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RCs 3F-Phenmetrazine (3-FPM)
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ScotchMist
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I've only stated playing with this a couple of days ago, I saw another member FUBAR, mentioned complete focus and then tailing off in to a little trance like sedation with a puzzled face trying to recall what it was you was meant to be doing..... it really shouldn't be that difficult to figure out with porn on the screen and your dick in hand..
Really not sure what to make of 3-F @ at all.. so i got some more for further research :D
hahahha!!! lol... i don't know how anyone could be doing that on stims i'd have a heart attack haha, then again i don't have a penis so! looool... yeah, it seems to have lost it's buzz as it would have by now but the scatty thoughts are irritating
ValentinoSix
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Absolutely. It's one of the things I really don't like about it. In fact, it cooked my brain pretty well and left me completely scatterbrained for about 5 days after a 3-day/4-gram binge of snorting, plugging, and vaping off foil. As I mentioned the other day, I'm done with 3-FPM and flushed the rest of my stash. I simply can't find enough value in it to warrant doing it again in any dose or ROA and the stuff was incredibly moreish. In fact, I found it on-par with crack, but I've gotten a lot more pleasure out of crack (especially the first few times and in the beginning of runs) than I did 3-FPM. 3-FPM now, for me anyway, is just scary.
That reminds me -- cr00k -- you still with us? Any reflections on your 3-FPM experiences you can share with us?
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Exactly! I've never done any 'hard' drugs per say except MDMA, for now- lol.
But it is extremely moreish, i've woken up and done it from morning until the time i sleep every day for a few weeks, with exception of the days i have ran out, it really does feel like your brain is fried and simple tasks become really obsessive as i imagine something like meth would make you do coming down.
LeeviON
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This is probably well known by now but I'd like to note that the apparently cleaner version of 3-FPM, the one sold as a harsher crystalline form (bigger crystals, that is) does not have the quite distinct taste that the apparently less pure has (finer product and lower price), when they are vaporized that is.
What this suggests (in my head at least) is that the taste is caused by impurities, not 3-FPM itself.
What this suggests (in my head at least) is that the taste is caused by impurities, not 3-FPM itself.
Curious777
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Some more Details
CrOOk,is absolutely *Hilarious in this thread– been following all of his posts from beginning to ending. It's comedy hour X's however long it took to read em lol; and I'm not always laughing with em of course but @ em.
Smiley smirk (*(*)*)(*)
Ok anyways, for now before I quote and follow up comment on the Crooky monster quotes – Here are so more details on 3-FPM.
3-Fluorophenmetrazineaka 3-FPM being an analogue to Phenmetrazine.
There have been many extensive and detailed tests already done on a closely related chemical substance to 3-FPM called Phenmetrazine hydrochloride which used to be back in the days called Preludin by pharmaceutical name.
3-Fluorophenmetrazine(also known as 3-FPM orPAL-593)is a morpholine based stimulant drug closely related to phenmetrazine.
Phenmetrazine(Preludin)is a stimulant drug containing phenethylamine skeleton,in which the terminal amine is incorporated into a morpholinering,that was previously used as an appetite supresent but has since been withdrawn from the market. It was initially replaced by its analague phedimetrazine which functions as a prodrugphenmetrazine, but now it is rarely prescribed, due to concerns of abuse and addiction.
3-FPM nearly the same as Phenmetrazine hydrocloride or Preludin used to be prescribed for obesity and many indeed lost weight and it worked for many at that time.
Phenmetrazine was first patented in Gemany1952 by Boebringer,with some pharmacological data published in 1954.It was the result of a search by Thomä and Wick for an anorectic drug without the side-effects of amphetamine Phenmetrazine was introduced into clinical use in 1954 in Europe.
The pills came in 25mg, 50mg & 75mg as a maximum daily dose. Only to be taken orally in the morning with breakfast 1 pill per day. It was a soft and powdery pill that could easily break apart in it's time.The Beatles used to use Preludin and it was their so called “Drug of choice” at the time.
Preludin 25mg, 50mg, 75mg also known as Phenmetrazine hydrochloride is closely related and very similar to 3-FPM.
Medical Use
In clinical use, phenmetrazine produces less nervousness, hyperexcitibility, euphoria and insomnia than drugs of the amphetamine family.It tends not to increase heart rate as much as other stimulants. Due to the relative lack of side effects one study found it well tolerated in children.In a study of the effectiveness on weightloss betweenphenmetrazine and dextroamphetamine, phenmetrazine was found to be slightly more effective”
3-FPM,Phenmetrazine hydrochloride, Preludin
Itsstructure incorporates the backbone of amphetamine, the prototypical CNS stimulant which, like phenmetrazine, is areleasing agent of dopamine and norepinephrine. The molecule alsoloosely resembless ethcathinone the active metabolite of popularanorectic, amphepremone (diethylpropion).Unlike phenmetrazine, ethcathinone (and therefore amfepramone aswell) are mostly selective as noradrenaline releasing agents.
Phenmetrazinehas been used recreationally in many countries, for example Sweden. When stimulant use first became prevalent in Sweden in the 1950s,phenmetrazine was preferred to amphetamine and methamphetamine by users.In the autobiographical novel "Rush" by Kimwozencraft, intravenous phenmetrazine is described as the most euphoric and pro-sexual of the stimulants the author used.
Phenmetrazine was taken by The Beatles early in their career. Paul Mcartney was one known user. McCartney's introduction to drugs started in Hamburg, Germany. The Beatles had to play for hours, and they were often given"Prellies" (Preludin) by the maid who cleaned their housing arrangements, German customers, or by Astridkerchher(whose mother bought them). McCartney would usually take one, but John Lennon would often take four or five.Hunter Davies asserted, in his 1968 biography of the band that their use of such stimulants then was in response to their need to stay awake and keep working, rather than a simple desire for kicks. Jack Ruby said he was on phenmetrazine at the time he killed Lee Harvey Oswald.
Preludin was also used recreationally in the U.S.A. throughout the 1960s and early 1970s. It could be crushed up in water, heated and injected.The street name for the drug in Washington, D.C. was "Bam".More recently phenmetrazine has continued to be abused around the world,in countries such as South Korea.
Everything you need to know about it's drug interactions and Toxicity.
CLICK - https://pharmacycode.com/msds/Preludin
Why was it banned? Due to people abusing the drug (people that could not control themselves such as crOOky) LOL
NOTE: Alcohol - does increase serum concentration of amphetamine when taking 3-FPM.
Running out of time at the moment so will do a follow up “To Be Continued” Post sometime tomorrow on The crOOky mOnSteR's 6000mg administered in 1 sitting session with 1,200mg (no mistype)
taken orally and up the fanny pack.
lol
Did the crOOky mOnSteR really lick his entire floor clean, shiny and dry looking for left over 3-FPM that might have fallen and/or did he really (give away) or (Flush) the remaining 400+ Grams of 3-FPM down the toilet?
A. Down the Toilet?
B. or Give Away?
How about the 1000 big G's of MDPV?
Enquiring Minds want to know on the next episode of -
Rub a dub dub, there's a crOCk in my tub.
To Be Continued...%)
CrOOk,is absolutely *Hilarious in this thread– been following all of his posts from beginning to ending. It's comedy hour X's however long it took to read em lol; and I'm not always laughing with em of course but @ em.
Smiley smirk (*(*)*)(*)Ok anyways, for now before I quote and follow up comment on the Crooky monster quotes – Here are so more details on 3-FPM.
3-Fluorophenmetrazineaka 3-FPM being an analogue to Phenmetrazine.
There have been many extensive and detailed tests already done on a closely related chemical substance to 3-FPM called Phenmetrazine hydrochloride which used to be back in the days called Preludin by pharmaceutical name.
3-Fluorophenmetrazine(also known as 3-FPM orPAL-593)is a morpholine based stimulant drug closely related to phenmetrazine.
Phenmetrazine(Preludin)is a stimulant drug containing phenethylamine skeleton,in which the terminal amine is incorporated into a morpholinering,that was previously used as an appetite supresent but has since been withdrawn from the market. It was initially replaced by its analague phedimetrazine which functions as a prodrugphenmetrazine, but now it is rarely prescribed, due to concerns of abuse and addiction.
3-FPM nearly the same as Phenmetrazine hydrocloride or Preludin used to be prescribed for obesity and many indeed lost weight and it worked for many at that time.
Phenmetrazine was first patented in Gemany1952 by Boebringer,with some pharmacological data published in 1954.It was the result of a search by Thomä and Wick for an anorectic drug without the side-effects of amphetamine Phenmetrazine was introduced into clinical use in 1954 in Europe.
The pills came in 25mg, 50mg & 75mg as a maximum daily dose. Only to be taken orally in the morning with breakfast 1 pill per day. It was a soft and powdery pill that could easily break apart in it's time.The Beatles used to use Preludin and it was their so called “Drug of choice” at the time.
Preludin 25mg, 50mg, 75mg also known as Phenmetrazine hydrochloride is closely related and very similar to 3-FPM.
Medical Use
In clinical use, phenmetrazine produces less nervousness, hyperexcitibility, euphoria and insomnia than drugs of the amphetamine family.It tends not to increase heart rate as much as other stimulants. Due to the relative lack of side effects one study found it well tolerated in children.In a study of the effectiveness on weightloss betweenphenmetrazine and dextroamphetamine, phenmetrazine was found to be slightly more effective”
3-FPM,Phenmetrazine hydrochloride, Preludin
Itsstructure incorporates the backbone of amphetamine, the prototypical CNS stimulant which, like phenmetrazine, is areleasing agent of dopamine and norepinephrine. The molecule alsoloosely resembless ethcathinone the active metabolite of popularanorectic, amphepremone (diethylpropion).Unlike phenmetrazine, ethcathinone (and therefore amfepramone aswell) are mostly selective as noradrenaline releasing agents.
Phenmetrazinehas been used recreationally in many countries, for example Sweden. When stimulant use first became prevalent in Sweden in the 1950s,phenmetrazine was preferred to amphetamine and methamphetamine by users.In the autobiographical novel "Rush" by Kimwozencraft, intravenous phenmetrazine is described as the most euphoric and pro-sexual of the stimulants the author used.
Phenmetrazine was taken by The Beatles early in their career. Paul Mcartney was one known user. McCartney's introduction to drugs started in Hamburg, Germany. The Beatles had to play for hours, and they were often given"Prellies" (Preludin) by the maid who cleaned their housing arrangements, German customers, or by Astridkerchher(whose mother bought them). McCartney would usually take one, but John Lennon would often take four or five.Hunter Davies asserted, in his 1968 biography of the band that their use of such stimulants then was in response to their need to stay awake and keep working, rather than a simple desire for kicks. Jack Ruby said he was on phenmetrazine at the time he killed Lee Harvey Oswald.
Preludin was also used recreationally in the U.S.A. throughout the 1960s and early 1970s. It could be crushed up in water, heated and injected.The street name for the drug in Washington, D.C. was "Bam".More recently phenmetrazine has continued to be abused around the world,in countries such as South Korea.
Everything you need to know about it's drug interactions and Toxicity.
CLICK - https://pharmacycode.com/msds/Preludin
Why was it banned? Due to people abusing the drug (people that could not control themselves such as crOOky)
LOLNOTE: Alcohol - does increase serum concentration of amphetamine when taking 3-FPM.
Running out of time at the moment so will do a follow up “To Be Continued” Post sometime tomorrow on The crOOky mOnSteR's 6000mg administered in 1 sitting session with 1,200mg (no mistype)
taken orally and up the fanny pack. lol Did the crOOky mOnSteR really lick his entire floor clean, shiny and dry looking for left over 3-FPM that might have fallen and/or did he really (give away) or (Flush) the remaining 400+ Grams of 3-FPM down the toilet?
A. Down the Toilet?
B. or Give Away?
How about the 1000 big G's of MDPV?
Enquiring Minds want to know on the next episode of -
Rub a dub dub, there's a crOCk in my tub.
To Be Continued...%)
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I injected 100mg MDMA intravenously 2 days ago and imho 3F-P's rush blows MDMA's rush out of the water. No match whatsoever.
As you have noted 3-Fluoro-Phenmetrazine is not Phenmetrazine aka Preludin, meaning your information is next to useless. Are you really that simple-minded? Your post is an embarassment to the site, aside from being a testament of your own immaturity.
I've done worse. Like sitting in a pile of household trash, bloody needles, butterflies and syringes, flushing them all out for one last shot. One of the lowest moment's in my life.
I'm known to flush drugs. I've been torn about my drug abuse for 17 years. This one I had actually given away first and later had a straightedge friend flush it because I kept coming back for it. I flushed a pound of MDPV which turned out to have been in my possession for years right before I flushed the 3F-P. Also google 'drug collection'! Those who were here before the gallery was taken off the site will know whose it used to be before the person in question disposed of it. It took him 2 years and zero US dollars to gather it. I've never regret flushing drugs.
Needle fixation is no joke, buddy. I'm lucky to be alive. I wish for you to never see the true face of addiction. People kill for drugs and drugs kill people, many of which were valued members of these forums and I am glad not to be one of them. Learn some godamn respect or you are gonna have to go back to the hip-forums or whichever teenage shithole spat you out. Well, at least you were tweaking when you wrote that. Hate to be the one to tell you, but nobody here is either gonna laugh with you or take you seriously. The information you provided is freely available on wikipedia, your cognitive excrements are full of typos and your formatting is a mess.
As you have noted 3-Fluoro-Phenmetrazine is not Phenmetrazine aka Preludin, meaning your information is next to useless. Are you really that simple-minded? Your post is an embarassment to the site, aside from being a testament of your own immaturity.
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Williams997
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I am trying 3FPM at the moment from my experience it's a good long lasting Chem however that depends on what you are wanting to do, personally on 3FPM I feel like you can do more and by that I mean function properly without limbs failing to work or your head to wired, it provides a steady buzz no real europhoria but a good feeling of well being, I've noticed compared to other things I can concentrate on 3FPM like reading a book, playing on games, it also has made me very talkative when I have done it with friends, two drawbacks I have noticed are the burn when snorted is bad and it increases blood pressure making it hard for you to sleep and your heart racing 6 hours after a last dose, I haven't 'gone mad' with this so can't really comment on large doses much although I did 1 big line probably about 0.4mg and felt a good sense of euphoria and a rush however this subsided quickly, I think when taking it its best to listen to your body when it comes to when to dose and how much, but overall really enjoying it, can think much clearer and you're not turned braindead after an all night binge, tried in a capsule (bombing) good results felt nice and I've noticed gumming also works quite effectively
Well a few people including me reported amnesia after taking 2-3 grams spread out over 2-3 days. I also experienced paresthesia and hypesthesia beginning a few hours into the experience which turned into brutal neurogenic pain. These are clearly signs of neurotoxicity. As for why only me has reported the latter symptom... My guess would be the high doses of up to 500mg per intravenous injection. The amnesia however has been reported by others as well. Care is advised with this one. Don't dose too high.
MilzyWilzy
Bluelighter
I had another session with 3-FPM last Friday and it was brilliant.
I love the rush, the confidence boost, the mental energy & the content feeling that it provides.
I've been taking .5-1g of this once a week for a couple of months now, it's like my weekly treat.
I acquired a g of cocaine last weekend also and 3-FPM shits all over coke. I will never buy charlie ever again, far too expensive and no where near the greatness of the 3-FPM.
;-) x
I love the rush, the confidence boost, the mental energy & the content feeling that it provides.
I've been taking .5-1g of this once a week for a couple of months now, it's like my weekly treat.
I acquired a g of cocaine last weekend also and 3-FPM shits all over coke. I will never buy charlie ever again, far too expensive and no where near the greatness of the 3-FPM.
;-) x
gorestep
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I've noticed brain zaps when trying to sleep as well as kind of nerve pain traveling down to my fingers , not pain per day but tingling in the fingers the days after
But brain zaps probably on par with heavy MDMA use
I also Agree that it's much better than general street coke.
Ha that makes three of us. It blows the IV coke rush out of the water imho, it really does. Like I said in my last post, even the MDMA rush can't compare.
However this potential only becomes revealed at very high doses, which is when the substance seems to become significantly serotonergic (and neurotoxic, too). Except for MDMA injections no stimulant has ever made my eyelids drop in an instant. Gorestep, the brain zaps you refer to are another indicator of this serotonergic activity.
Please keep updating us on the tingling in your fingers. It started just like that for me and once I started using ~5g spread out over 2 sessions per week it slowly turned into very intense neurogenic pain that had me wake up weeping and cursing at night.
I'm kinda glad hearing all this because it supports the 2 major notions I made about the substance: 3-FPM seems to be neurotoxic and strongly serotonergic at high doses (even if Curious777 begs to differ).
However this potential only becomes revealed at very high doses, which is when the substance seems to become significantly serotonergic (and neurotoxic, too). Except for MDMA injections no stimulant has ever made my eyelids drop in an instant. Gorestep, the brain zaps you refer to are another indicator of this serotonergic activity.
Please keep updating us on the tingling in your fingers. It started just like that for me and once I started using ~5g spread out over 2 sessions per week it slowly turned into very intense neurogenic pain that had me wake up weeping and cursing at night.
I'm kinda glad hearing all this because it supports the 2 major notions I made about the substance: 3-FPM seems to be neurotoxic and strongly serotonergic at high doses (even if Curious777 begs to differ).
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gorestep
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Crook - I've also noticed that I get wierd hot spots in my knees and feet after using 3fpm in the large doses we are talking about. I think u and I have pushed this chem to it's large doses 3-4 grams over a few days. - it's like me knee will feel really warm inside can't feel it on the outside. Same in my foot I wonder if that's anything to do with it.
The tingling in my fingers has gone since my last 3fpm binge was two weeks ago
BLOODY HELL THOUGH, if been using a branded 3fpm in gogain which is mixed with a numbing agent and I just this second had a few keys of pure crystal 3fpm OMG THE BURN.
I must say my friend did this with smack and said it was a really intense rush, I also smoked this a few times last month ( not something I was to get into to much ) the rush when smoking it is so much stronger
( not 3fpm related ) I've been really ill past few days horrific fever, headache - I just had a couple of keys now and I already feel better? Is this just because it's a stimulant it's probably not a good idea to do this when sick?
The tingling in my fingers has gone since my last 3fpm binge was two weeks ago
BLOODY HELL THOUGH, if been using a branded 3fpm in gogain which is mixed with a numbing agent and I just this second had a few keys of pure crystal 3fpm OMG THE BURN.
I must say my friend did this with smack and said it was a really intense rush, I also smoked this a few times last month ( not something I was to get into to much ) the rush when smoking it is so much stronger
( not 3fpm related ) I've been really ill past few days horrific fever, headache - I just had a couple of keys now and I already feel better? Is this just because it's a stimulant it's probably not a good idea to do this when sick?
gorestep
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Noticed that because I'm sick
The few keys have risen my heart to 120bpm and then down to 100bpm so probably not going to continue today, body's already probably struggling with my sickness and could put to much strain on it
Must admit though it has made me feel better though.
3fpm is a very enjoyable chem to do though
Do you think it's on par with the neurotoxicity of MDMA?
Also CROOK are u excited to try mexedrone? Mexedrone is meant to be similar to meph but not very stimulating but very euphoric, possibly mix mexe and 3fpm for euphoria and stimulation
I will be getting two grams of mexedrone on Thursday. If I'm feeling better I will be doing it and writing a trip report, and I may mix it with 3fpm aswell at low doses
The few keys have risen my heart to 120bpm and then down to 100bpm so probably not going to continue today, body's already probably struggling with my sickness and could put to much strain on it
Must admit though it has made me feel better though.
3fpm is a very enjoyable chem to do though
Do you think it's on par with the neurotoxicity of MDMA?
Also CROOK are u excited to try mexedrone? Mexedrone is meant to be similar to meph but not very stimulating but very euphoric, possibly mix mexe and 3fpm for euphoria and stimulation
I will be getting two grams of mexedrone on Thursday. If I'm feeling better I will be doing it and writing a trip report, and I may mix it with 3fpm aswell at low doses
gorestep
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4mpm and the others likes it
Both are very crap almost inactive.
You want to keep your eye out for mexedrone. And then do a 500mg mexedrone 500mg 3fpm mix
Mexedrone is very euphoric slightly stimulating add 3fpm to it and we are going to have an insanely euphoric stimulation treat
Both are very crap almost inactive.
You want to keep your eye out for mexedrone. And then do a 500mg mexedrone 500mg 3fpm mix
Mexedrone is very euphoric slightly stimulating add 3fpm to it and we are going to have an insanely euphoric stimulation treat
MilzyWilzy
Bluelighter
Gorestep, I'm really interested in the upcoming Mexedrone!
I can't wait to hear of your results on mixing it with 3-F, sounds a good combo but is it safe do you think?
I can't wait to hear of your results on mixing it with 3-F, sounds a good combo but is it safe do you think?