascular permeability to partially prevent or at least slow the release of the entire dose into systemic circulation. Who knows. Stimulants do protect against opiate-induced respiratory depression, but I imagine that protection can only extend so far (a true and selective respiratory stimulant would likely be far more effective.). Either way, I'm sure you agree that speedballs are high risk behaviors even when you avoid short-acting stimulants like cocaine or methylphenidate.

Why thank you, that is a very nice thing to say. Yes, I have actually cleaned up quite a bit and the occasional post about drug binges are just that - occasional.

Regarding the missed shot. I know a whole lot of it got into my system, but some liquid most definitely got into my subcutaneous tissue. Enough for it to hurt a couple of days and see some swelling, but not enough to feel a lump. You are probably right. Btw I've never injected grams of MDMA in single sittings and my single shots were between 100 and 200mg. Still whopping doses considering I never really abused or overdid MDMA before I got to try injecting it. I am reckless, maybe I have a teeny tiny death wish, but I am definitely not gonna off myself with MDMA. :D I wonder what a 1g shot of MDMA would do though - It'd probably just knock me out and have me wake up six hours later.

Hy cr00k, how about your consumption? Did you manage to dissolve your 3f in vodka or something like that (to stay away from the needle)?

I delayed the order since I was gonna wait for this Ethyl-Hexedrone stuff to become available, but hopefully I will manage to stick to the plan.

i wouldnt say that. and its much safer than snorting or eating it as you can titrate doses better. its real hard on the nose, and oral caues gastric distress

Come on, don't be riddiculous. For anyyone who read those recommendations: Go for oral administration. Even I as an avid IV user can wholeheartedly recommend that route. You will experience the full range of effects minus the IV rush. I experienced no gastric distress after any of my ~100 oral doses of 700-1000mg each (NOT a dosage recommendation!), despite having a very weak stomach prone to inflammations. Give me 500mg ASS and I'll puke blood. This: Nothing. That being said, any drug can cause gastric distress and this one is not gonna be an exception. I would still recommend eating this drug over administering it via any other route. The only route which gives any added benefit is IV, but the costs are much too high to be worthwhile for most. Drink it with lots of water, like half a liter regardless of the amount of drug you are taking.

 

[belfort]

for you guys that binge on this stuff all day long..say 100 mgs every hour for 8-9 hours..how do you feel the next day?just exhausted and grumpy?

 

[plarp]

I fell into this when MPA wasn't available. Using quite frequently since sept. Not enjoying it and definitely have a tolerance and can't sleep without sedatives. Positive effects weight loss. Am irritable without it. Looking forward to the ban because my mental health is bound to deteriorate if I continue

 

[belfort]

ive finally got ahold of this and dosed twice..i only took 30 mg or so orally..in 20 minutes, i notice i feel more awake, positive..its so much easier to type and words just flow..i actually enjoy typing out messages and sending PMs to people..this is a very subtle speedy feeling and feels quite nice..biggest disappointment is it only lasted maybe an hour and a half..if it lasted twice as long id love this stuff but the duration as is is very short..i hate to keep having to redose but oh well..

2nd attempt i dosed and went shopping..again, maybe 40 mgs..i start feeling more awake, interested on whats going around me.i feel interested in talking to people around me when im sober i just ignore..this time i notice the typical stim CNS effects though which bummed me out..

overall 3-fpm kind of both exceeded my expectations and disappointed me..its a nice functional feeling(no euphoria) but doesnt last long at all..im trying to picture scenarios where this stuff could be used effectively..maybe if you are just home trying to get work done and u need a boost of energy?this doesnt seem like a good recreational or party drug because youd have to redose constantly(annoying but depends where you are at) and u would likely need something to take the edge off the stimulation

 

[BigG]

People report extreme euphoria when it's vaped off tin foil (not recomending this though). Oral has been reported to cause stomach problems and snorted is SEVERELY irritating.

 

[belfort]

oh and btw, 3-fpm causes my balls to go and hide.lol...no sex drive increase on 3-fpm like some other stims..pretty disappointing as i was hoping to maybe use this when i went out socially..all plans for that went right out the window..

 

[BigG]

Strange....it has the opposite effect on most. One EADDer suffered major penis damage (form banjo string) from excessive fucking of his wife while on 3FPM

Seems to cause most to fuck/masturbate themselves half to death...

 

[belfort]

Strange....it has the opposite effect on most. One EADDer suffered major penis damage (form banjo string) from excessive fucking of his wife while on 3FPM

Seems to cause most to fuck/masturbate themselves half to death...

i read several folks on reddit that claimed the same thing but not with me..lol..

 

[BigG]

Haha!! (that should be a said TORN banjo string i.e.frenulum by the way )

 

[coz111]

A quick queation for everyone who likes to vape their stiff. Has anybody here experienced any kind of discomfort/pain/damage/serious long term side effetcts on the mouth/throat/teeth etc which they feel is likely caused by their
3-fpm usage?

 

[BigG]

One of my friends over in EADD posted a terrible pic of a sore on his toungue from several days of vaping. I wish I could find it to repost but it is buried in the EADD 3-FPM megathread so I can't find it. I'll have another look though.

The thing is with 3FPM is that it's only been widespread for a year or two so long term damage is difficult to say. I very much doubt vaping is good for you though.

I tried vaping it once and while it doesn't taste bad something about it feels wrong. There's also the issue that there seems to be more than one "type" that varies from batch to batch....even with pure stuff. Suggests an issue with synthesis and a difference in the isomers of the end product perhaps .

 

[belfort]

damn, im not sure if its just because im sensitive to stimulants but i find if i dose 3-fpm 1-2 times back to back, as soon as the 2nd dose wears off i feel residual stimulation that tends to linger for a few hours..its not a pleasant feeling and l theanine nor beta blockers helped much..not about to take a benzo for it either..i cant imagine how u guys feel after dosing 100s of milligrams after 3-4 hours..ugghh..what do you guys do to alleviate this feeling?

btw i just found out that kratom eliminates 98% of the lingering stimulation..to bad the 3-fpm somehow seems to cancel out most of the mood boost from kratom..lol

 

[crOOk]

damn, im not sure if its just because im sensitive to stimulants but i find if i dose 3-fpm 1-2 times back to back, as soon as the 2nd dose wears off i feel residual stimulation that tends to linger for a few hours..its not a pleasant feeling and l theanine nor beta blockers helped much..not about to take a benzo for it either..i cant imagine how u guys feel after dosing 100s of milligrams after 3-4 hours..ugghh..what do you guys do to alleviate this feeling?

btw i just found out that kratom eliminates 98% of the lingering stimulation..to bad the 3-fpm somehow seems to cancel out most of the mood boost from kratom..lol

I know that feeling all too well. Even amphetamine has me tweaked for 40 hours after a single (high) dose. After that it's still days to be back to baseline. I never crash like others do. I attribute this to my bipolar I disorder, most people just seem to crash at some point, which is precisely the point when I will go into overdrive mode. Should your mood improving over the course of your stimulant use, you might want to stop.

Oh and I use olanzapin to come down. 1000 times better than benzos in my opinion, but a lot of people here disagree.

 

[Sprout]

I know that feeling all too well. Even amphetamine has me tweaked for 40 hours after a single (high) dose. After that it's still days to be back to baseline. I never crash like others do. I attribute this to my bipolar I disorder, most people just seem to crash at some point, which is precisely the point when I will go into overdrive mode. Should your mood improving over the course of your stimulant use, you might want to stop.

Oh and I use olanzapin to come down. 1000 times better than benzos in my opinion, but a lot of people here disagree.

Or if you post about Citalopram being the pinnacle of stimulant euphoria and have some random BP/SA guy warn you that such a reaction is precipitated hypo/mania and seriously need to see your psyche again?

 

[belfort]

I know that feeling all too well. Even amphetamine has me tweaked for 40 hours after a single (high) dose. After that it's still days to be back to baseline. I never crash like others do. I attribute this to my bipolar I disorder, most people just seem to crash at some point, which is precisely the point when I will go into overdrive mode. Should your mood improving over the course of your stimulant use, you might want to stop.

Oh and I use olanzapin to come down. 1000 times better than benzos in my opinion, but a lot of people here disagree.

after yesterday and feeling that tweaked feeling for the majority of the night im not gonna take this stuff for awhile..i mean, the scatter-brained anxious feel was with me long after the peak effects worn off..i only dosed small, i cant imagine IVing large amounts like others on here..ugghh..

 

[crOOk]

Or if you post about Citalopram being the pinnacle of stimulant euphoria and have some random BP/SA guy warn you that such a reaction is precipitated hypo/mania and seriously need to see your psyche again?

Haha, I can't remember that. Did I advise you or was it the other way around? I surely find citalopram more euphoric than oral MDMA lol. No shit. 10mg -> Instant mania.

after yesterday and feeling that tweaked feeling for the majority of the night im not gonna take this stuff for awhile..i mean, the scatter-brained anxious feel was with me long after the peak effects worn off..i only dosed small, i cant imagine IVing large amounts like others on here..ugghh..

Now imagine you inject a shitload only to feel on top of the world for a minute at the most at the cost of enduring 40 hours of that feeling until you finally drop to bed once the hallucinations start. Yep, that's speed for me (as in any stimulant drug).

The problem with using a downer to come down is that I can simply do not find the time to swallow the pill since I am too busy teching out. Shit, I endure the urge to pee so long that once I've got to run I have to manually clamp my urine-swollen penis until I get there. Am I alone with that? :D

 

[Sprout]

Haha, I can't remember that. Did I advise you or was it the other way around? I surely find citalopram more euphoric than oral MDMA lol. No shit. 10mg -> Instant mania.

T'was myself advising you over in TR - I had the same reaction to Fluoxetine.

 

[dipitch]

Combo with n ethyl hexedrone?

Hi. Keyboards a little off so no kommas apostrophes. Sorry for that. (Period button still works however). Question: Has anyone ever taken the combo of 3fpm and n ethyl hexedrone? Would they pose a serious risk or enhance both substances in their effects?

 

[Ziiirp]

The problem with using a downer to come down is that I can simply do not find the time to swallow the pill since I am too busy teching out. Shit, I endure the urge to pee so long that once I've got to run I have to manually clamp my urine-swollen penis until I get there. Am I alone with that? :D

Nowadays I almost always piss into bottles. That's why I also drink a lot of fruit juice, the bottles have a wider neck. I wouldn't want a bottleneck to be the bottleneck of my drug experience.

 

[belfort]

Haha, I can't remember that. Did I advise you or was it the other way around? I surely find citalopram more euphoric than oral MDMA lol. No shit. 10mg -> Instant mania.

Now imagine you inject a shitload only to feel on top of the world for a minute at the most at the cost of enduring 40 hours of that feeling until you finally drop to bed once the hallucinations start. Yep, that's speed for me (as in any stimulant drug).

The problem with using a downer to come down is that I can simply do not find the time to swallow the pill since I am too busy teching out. Shit, I endure the urge to pee so long that once I've got to run I have to manually clamp my urine-swollen penis until I get there. Am I alone with that? :D

lol no way, no IV for me..do you keep using speed and endure the fallout?if so, why!?!i cant function close to well feeling like that in terms of work etc etc