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Opioids 25mg and 2-3 beers

achille1

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I have been recently been going on a science experiment with hydrocodone, as some of you may know, and have decided this is my last test with the drug. I know this will affect my liver in less than desirable ways, but will 25 mgs and a couple of beers do something if I can take about 35 and feel pretty great, the itch and everything? Any help is more than appreciated.
 
Well number 1: Drinking alcohol and taking APAP is a bad idea, a real bad idea.

If you're taking 25mg of hydro that means you're taking 5 5mg pills. Dependant on what kind of pills they are that means you are taking either 2500mg of APAP (if they are 5/500 which are getting routed out due to the APAP changes). You are probably taking 5/325 which is 1625mg of APAP. That isn't a very high ammount, but when you couple it with a few beers it can really cause some liver damage. That is why they tell you 'Do not take with alcoholic beverages' on the bottle.

What I suggest you do is do a Cold Water Extraction. If you are not familiar with this method of getting the hydrocodone out of the APAP then read this thread:

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=396416

That will give you all the information you need to know. Long story short; don't take APAP with alcohol.
 
All right, so the ideal solution is just to use CWE and be done with it? I am familiar with it, but have never attempted it. Is there a chance I could just fuck it up and end up with HC and APAP in liquid form?
 
If you follow the methods described within that thread you will not fuck anything up. You just crush the pills up into a very fine powder, then mix it in with some really really cold water. The colder the better because the APAP can actually bind with the water but only in very small ammounts, and if the water is cold the APAP will be a lot less likely to bind to the water. Use just enough water to make a solution, I think the standard is 1/4 cup for every 4 pills. I may be wrong however this is all just off the top of my head.

The hydrocodone in the pills will bind to the water creating a hydro solution, and the APAP will just sink. Then you just filter it and drink the solution and viola! You've extracted hydrop from APAP and saved your liver a lot of stress, which is always a good thing.
 
Yeah to put it blantly, APAP not only damages your liver but kills your intestinal flora as well, not good....on the other hand i can totally understand that you're goingt hru an experiment and don't prolly care,i always advocate for CWE but in your case I dunno if it's necessary if itäs just a one off thing.

Iäm on bupe and skipped my dose for a week first 3 days going CT and then using Kratom and still was feeling lousy totally like shit , anxious even though I was on a shitload of benzos and booze. Sweaty even though therev was a blizzard outside, all dueto taking some compounded hydro/APAPpills tonight and feel like I havenät in a good while, Iäm all itchy already and it's been 50 minutes since dosing.
With 400mg of cimetidine takenban hour before, I got the 10/325 generic norco pills as a gift, just 10 of them, and since I know it's an 'expriment' a 'revival',a once in a blue moon feelgood moment and then back to bupe I didn't mind taking 1625mgof APAP with half abottle of Chilean Malbec.

Very nice nice indeed, good for me liver? nope,chronic drinking is much worse.... taking doses below 3 grams of APAP with alcohol knowing your tolerance to the opioid it'äs combine with once in a bluemoon not so terrible. I know my tolerance and the damage and the despair and how doing a cwe sometimes is out of the question and you NEED your dose,well in that case even though this is a HRforum, Iäd sy that not going above the 3gramsin x24hours will be ok if it's not an usual pattern of usage.

Just to hold off wd's or taper down your dose for a little while and try and not take alcohol with it, if you do lower the opioid dose.

If you donät mind the risks and know the facts and don't care (even though after more than a decade of abuse of all sort of downers my live enzymes showed up like shit and i have a fatty livr, but I blame that on alcohol and benzos more than on opioids all that I was taking that had APAP was codeine and hydrocodone and I was addicted to H and Oxy (generally got 2 pharmaceutical jars of 30 40's and that lasted for a week the most) so i just took APAP to keep wd's at bay and there was no time nor motivation to do an extraction!

Never forthe first dose at least, so as long as thatfirst dose doesnät go above the 3grams per 24 hours and it's not common practice, wheter you have a low to mid tolrance and ar tingit to nod once in a while or if you re using it to keep wd's from harder opioids at bay I can totally understand not performing a CWE on your first dose, b ut itäd prolly be a good idea to perform one once youäe feeling like a million bucks for your next time, actually I will do now, bought some coffee filters specially for it (also drink coffee once a month usually, I hate uppers)....ahhhhhh to bad I only got one good dose left,wellI'm off to enjoy this one.

Chers withyour bittertasting fun ny looking CWEs!!!!)making ratom tea right is harderthanmaking a CWE!)
 
oh you can use 2 jars one a little bigger than the bigger full of crushed ice cubes and the solution with apap and hydrocodone inside the other jar which goes inside the one with the ice cubes for 40 minutes to keep it cold, and in a dark place if possible that's how I do it (covering the solution with foil and leaving it in the fridge or under the bed) then coffee filters never had a problem!
 
Quite the novel young geezer haha. I love bluelight. The guys just asking a pretty basic question. But I agree with everyone else that mixing Apap with alcohol is a bad idea.

To the OP, mixing alcohol and opiates should make the opiates stronger. I wouldn't recommend mixing the 2, however. Just take the pills in your normal amount, do a cold water extraction like everyone else said.
 
lol, yehy sorry OP I have a tendency to rant whilst on opioids when generally I'm a really quiet guy, that caused me loads of troubles indeed.....but wonät rantaboutit.....feeling great,already made the solution for tomorrow and left it in the fridge, ahhh cigs feel great on hydro!
 
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