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[2C-B Subthread] 2C-B Aftereffects/Side Effects

Oh, you're tripping already?

In that case, just keep the snacks up and you should be fine. While it's not desirable, high blood sugar isn't fatal, unless you have a tendency towards ketoacidosis or something...but then again if you're a type 1 without a monitor you can't be that high a risk anyway.....

So chill :D
 
You should get a meter, IMO its an essential for a diabetic intending to trip. Ive had type 1 for 13 years, and never noticed a lowering of bloodsugar from any psychedelic except mescaline, which can be very extreme for me. When my bloodsugar does go low it doesnt feel like if I was sober, I start feeling very dissociated and anxious.

Libotte said:
Type1 but monitor broke and I like to put things off until they go away so never replaced it.

Thats what I'd like to know all it says on erowid is quoted above if its not noticing dizziness etc surely it wound have that on almost ever drug. If its lower blood glucose levels I would just eat a few sweets through out and sort it the following day. Might sound stupid but I'm far beyond help now rather just enjoy myself.
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Definately better to be a little high than low, in the short-term anyway
 
PS try your friendly local pharmacy for a blood glucose meter (unless you have a bad rep there after hitting them up with forged xanax scripts)
 
I have done 2C-B numorous times with great joy mostly. I find it to be one of my favorite compounds as it has few side-effects and a friendly nature in general. Perhaps it could last a bit longer, but then again, one can always ingest another dose.

I haven´t been able to dig anything up, so I'm asking here; has there been any research on long-therm effects of 2C-B? It's a compound I wish to be using quite a lot in the future, so I wanted to know how "safe" it was. Can anyone help me?
From a subjective point of view I doubt it would be particulary harmful, but I would like to have some hard evidence :)
 
Similar questions have been raised many times here, and elsewhere. Unfortunately there has been no long-term study done that I am aware of. Given the "shady" nature of psychedelic chemicals in the scientific community, and specifically given 2C-B's illegal status, I doubt such studies will be done either, unless something changes. My feeling is the same as yours, that it's probably pretty harmless, but I guess we just can't know for sure, huh?
 
I always take antioxidants and whatnot with the phenethylamines, esp amphetamine and its relatives.

I have a feeling its relatively safe as far as these drugs go. People have taken huge doses and been ok, its been used for a while now, etc. Taking lots of the hydrobromide salt might not be the best thing ever, but I'm not really sure on that TBH... probably not a big deal with the amounts that would be attached to sane amounts of 2c-b anyway.
 
Nothing wrong with Br- ions floating around in your body. Plenty of legitimate pharmaceutical drugs are distributed as the hydrobromide salt. Oh, and I did the stoichiometry, and discovered the weight conversion between the hydrobromide and the hydrochloride to not be as dramatic as I thought. HBr:HCl 1.14:1. So, 27.4mg HBr : 24mg HCl.
 
butane said:
Nothing wrong with Br- ions floating around in your body. Plenty of legitimate pharmaceutical drugs are distributed as the hydrobromide salt.
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right. with DXM you are ingesting way more Br- than with 2C-B.
 
^^Okay guys I merged in ttwo 2C-B threads; they may appear out of order. My apologies...I'm sure your great intellects can decipher this thread ;).

FWIW, I get nauseaous of nearly any PEA; including 2C-B. Its the same sensation as when one has too much caffeine, for me at least- however, more accompanied by mental discomfort then caffeine.
 
Yeah some people are severly affected by nausea on 2Cxx -- there was a survey (poll) done in this forum if I recall correctly - a couple of years back.

Obviously you are one of the unlucky 2%
 
I have never seen/heard of anybody affected by nausea with 2CB and a bunch of people I know have dosed it. However, bad batches DO have nausea, but I think thats from an impurity, and not the 2CB itself.

I got some pure white 2CB hcl one time and it had absolutely no nausea and was VERY clean bodywise (marquis tested also).

The last couple batches I've had have been rougher, so much so that I'm turned off from the chemical now since its too dirty with the impurities.
 
^ the first time i ever dosed (26mg HBr), i puked. a lot. then i passed out in the back of the car for the next 5 hrs and woke up feeling quite refreshed. i was sad, so sad. i think it was because i hadn't eaten for 8 hrs prior to the trip. i almost always have to have some food in my stomach otherwise i puke. this goes for any substance. if i'm hungry, i'll usually stuff my face right after dosing (i've done this with MDMA and 2c-b a few times). i almost always eat when i'm on acid, food tastes soooo good =D
 
However, bad batches DO have nausea, but I think thats from an impurity, and not the 2CB itself.
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I think I would tend to zgree with you on that.

The main culprit was 2ce............ I think so anyway
 
swilow said:
^^Okay guys I merged in ttwo 2C-B threads; they may appear out of order. My apologies...I'm sure your great intellects can decipher this thread ;).

FWIW, I get nauseaous of nearly any PEA; including 2C-B. Its the same sensation as when one has too much caffeine, for me at least- however, more accompanied by mental discomfort then caffeine.
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I completely agree... its the only thing that I truly dont like about some psychs. I truly loathe the nausea. On the plus side the very first time that I took 2cb I vomited the rainbow so all was well ;)
 
really guys!? thats news to me. I've dosed a bunch of people with that pure white 2CB and they NEVER got nausea. Are you not sure that your 2CB is with impurities that are causing it?
 
I also know plenty of people who've eaten and snorted, as well as smoked/vaped, 2cb and plenty of them got nausea. I've never thrown up from it, but I've also only put it up my nose. Yeah... I'm hardcore, but I'm not going to make a big deal out of it. My time in the midget porn industry got my nasal cavity ready for 2cb style abuse and pain.

Also... just because something is pure and white or "pure white" doesn't mean jackshnizzle. Most serotonergic drugs are going to cause some sort of stomach discomfort as most 5-ht is made in the gut and has functions in the gut so exogenous sources mess wid dee balance. Check one two. Along with nausea with PEA's, however slight, I get excessive mucous production. I cough up huge globs of clear phlegm and spit. It's weird as hell, but I've heard mention of this by others and I'm nearly certain I read of this in an entry in Pihkal.

Peace,
PL
 
Pimp Lazy said:
I also know plenty of people who've eaten and snorted, as well as smoked/vaped, 2cb and plenty of them got nausea. I've never thrown up from it, but I've also only put it up my nose. Yeah... I'm hardcore, but I'm not going to make a big deal out of it. My time in the midget porn industry got my nasal cavity ready for 2cb style abuse and pain.

Also... just because something is pure and white or "pure white" doesn't mean jackshnizzle. Most serotonergic drugs are going to cause some sort of stomach discomfort as most 5-ht is made in the gut and has functions in the gut so exogenous sources mess wid dee balance. Check one two. Along with nausea with PEA's, however slight, I get excessive mucous production. I cough up huge globs of clear phlegm and spit. It's weird as hell, but I've heard mention of this by others and I'm nearly certain I read of this in an entry in Pihkal.

Peace,
PL
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Good thoughts, yeah I've heard the mucus thing. I know pure white chemical doesn't mean anything, but if its dirty yellow compared to a pure white sample, I'll take my chances on the pure white stuff any day =D

The fact remains that the pure white 2CB I've had (HCL also) was BY FAR superior and caused NO nausea or negative bodyload. While the yellowish HBr stuff I've had lately causes nausea on the comeup and intermittent nausea throughout the trip.
 
^iv had trips from the same batch of 2cb give me nausea sometimes and no nausea other times.

For me it was dose dependant.
Anything over 35mg has me puking.

Also i puke on drugs many people report having no problems with.
Different body chemistry leads to different reactions in the body when a drug is taken.

i miss 2cb.
 
Hey guys, I hope you can answer this as I'm a bit scared at the moment...

I tried 2c-b for the first time this friday night (it's tuesday now), with beer, and a slight cough as well.

Now, the emotional downer (the alcohol surely had an effect here as well) is close as gone. But my head is still feeling weird. It's 4 days after now.

When I move though a room, it's like my movement is slighty altered, and white lights are tough to watch. In general, it's like movement is altered a little bit, and I notice hair in the wind or similar stuff a lot more than usually - facial expressions as well, when people open and close their eyelids or look around a lot - it's getting a bit scary now, as all reports tend to "no long-term negative effects".

Ok, this is "only" the 4th. day, but still, my friends took the same (from the same badge even) and they say they're fine. I feel like some sort of balance nerve or neuron related to movement has been damaged here - is that possible with 2c-b (or psychedelics even?).

I'm still tired as hell, was able to work 6 hours, but when I'm at school, I feel distanced to most things, due to this movement thing, and my generally heavy head. The fasical expression thing is especially when I focus on it - if I talk to my gf for example, and focus on the conversation, I forget it in glimpses, but as soon as I lie in bed and watch a movie for an hour, and then get up and into the living room, I'm disturbed by the slight alteration of my movement in the room, or people's movement.

I'm getting afraid here, please tell me this will go away... This doesn't seem like your usual slight flashbacks, or whatever, but a whole distortion of movement in my brain - it's like everything's slighty sped up, and also it's like i tend to focus on singularities rather than wholes. It's very hard to describe. But when I turn my head now and look, it's a bit similar to when you've just recieved a new pair of glasses or lenses, with a bit higher strength than before - that feeling, a bit of dizzines, etc. Especially when I see movement outside my focus point, it seems altered in speed so it's faster. It's disturibing.

It was my first psychedlia experience btw.
 
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^^^ I don't get exactly what you describe, but I have had after effects (admittedly pleasant) from 2c chemicals for up to a week after taking a (normal) dose. Wait another few days and let us know if things improve. You may be sensitive to HPPD and will have to weigh the risks of taking psychedelics in the future...
 
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