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3-pseudotropyl 4-fluorobenzoate freebase?

as with my post above, can anyone share some info on the HCL salt form of this?
Pleeeaase someone :)
 
Mr TIMO said:
In terms of effectiveness, and the pain of insulfating, i'm reading very mixed responses about the results and their salt form.

The OP of this topic said that the free base hurts
I read another topic where people were converting the citric salt to freebase to STOP it hurting
And then there is the HCL salt itself which i have not read about anyones experience with.

So anyone used the HCL salt variant? does it hurt to insulfate? and is it effective?

Cheeers :)

bump, can anyone help me out with this one?
 
The citrate salt is quite soluble in water (dissolves with ease with just warm water), so that'd most probably be he one to go with. As to the pain factir when snorted, I have no idea as I don't snort anything (due to having girly sinuses! :D).

I have eventually tried dosing it via the IM route and 50mg by that route was very noticable, but no stinging as reported for the snorted drug - the noticable effect being my ruthless execution of a shopping list from 'she who must be obeyed' (the local Tescos is about 3/4 of a mike away and I generally just amble down there, but after that dose I found myself walking much faster than usual and had to concentrate on walking at a 'normal speed' as I thought I must look bleedin' obvious at the current pace - looking like a wannabe Olympic walker).

As for temprament, I usually just think of people as amnnmoying fuckwits when they do things like barge into checkout lines, but under the influence I was doing the crappiest whisper going as everyone in the queue could hear me expressing my oipinions (including the couple who just waltzed past the queue to the checkout); I know they heard as the bloke was giving me some dirty looks. I'm glad I didn't use any higher of a dose as I think my normal temprament would have completely vanished and I might have done/said something I'd have later regretted horribly (like laid a 'Glasgow kiss' on the bloke for his agressive looks towards me). That's so far out of character for me that it stood out by a mile.


'Glasgow kiss' - a sudden, explosive headbutt that turns noses into bloody sponges in an instant
 
^ LMAO.

If I had to summarize my impression of you through your posts, it would be something like," FnB's life as a Queen music video" =D.

You seem to do a lot of... 'elated'.... shopping ;).
 
^ That's because I used to do a lot of stoned shopping and would end up buying far too much food (still ate it though - oink oink! =D), spending a fortune and crippling myself taking it all home. The calories expended carrying it home came nowhere near the amount absorbed from said food (remember I was stoned, every other item had to contain either chocolate or coconut!) & I was well on the road to being a chubby little fucker.

Conversely, doing the same on speed or assorted stimulants meant I wasn't hungry and behaving like someone with Prader-Willi disease (look it up, it's one of those 'if there's a god, how could he allow this to happen' sort of conditions), only buying what's needed, efficiently at that. The drawback is that during moments that aren't smoothly flowing - bottlenecks like checkouts, counters on bakery departments etc - I feel my 'Mr Hyde' persona becoming the dominant one (I don't mean schizophrenic, multiple distinct individuals, more what sort of an attitude to adopt to the situation, from previous experience); such as not just thinking "for fuck's sake, just pick one sodding loaf & fuck off out of it" as someone a couple of places in front blantently fondles bread, but finding that you're saying it to anybody nearby who might listen in an effort to make them hurry up. When you're stoned such things don't bother you, instead it's seen as just another part of life's rich tapestry: This (pseudotropyl 4-fluorobenzoate ) stuff is very much in the Evil Sir Jasper camp rather than the Friendly Village Idiot one that cannabis inhabits.

Best thing I've ever come across for shopping is 2C-T-21, possibly with a pinch of stimulant thrown in. With that combo, I suddenly 'got' what women mean by retail therapy! Believe me, without such pharmacological treatment I put shopping in the 'root canal with insufficient anaesthetic' class


As for my life on video, it's not a Queen video, more Mr Bean interspersed with the odd attack of the Basil Fawlties (or occasionally an Aphex Twin - Come to Daddy video day)! =D
 
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