2ci vs 2ce (from a recreational point of view)

[who]

i have to go against the majority on this one. i find that a 10-12mg oral dose or a 5-7mg plugged dose of 2C-E to be...well empathogenic for me. i'm not the kind of person who is very open, even on a nice dose of MDMA/MDA, but a low dose of 2C-E has me hugging people and generally loving this world around me, i see the beauty of the moment i am in and can't describe it any other way. i have been to university functions, movies, parties, hanging with friends at their flat, ect and no one has ever asked what i was on. they just stated the obvious, "you look like your in a good mood tonight". also about the combo of 2C-I and 2C-E, i find it to be nice once you get the dose set up for you. me and my friends all have to take different amounts of each to reach the psychedelic G-spot, if you will. once you get the mix for you right it's very nice, you get the up beat tempo of 2C-I and the gorgeous visuals of 2C-E with a side of empathy...a combo that is second only to a few. i personly like about 7mg 2C-E and 5 mg 2C-I plugged, some people might find that too overwhelming, but i find it to be just right.

 

[phillo]

i would have to agreer with who - i find low doses of 2c-e to be fun and manageable with less body load.

 

[BongFish]

I've taken 2CI many times and have always found it unpleasently stimulating, I could never just relax and enjoy the trip. I enjoyed the distortion it made with my senses, the (sometimes) pleasent body high and visuals but always felt on edge. The only thing I could fault 2CE for is the possible nausea (I've only experienced it once) and apart from that it it superior in every way!

I wouldn't recommend 2CI (and definately not 2CE) to anyone looking for just an easy, fun time. 2CB if anything is the best for that.

 

[phucifer]

From reports on 2c-e i think i would like it more than i liked 2c-i.

Admittedly i've only tried 2c-i once back in 2002, and have never tried 2c-e.

I took ~25mg of 2c-i by divding 100mg into 4 roughly equal masses using balance.

The trip was super-speedy visual. No mind fuck, or body load.
So maybe some people would prefer that for recreational use, but not me.

 

[guerillabedlam]

What is the difference between 2C-B and 2C-E then

2cb is like a chilled out version of 2ci for me at moderate/common dosages, more sedating and a little less disorienting than I find 2ci can be.
25 mgs of 2cb is somewhere in between mdma and LSD, some color and music enhancement and some pleasant closed eye visions, everything is very structured though and rigid unlike LSD where it's all melty and wavy. Also with 2cb your thoughts just kind of zing around not really all that deep and they are kind of silly/shallow.

2ce is a heavy visual experience at the same dosage.
2ce at 25 mgs has the melting and undulating surfaces like LSD and like when I look at a tree for instance the bark will appear to be moving up the tree, ive even seen branches grow longer and certain objects form figures, the horizon can look like A dali type painting, Closed eye visuals can be phenonemenal and extremely colorful and synesthsia often happens with music (tasting colors)

 

[organicmusic]

2ci is clearly more stimulating than 2c-e.

2c-e also makes me puke at any sort of psychedelic dose, so I prefer 2c-i for that reason.

I'd say 2c-i is more "recreational" but at the same time I think people are forgetting the fact that set and setting means a LOT

2c-i is definitely gives one a less of a chance of being too "out" there to socialize


But in the right setting I can eat a LOAD of LSD and be talking to everyone around me (even strangers) and they may not even know I'm tripping. Then lay down, and travel through my mind/ the universe. Get up and instantly be social again, but maybe that's just me.

While other times on the same dose or even less of LSD I'll need to be laying down with my head deep in the couch cushions.

I think drugs like these (psychedelics) are much more variable amongst person to person than people give them credit.

 

[Jesusgreen]

In find 2C-E extremely useful both in a recreational and spiritual environment. I've done up to 40mg of it at a concert before and had the time of my life, dancing away all night while the people around me and the floor below me melted.

I think the major factor is the nausea, some people get nausea from 2C-E, some don't. If you do, it won't make a very good recreational drug and you'd be better off with another 2C (unless those give you nausea too) - if it doesn't, like it doesn't for me, it's perfect.

The thing that I think makes 2C-E perfect for this is it's a really flexible drug, if you take it with the intention of going on a spiritual introspective journey into the mind - and solving life problems, that's what'll happen. If you take it with the intention of feeling a nice "roll" like body high and enjoying some music, that's what happens. If you take it with the intention of going out and dancing all night, it'll work as the perfect party drug. For this reason I like the name "2C-Everything"

 

[guerillabedlam]

^^^interesting. I've found it pretty nauseous so far with little recreational value but I've heard with higher doses like 40 mgs the nausea is less noticeable and it becomes more euphoric from others too.

 

[agnetha]

Whatever you decide to take, be careful not do underdose. You'll be stuck with a bunch of uncomfortable sideeffects and probably some vague anxiety and far to weak enjoyable effects. If you're willing to pay the price, you might as well take the full tour.

 

[fryingsquirrel]

2c-i was the first RC I ever did, will always have a special place in my heart. Definately better than 2c-e for a light fun trip. But my first dose was 25 mgs and that was anything but light for a 2c-virgin.