girlygrrl
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350mg dxm, 12-15mg 2ce (half that if snorted), 4 boxes of nitrous chargers.
2C-E + Dissociatives
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Devo_
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2C-E & K is probably the most visual combo's I've tried, with LSD & K being a very close runner up. I tend to find with 2C-E & K that the K kinda nullifies your mind so you can't think about things as clearly and/or deeply.
Although more 2C-E is definitely on the agenda for the near future and I intend to try mixing it with other psychedelics too.
Has anyone tried a 2C-E & 4-AcO-DMT combo? I found 4-AcO-DMT to be VERY introspective by itself so I am guessing when mixed with the 2C-E it would make for a very powerful and mind blowing trip.
Although more 2C-E is definitely on the agenda for the near future and I intend to try mixing it with other psychedelics too.
Has anyone tried a 2C-E & 4-AcO-DMT combo? I found 4-AcO-DMT to be VERY introspective by itself so I am guessing when mixed with the 2C-E it would make for a very powerful and mind blowing trip.
omicamushroom
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Played around with the combo the other night.
20mg was the dose.... dose with 2 other people, A and B. B went with a stronger dose and A was around the same level as me. Snorted about 40-50 mg ketamine at the peak.
I'm still new to the ketamine experience.... maybe a dozen experiences with/without the use of other materials. I generally have the same experience every time with a variation in the degree of intensity.... low doses are more malleable and I can slip in and out of what usually happens with a stronger dose.... The low dose on psyches generally gives me a very disoriented feeling.... With this experience, although a low dose, I was able to focus more deeply on the mind state I achieve from the stronger doses.
We took the lines about 2.5 hours into the journey. B took his line 10 - 15 minutes after me and A took our lines. There were some distractions that kept us staggered a little bit. B was really sent off. Me and A were feeling good, but A wanted to go outside... I went out with him and we each had a cigarette. I don't usually smoke 'em... I had quit for a year, but recently just started smoking them every couple weeks or so I'll have 1 or 2 (Better watch myself). The cig itself was probably enough to get me buzzed, so I'm sure it had some interaction with the other chems. I had smoked a generous amount of hash and weeds before even consuming the 2ce. The comeup was very hazy.
The ketamine brought the trip to a level where it would remain until the sun had risen and our bodies were tired from lack of sleep. I got this doom feeling, that I had to express with A and B.... I have felt it before, and generally feel it... It's probably something that happens from my focus or attention to the possibilities of life. I feel that every time I use ketamine my mind cycles through all of my experiences.... the things that give me a character as a process..... and there's an idea of how far I think I can go.... and I'm doomed not to get there.... and from there I just gotta let go... It feels like I am dying... That's generally what has happened during the couple k-holes I have experienced... I'm still trying to figure it out.... It is a bit scary, but seems very natural all the same.... K is pretty dark for me, similar to dxm. The next hour comprised me and my trip companions laying on the ground in whichever strange positions felt most comfortable. I really like sitting down with my knees tucked up into my chest with the floor touching my head, my arms holding me.... fetal position sorta. Then i would flip over, sprawl out on my back... close my eyes ...and try to focus.... try to breathe. The visuals were very sparse... and my thoughts were drifting to fast into the mind-fuck to even be able to pay attention to the visuals.
B was in the visual scape before snorting the ketamine. I was there in a strong trip space, but B was experiencing a more DMT-like trip. The visual were flying fast for B.... It was my thought that maybe the K would slow things down for him, and let him catch up to all the things he was viewing.... not so sure if it did that.... My only comparison was to a strong dose of acid with about 80-90mg K. I ended up flying through other dimensions in and out of losing my mind, and feeling like I'd never be the same person again, or I'd never be able to do the things I've done... It's all pretty true though... seems unbelievable in the experience.
Mostly for me, I was sent to a very introspective state....
This happened a couple of days ago... still deep in thought about it. gotta write about it soon. will post back later to make some clarifications on thoughts.... sorry if some of this can't be understood.
... edited the fuck out of it... let me know if its still out there... the first post was pretty looped out. peace!
20mg was the dose.... dose with 2 other people, A and B. B went with a stronger dose and A was around the same level as me. Snorted about 40-50 mg ketamine at the peak.
I'm still new to the ketamine experience.... maybe a dozen experiences with/without the use of other materials. I generally have the same experience every time with a variation in the degree of intensity.... low doses are more malleable and I can slip in and out of what usually happens with a stronger dose.... The low dose on psyches generally gives me a very disoriented feeling.... With this experience, although a low dose, I was able to focus more deeply on the mind state I achieve from the stronger doses.
We took the lines about 2.5 hours into the journey. B took his line 10 - 15 minutes after me and A took our lines. There were some distractions that kept us staggered a little bit. B was really sent off. Me and A were feeling good, but A wanted to go outside... I went out with him and we each had a cigarette. I don't usually smoke 'em... I had quit for a year, but recently just started smoking them every couple weeks or so I'll have 1 or 2 (Better watch myself). The cig itself was probably enough to get me buzzed, so I'm sure it had some interaction with the other chems. I had smoked a generous amount of hash and weeds before even consuming the 2ce. The comeup was very hazy.
The ketamine brought the trip to a level where it would remain until the sun had risen and our bodies were tired from lack of sleep. I got this doom feeling, that I had to express with A and B.... I have felt it before, and generally feel it... It's probably something that happens from my focus or attention to the possibilities of life. I feel that every time I use ketamine my mind cycles through all of my experiences.... the things that give me a character as a process..... and there's an idea of how far I think I can go.... and I'm doomed not to get there.... and from there I just gotta let go... It feels like I am dying... That's generally what has happened during the couple k-holes I have experienced... I'm still trying to figure it out.... It is a bit scary, but seems very natural all the same.... K is pretty dark for me, similar to dxm. The next hour comprised me and my trip companions laying on the ground in whichever strange positions felt most comfortable. I really like sitting down with my knees tucked up into my chest with the floor touching my head, my arms holding me.... fetal position sorta. Then i would flip over, sprawl out on my back... close my eyes ...and try to focus.... try to breathe. The visuals were very sparse... and my thoughts were drifting to fast into the mind-fuck to even be able to pay attention to the visuals.
B was in the visual scape before snorting the ketamine. I was there in a strong trip space, but B was experiencing a more DMT-like trip. The visual were flying fast for B.... It was my thought that maybe the K would slow things down for him, and let him catch up to all the things he was viewing.... not so sure if it did that.... My only comparison was to a strong dose of acid with about 80-90mg K. I ended up flying through other dimensions in and out of losing my mind, and feeling like I'd never be the same person again, or I'd never be able to do the things I've done... It's all pretty true though... seems unbelievable in the experience.
Mostly for me, I was sent to a very introspective state....
This happened a couple of days ago... still deep in thought about it. gotta write about it soon. will post back later to make some clarifications on thoughts.... sorry if some of this can't be understood.
... edited the fuck out of it... let me know if its still out there... the first post was pretty looped out. peace!
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Chemical Wizard
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i know this isn't the 2C-D thread, but since 2C-D is the immediate homologue of 2C-E, i am going to take this chance to talk about the AMAZINGNESS of the 2C-D and ketamine combo. The duration of 2C-D fits with ketamine chronology a bit nicer than 2C-E does, and I find the overall general easier character of 2C-D is a bit more of a good time than 2C-E+ketamine.
I had had the best experiences with this combination when plugging the 2C-D, and then snorting the ketamine when you feel the 2C-D peaking. Once time I did this and it was reminiscent of a DMT breakthough in its depth, but totally unique. The duration of both drugs is quite similar when you plug the 2C-D.
I had had the best experiences with this combination when plugging the 2C-D, and then snorting the ketamine when you feel the 2C-D peaking. Once time I did this and it was reminiscent of a DMT breakthough in its depth, but totally unique. The duration of both drugs is quite similar when you plug the 2C-D.
girlygrrl
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It's an excellent combo. But less is more; there is much synergy. 350 dxm and 12-14 2ce is quite amazing in my experience...
Drownrat
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DXM and 2c-e could possibly cause seretonin syndrome
I agree , this combo can cause serotonine syndrom , I took 40 mg 2C-E and 450 mg DXM (I know that is high doses) My blood plesure was very high , my hands and feet therefore became livid , strong muscles tension , temperature of body : 41 C . Hardcore :D
girlygrrl
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5-HTP is your friend. Seriously, it makes a huge difference.
22mg of 2c-e alone was way too strong for me; I can't imagine doing 40mg by itself, let alone in combo...be careful...less is more when it comes to combos.
22mg of 2c-e alone was way too strong for me; I can't imagine doing 40mg by itself, let alone in combo...be careful...less is more when it comes to combos.
stumblestoprepeat
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Hey Solipsis, I'm curious as to what you mean here. My friends and I have done lots of nitrous on lots of occasions with lots of different psychedelics. It's always been an amazing time, but it kind of sounds like you've had different experiences?
girlygrrl
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I have with the AcidSpunk Winamp plugin; the visuals leak out of the TV and engulf the room in color. Can't really put it into words, it is like the room and music become a living organism.
Never tried 2ce and K but I have done 2ce+dxm+nitrous many times and that is always amazing. I found K and salvia to be quite interesting together.
girlygrrl
Bluelighter
The other day I did 175mg dxm + ~16mg 2c-e and that was an amazing trip. The visuals were incredible and the headspace was perhaps even more therapeutic than MDMA headspace.
I don't believe in flashbacks but I feel like I was able to access the same parts of my brain that I can on LSD and MDMA and shrooms but with a lot more control. I could relax and have lots of visuals, and then when I focused on psychological issues I could accomplish more than months of therapy would accomplish in a few minutes.
Overall the low dose of DXM really made the trip awesome, it seems like 2ce by itself is kind of "cold" hyperlogical but 2ce with some DXM is a lot more "warm" somehow, more LSD-like, kind of like a cross between LSD and shrooms but the headspace was cleaner. DXM also seems to make the body load of 2ce so much easier to manage and I got the "tussin euphoria" out of it too.
The come-up kind of sucked and I felt sick for a good half hour, but once my body adjusted I actually felt really good for the rest of the trip.
I usually have it dark in the house and lay down and close my eyes a lot on 2ce but this time I had all the lights on and was journaling and I think that this change in setting made the trip more enjoyable. And the music I was listening to had a big affect on the trip as well. I have a lot of pastels in my room and the colors were really vivid. I also experienced some synthesia and decided to smell my different lotions and perfumes which gave me very interesting sensory effects and memory triggers.
I don't believe in flashbacks but I feel like I was able to access the same parts of my brain that I can on LSD and MDMA and shrooms but with a lot more control. I could relax and have lots of visuals, and then when I focused on psychological issues I could accomplish more than months of therapy would accomplish in a few minutes.
Overall the low dose of DXM really made the trip awesome, it seems like 2ce by itself is kind of "cold" hyperlogical but 2ce with some DXM is a lot more "warm" somehow, more LSD-like, kind of like a cross between LSD and shrooms but the headspace was cleaner. DXM also seems to make the body load of 2ce so much easier to manage and I got the "tussin euphoria" out of it too.
The come-up kind of sucked and I felt sick for a good half hour, but once my body adjusted I actually felt really good for the rest of the trip.
I usually have it dark in the house and lay down and close my eyes a lot on 2ce but this time I had all the lights on and was journaling and I think that this change in setting made the trip more enjoyable. And the music I was listening to had a big affect on the trip as well. I have a lot of pastels in my room and the colors were really vivid. I also experienced some synthesia and decided to smell my different lotions and perfumes which gave me very interesting sensory effects and memory triggers.
twelvesevndi
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nitrous about an hour after dosing 20 mg was pretty awesome.
i got the most intense aural hallucinations in a way i never have before. The first 2 chargers: the standard reverb thing turned into a huge delay and i was hearing shit that i made in my head joining the endless delay/reverb thing and there were closed eyed fractals that somehow were the visual equivalent of the endless delay.
2nd two chargers: got the delay reverb thing but it started dropping in pitch until it was really slow and i collapsed in laughter. there was construction outside and all the construction and mechanical noise was pitched down and slow. craziest thing ive had happen on drugs ever.
i got the most intense aural hallucinations in a way i never have before. The first 2 chargers: the standard reverb thing turned into a huge delay and i was hearing shit that i made in my head joining the endless delay/reverb thing and there were closed eyed fractals that somehow were the visual equivalent of the endless delay.
2nd two chargers: got the delay reverb thing but it started dropping in pitch until it was really slow and i collapsed in laughter. there was construction outside and all the construction and mechanical noise was pitched down and slow. craziest thing ive had happen on drugs ever.
girlygrrl
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Nitrous and 2ce is a really nice combo. I haven't had delay/reverb, but I do get a lot of visions on that combo, where I can visualize things with great detail, kind of like a lucid dream but with more control.
satya
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Sorry for bumping an old thread, but has anyone attempted 2-CE and 3-Meo-PCP? Would there be any reason not to? I don't have any plans in the works, just curious.
.:Holy::Toast:.
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I don't see why there would be any reason not too as long as you didn't do too much 3-meo-pcp since the high can last a lot longer than ketamine.
Ketmaine on 20mg of 2ce had me seeing everything in frame by frame timing, but the best was 20mg 2ce with nitrous balloons.
I have never had such a powerful dissociative psychedelic experience in my life, SOOOOO beautiful
Ketmaine on 20mg of 2ce had me seeing everything in frame by frame timing, but the best was 20mg 2ce with nitrous balloons.
I have never had such a powerful dissociative psychedelic experience in my life, SOOOOO beautiful
Help?!?!
Bluelighter
Sounds like fun, i'll probably try this myself soon!
Help?!?!
Bluelighter
^I can almost say me too, but I was on a large combo including 2c-e, though no doubt it would have been incredibly powerful either way! Sounds like fun, i'll probably try this myself soon!
.:Holy::Toast:.
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Care to elaborate?