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3-pseudotropyl 4-fluorobenzoate freebase?

You'd need to dissolve it in a solution of some sort. Is it fat-soluble? If so, milk works fine (it works ok with benzos). Putting it in a cap and shoving it there is not the most efficient way of taking any drug rectally.
 
Heh, i don't know if its fat soluble, usually its ok if you just mix it well in a pipette and well... 'serve' :D

I'll try milk tho, thanks for the tip.
 
I wonder, F&B has had some contact with the stuff, so I wonder what salt it was? I'm surprised it hydrolized so easily. I mean, cocaine is, if anything, less stable and you make the hydrochloride of that...
 
You know, I don't have a clue (shocking I know :) ), I simply got a couple of grams sample from a friend, but once I discovreed that it brought out my 'Mr Hyde', just like coke, I gave the rest away to other people who would appreciate it more.

#I'll try & find out which salt it was from my friend
 
Two subjects recently ate 50mg of the freebase. It was definitely active, but neither of them found it particularly interesting. Onset took about an hour, and the effects lasted about 3 hours, with some residual stimulation making sleep a bit difficult. One of them likened it to taking a bit too much pseudoephedrine.
 
^ But besides the residual overstimulation which can easily be remedied with benzos, was there the "OMG I'M ALL ALONE IN THE WORLD IM GONNA KILL MYSELF BECAUSE THEY"RE ALL AFTER ME OMG I'M SO LONELY!!!11!!!" feeling that coke gives during the comedown?

Too much pseudoephedrine. Lmao.

If I do get the chance to sample this, rectal (perhaps in soln. with tartatic or citric acid) will be my way to go...
 
Isnt freebase too corrosive due to its basicity? Rectum lining will be a pain if it is, in my humble opinion
 
^ Thus the addition of the acid. To my understanding of this thread, people are unable to make dry salts. However, an aqueous salt is fine for rectal administration...

I would like to know more about that though (both the base alone and the salt problem here).
 
To say there was a comedown would imply there was a high to begin with. :) No anxiety problems noted.

Just for the heck of it, I just tried to get a bit into solution with DH2O and tartaric acid, and it didn't work. But I have little experience with chemistry, and perhaps did something wrong.
 
Yes, it's like cocaine, but had more serotonogic activity with the para-fluoro group. Some people liked it better than coke - probably a matter of what you're expecting from it.

As for subjective effects - it turned me into just as big a fuckwit as cocaine does. Most coke users would probably be happy with it (and due to it's lack of local anaesthetic activity, it's less cardiotoxic)
 
of course 50mg oral did not do much of anything

one would suspect at least 100mg, if not even twice that, to really be at all effective via that route with this agent
 
I seem to remember someone posting that if the 2 (methyl ester) of cocaine is replaced with a methyl group, then the thing is a lot stronger and obviously more stable. Yes, still an analogue, but in the UK at least it wouldn't fall under any legal control. I happen to know the UK police are very lax at testing seized goods for unexpected componants. I asked a forensic toxicologist if they ever checked for fentanyl or similar in heroin overdose autopsys. She just said no. Then I asked how the police would know if fentanyl was being added to UK smack. She basically said that unless there were a lot (like 20-30 in one town in a month or less) then they wouldn't find it... EVER!!!
Nice to know the police are looking out for drug users. At least Microgram and such let people know!!!
 
Trifluoromethanesulfonic acid forms a salt easily with this compound, would this be a problem to ingest?

'superacid' seems like a scary term to throw around!
 
I have sampled this compound after being recommended to simply mix a dose with a quarter the ammount of Tartaric acid (no water) and snort the mixture. 50mg, nothing. 20mg added. Nothing. 30mg added. Nothing. 40 mg added, maybe something?

I tried doing the same in water but it seems that no ammount of tartaric acid can get it into soln. that being said, rectal administration (of same dose, 140mg - much of it was a suspension rather than a solution) did seem to have very very VERY mild, central-only effects. What is very interesting is that the next day I had some real enhanced libido!

Although I have nothing spectacular to write home about this one, I will praise it for having no comedown as opposed to, say, MDPV - which barely does anything either but leaves me suicidal for a week.
 
Isn't this drug only supposed to be 40-50% the potency of cocaine?

If that was true - wouldn't an initial dose of about 225mg be required?
 
Which one hurts, the HCL, Freebase...?

In terms of effectiveness, and the pain of insulfating, i'm reading very mixed responses about the results and their salt form.

The OP of this topic said that the free base hurts
I read another topic where people were converting the citric salt to freebase to STOP it hurting
And then there is the HCL salt itself which i have not read about anyones experience with.

So anyone used the HCL salt variant? does it hurt to insulfate? and is it effective?

Cheeers :)
 
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