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Frankly it doesn't matter. You've revealed yourself as an anti-Semite.I didn't delete it, and I'll repost his many accomplishments without the 'Nazi parenthesis' for your further review.
Frankly it doesn't matter. You've revealed yourself as an anti-Semite.I didn't delete it, and I'll repost his many accomplishments without the 'Nazi parenthesis' for your further review.
Yeah pragmatism isn't something these folks are known for tbf. Hope you aren't referencing me at the end there? I always felt we are tight, and enjoy your point of view/ opinions. Definitely a moderate steady hand, this sub forum could use a whole lot more of.
I see Droppersneck (or someone) has deleted his post. I prohibit my college students from citing wikipedia but the meaning of the triple parentheses is well known: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triple_parentheses
Shalom aleikhem from Florida y'all
Nope not me, never have cared about religion one bit tbh. But I know you folks on the left get off on playing the victim so believe w/e you want I reckon. Y'all need a thread to update us on the ever growing list of what is considered offensive, I can't keep up.Frankly it doesn't matter. You've revealed yourself as an anti-Semite.
Oh cool, yeah there are some extremely salty people out there, and if you don't goosestep with them they will attack you, unprovoked.nah, not you. Someone said something along the lines of "Because I think you are a douchebag". It wasn't you. They know who they are.
the post has not been deleted.I see Droppersneck (or someone) has deleted his post.
indeed. i thought it was pretty well-known.I prohibit my college students from citing wikipedia but the meaning of the triple parentheses is well known...
not necessarily - when i saw the post i assumed that he just copied and pasted it without actually reading the whole thing...Frankly it doesn't matter. You've revealed yourself as an anti-Semite.
he says in an unprovoked attack. you play dumb droppers but you know exactly what you're doing - when people accuse you of trolling, i expect this is the kind of thing they have in mind...Oh cool, yeah there are some extremely salty people out there, and if you don't goosestep with them they will attack you, unprovoked.
i saw that. thank you.Ali, I responded to you above in regards to that article.
alwaysAlso, avatar bet this week on the NE v BUF game?
I was gonna take the time to go through all the "accomplishments" in that big troll-post up there, then got to the travel ban. It says it's being held up by "(((federal judge)))".
MorningGlorySeed, this is for you, since you missed it. Those three parentheses are used by online Nazis to indicate a "dirty Jew" (as if people here didn't know that). I just thought you might want to know when your members are reposting from hate sites. I mean, besides just looking at URLs like "fuhrerious 88 dot wordpress". I know you hate that Hitler-worship bullshit.
I think that shit violates y'all's BLUA#4 but I guess it should be up to the Jewish fellow on staff.
If I have missed a violation please send a report. I have a few busy days today and ahead and will be mostly missing in action....but I will follow up with any reported post later today.
Shalom, Happy Tue into Wed folks.
I see Droppersneck (or someone) has deleted his post. I prohibit my college students from citing wikipedia but the meaning of the triple parentheses is well known: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triple_parentheses
Shalom aleikhem from Florida y'all
I didn't delete it, and I'll repost his many accomplishments without the 'Nazi parenthesis' for your further review.
Trump retweets British far-right leader's anti-Muslim videos
US president shares tweets from Britain First’s Jayda Fransen, who was convicted of religiously aggravated harassment.
Donald Trump has retweeted three anti-Muslim videos posted by Jayda Fransen, the deputy leader of the far-right group Britain First who has been convicted of religiously aggravated harassment.
Trump, who has 43.5 million followers on the network, retweeted three separate tweets by Fransen, which all included separate, unverified anti-Islamic videos.
One purported to show a group of Muslims pushing a boy off a roof. Another claimed to show a Muslim destroying a statue of the Virgin Mary and another showed immigrants hitting a Dutch boy on crutches.
The videos were retweeted without comment. Trump then turned to the more familiar territory of complaining about what he said was fake news on CNN.
Earlier this month, Fransen was found guilty of religiously aggravated harassment after she verbally abused a Muslim woman wearing a hijab.
Fransen responded delightedly to her posts being republished by the Trump account. She wrote: “THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, DONALD TRUMP, HAS RETWEETED THREE OF DEPUTY LEADER JAYDA FRANSEN’S TWITTER VIDEOS! DONALD TRUMP HIMSELF HAS RETWEETED THESE VIDEOS AND HAS AROUND 44 MILLION FOLLOWERS! GOD BLESS YOU TRUMP! GOD BLESS AMERICA!”
In September Fransen was charged with causing religiously aggravated harassment together with Paul Golding the leader of Britain First.
“The investigation related to the distribution of leaflets in the Thanet and Canterbury areas, and the posting of online videos during a trial held at Canterbury crown court the same month,” Kent police said at the time.
The Canterbury trial involved three Muslim men and a teenager who were eventually convicted of rape and jailed.
Thomas Mair, the extreme rightwing terrorist, shouted “Britain first” before killing the MP Jo Cox during the EU referendum campaign last year.
Cox’s widow, Brendan Cox, accused Trump of spreading hatred and trying to legitimise the far right in Britain.
Labour MPs including David Lammy, Stephen Doughty and Naz Shah were quick to express their outrage at Trump’s actions.
Donald Trump has retweeted three anti-Muslim videos posted by Jayda Fransen, the deputy leader of the far-right group Britain First who has been convicted of religiously aggravated harassment.
Trump, who has 43.5 million followers on the network, retweeted three separate tweets by Fransen, which all included separate, unverified anti-Islamic videos.
One purported to show a group of Muslims pushing a boy off a roof. Another claimed to show a Muslim destroying a statue of the Virgin Mary and another showed immigrants hitting a Dutch boy on crutches.
The videos were retweeted without comment. Trump then turned to the more familiar territory of complaining about what he said was fake news on CNN.
Earlier this month, Fransen was found guilty of religiously aggravated harassment after she verbally abused a Muslim woman wearing a hijab.
Fransen responded delightedly to her posts being republished by the Trump account. She wrote: “THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, DONALD TRUMP, HAS RETWEETED THREE OF DEPUTY LEADER JAYDA FRANSEN’S TWITTER VIDEOS! DONALD TRUMP HIMSELF HAS RETWEETED THESE VIDEOS AND HAS AROUND 44 MILLION FOLLOWERS! GOD BLESS YOU TRUMP! GOD BLESS AMERICA!”
In September Fransen was charged with causing religiously aggravated harassment together with Paul Golding the leader of Britain First.
“The investigation related to the distribution of leaflets in the Thanet and Canterbury areas, and the posting of online videos during a trial held at Canterbury crown court the same month,” Kent police said at the time.
The Canterbury trial involved three Muslim men and a teenager who were eventually convicted of rape and jailed.
Thomas Mair, the extreme rightwing terrorist, shouted “Britain first” before killing the MP Jo Cox during the EU referendum campaign last year.
Cox’s widow, Brendan Cox, accused Trump of spreading hatred and trying to legitimise the far right in Britain.
Labour MPs including David Lammy, Stephen Doughty and Naz Shah were quick to express their outrage at Trump’s actions.
Trump has long been criticised for anti-Muslim rhetoric. In December 2015, he called for a ban on Muslims entering the US. He previously suggested the creation of a government database to track Muslim Americans and made false claims that Muslims in New Jersey celebrated the terrorist attacks on 9/11.
He also tweeted in 2015 about what he called the UK’s “massive Muslim problem.”
Since taking office, Trump has shown more restraint in his rhetoric and boasted about his reception at a summit in Saudi Arabia. However, he has been under heavy criticism for his travel ban, which was originally directed at seven predominantly Muslim countries. Many critics viewed the policy as a backdoor attempt to implement his campaign promise of a Muslim ban.
maybe but do you deny its point?
in my experience - and i get that's a pretty small sample - nothing trump has yet done has changed the mind of trump supporters that he's doing a good job. i've asked many what trump would actually need to do in order for them to consider not supporting him (on an issue or more generally) and most can't or won't answer the question.
i'd be interested to hear which specific points in the article you take issue with and why, jahseeus?
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I haven't really had the energy to do more than scan this thread but saw this exchange and wanted to chime in on this specific issue. My brother is a few years older than me. He's intelligent but not formally educated. He's got a big heart, he's a great dad to his two daughters. Even though it's not how we were raised, somewhere along the way he picked up some racist rhetoric from....I don't know where. He's always worked in trade industries in small towns. I don't know if 'garage talk' just eventually became part of his personality but he is still the guy that would give his shirt off his back to anyone in need regardless of race or creed. That doesn't excuse what he says but I want to make sure this is put in context. It's been a point of contention between us but we've never really had a conversation about it. Right now, due to family goings on, we are closer than ever and I sort of nibble around the edges of it. I need him as an ally and, y'know, he's my brother.
A day or two after the election, he called me to catch up. At that point, we hadn't spoken in a few months which was not unusual. No animosity or anything like that just our previous pattern. He actually broached the subject by saying something like "I know we probably voted for different people..." but he wanted to talk a little bit about it. I didn't want to get it into with him because like he did with me, I guessed who he would have voted for in the general. Then I changed my mind and we started talking about it. He told me that he had registered to vote for the first time in his life to vote for 45. He told me he "felt that it was the only option for a guy like me" and it was heartbreaking. As I said, he's a decent man, a great father, intelligent but not formally educated and has been surrounded by mostly other white dudes with chips on their shoulders. There's a tinge of bitterness to him because he works hard, scrapes by, and feels like he's spinning in his wheels. He doesn't care much for politics but feels he's been screwed over.
So along comes 45 and he taps into all that in him (as well as almost everyone he works with and has worked with in the past). He bought into The Lie. He ignored the fact that a duplicitous (questionably) rich grifter would never give a shit about a blue collar guy scraping by in a blue state. He's not well-versed enough to know that the people around 45 wouldn't be 'the best people' and how much damage could be done to the lives of his girlfriend and daughters. I don't know what issues started to affect him (if anything) before this but then our mother started having serious health issues. She's been on disability for a long time so it's all Medicare/Medicaid. I sat with them during the doctor appointments internally seething. Wanting to lash out. I kept it all in because it certainly wasn't the time. At some point, while my mother and I were talking, she mentioned that he had told her he now regretted his vote. I still held off talking to him about it because I didn't want to push it and again, I need him as an ally and don't need to add to anyone's stress.
But now he's become more vocal about it. We've talked a little bit about it while we've been discussing the news here and there. He sincerely thought that 45 would surround himself with the best people for the job to MAGA. He still holds on to his rhetoric in some areas. Him being very into football, I tested the waters with Kaepernick and that didn't go well. It wasn't an argument but I quickly realized he wasn't there yet and might not get there. But you don't need to be perfectly lined up ally to find common ground. We were driving somewhere and I was telling him about the pregnant detainee in Texas that wasn't being allowed to have an abortion. He said he'd rather a child be born (I am certain he has this view not because of any religious view but due to the fact that he has two amazing daughters and he made it work in not so great circumstances, so his view is from his own experience) but that since abortions are legal here and for anyone who is on this soil, that it wasn't right that it was happening to her. That it wasn't American.
He still closes down or bristles at the mention of Obama, he still says things that piss me off or make me cringe, but people can change. You're never going to reach everyone or maybe most of 45's base. But there are a lot of people out there like my brother. And they are someone's brother, someone's father, someone's son, someone's friend. Eventually those people will wake up and learn and grow. Because they will have to do so, if they are even halfway decent people, to look in the mirror.
tl;dr even when you're fueled with rage, a little understanding can go a long way.
But there are a lot of people out there like my brother. And they are someone's brother, someone's father, someone's son, someone's friend. Eventually those people will wake up and learn and grow. Because they will have to do so, if they are even halfway decent people, to look in the mirror.
tl;dr even when you're fueled with rage, a little understanding can go a long way.
how do you reconcile this statement with your somewhat frequent description of people with whom you disagree as "delusional"?My theory is it's a right brain/ left brain thing. I don't think you will ever change things with him, but I have found that if a person is decently intelligent, and you come at them on an individual basis, one issue at a time, you can come to a reasonable agreement more often than not.
Yeah not only is it a flawed argument, but it makes him seem arrogant and probably turns off anyone that might be sympathetic towards his delusional political views.
Lmao yes these delusional morons...
There are some pretty delusional people here who have some pretty whacko ideas...