2017 Trump Presidency Thread

[cduggles]

what face did you make, exactly?

It was of great surprise- it translates into deep interest in the photo though.
The young guys were, aside from all the things that young guys are, earnestly asking me things like if shaving my legs was contributing to some kind of ideal that young girls had to look up to blah blah.
My reply: you mean as opposed to weighing 90 with huge fake breasts?
They were interesting, full of themselves but occasionally made you think.
I went to two talks and sat with them at lunch. *shrug*

 

[Erikmen]

i thought trump won, and the election was done and dusted like 9 months ago?

the fact that you lot are still going on about hillary clinton just goes to demonstrate that trump has lost every battle since then. against his own party, no less.

i think the election is the only political win trump will ever have. it's all been uphill from there, and his presidency is doomed.
pretty funny that the "lock her up!" guy is under criminal investigation - but she isn't.

it's interesting that you're still carrying on about her, but i guess you wouldn't want to mention any of trump's unsuccessful "deals", blatant lies or embarrassing failures.

the one thing he's doing successfully is being the most out-of-his-depth president in US history.
also the least prepared, least qualified, least capable and least popular.
i suppose that's a 'win' of sorts; he will go down in history as leading the most shambolic and chaotic administration to date.

keep hanging on to that one glorious victory, dave.
good on you man - keeping alive; a 70 year old billionaire toddler that dreamed of being president. inspiring stuff!

Exactly.
Maybe because he has lost on the popular vote. And we know he has an opinion about that, because he has said that Obama had lost on popular vote last time, and it wasn't even true. Still, he remains being unwanted with historical down rates of approval, now with 33%. For someone like him, obsessed about polls and being the best in everything, that must be quite frustrating indeed.

Besides he hasn't been succeeding as reality has showed him things can be a little more complicated, just like the healthcare plan that he would have changed it - in huge outstanding ways from day 1. Oh well, I suppose that money really can't buy everything.

 

[Scrofula]

Well, Ms. Duggles, I expect the same expression should you ever be privileged to gaze upon Mike and Morty, my two ectopic nose hairs.

Dave, you're citing stuff you got wrong during the Obama administration in defense of your guy.

You need to defend him without just comparing him to an exaggerated claim about someone else. No one has the energy to rehash eight years of countering right-wing argle-bargle about Obama.

What is it with folks and that method--everybody's seen court shows, if the defendant up for assault only said, "but that asshole before me shot a dude!" the trial would be over pretty fast.

 

[LiquidMethod]

totally called it

Too bad you don't call it when those sites lie to you.

when, like trump, you simply dismiss everything you disagree with as falsehood or fake news, you just demonstrate that your opinions are not the result of the noble, objective free-thinking you'd like to think they are.

Never said that, I was just explaining to you that certain sources collude with and receive funds from the Clinton camp - Snopes for eg. Even when Clinton is guilty of something they misrepresent the facts and will label something "slightly false" or "somewhat true".

ok. so we assume that how trump is in private is truly the man he is? so all that bullshit about this pussy-grabbing comment being locker-room talk and not indicative of the real man is just that? bullshit.

You really need to let this go. If he said something like that during an official press conference or a political meeting then I could understand your fury. Except this was a private conversation over a decade ago when he was at the height of his fame. I have said much worse than that among my friends, and I am unquestionably against any form of sexual assault or abuse against women. You out yourself as a major cuck/white-knight by repeatedly bringing this up. Even women (the ones that understand men) didn't care about this and still voted for him. It is just talk.

Also all of my legitimate criticisms of Hillary you consistently reply with "what about Trump?" - not only are his transgressions nothing compared to hers, but that's the exact thing that you criticize me for doing. I admit when Trump acts like a piece of shit, however you refuse to do the same with Hillary. You haven't explicitly stated it, but I'm starting to get the feeling that you are a genuine Hillary Clinton supporter. Could you let me know if you are so that I don't have to assume?

yeah - his lips are moving

His claims about CNN being very fake news and the Clinton-media demonizing him are truthful statements.

you've already made your mind up so why would anybody waste their time? your lack of objectivity on display again.

I am open to changing my mind. Like I said I didn't support Trump during the primaries. It is just that Hillary Clinton is indefensible. I've debated with her supporters before, and at the end of the day they simply ignore all of her crimes.

You either believe that the law applies to everyone - or you are a Hillary Clinton supporter.

 

[Scrofula]

Hillary Clinton is indefensible. . . .You either believe that the law applies to everyone - or you are a Hillary Clinton supporter.

You really need to let this go.

Yup.

 

[alasdairm]

^ lol.

His claims about CNN being very fake news and the Clinton-media demonizing him are truthful statements.

no. they're opinions.

alasdair

 

[LiquidMethod]

@LM, I laugh because of your reasons to like Trump. "An asshole who is doing what needs to be done.". lol.

I've explained in detail in previous posts why I feel Trump deserves to be supported for his efforts against the Deep State. That is me summarizing.

i'm pretty sure he hates immigrants and he wants to build a wall. beyond that, who knows?

they say they support him because he's getting stuff done! one of his signature campaign issues was healthcare. awesome coverage for everybody! it was going to be so easy and he was the only guy who could get it done. so where is it? and where is the leadership from the white house on this issue? there is none.

Now this is some stupid shit. You're sure he hates immigrants? Why exactly? Anything to back up that statement or you just assume he's the devil? He is definitely fulfilling his promise of tightening illegal immigration. Does being against ILLEGAL immigration mean you hate immigrants? You're also acting like he is the first person in history to suggest that a border wall was a good idea (multiple past presidents including Obama & Bill have said the country would be better off with a wall).

As for healthcare, how the fuck do you expect him to just steamroll through the entire Congress? We've got Republicans who have been banging on about repealing Obama for the past 7 years, yet now when Trump actually wants to do it those members have completely flip-flopped. This should show you that Congress are colluding to obstruct Trump at every turn, it has nothing to do with improving the state of the country or even sticking to their previous policies. So as for his promises, he is doing everything that he possibly could to fulfill them but there is only so much he can do politically without going into full dictator-mode. So on the one hand you criticize HIM for not being able to get shit done working with a sabotaging Congress, yet you simultaneously chide him for writing executive orders.

My hope is that Trump just signs executive orders to roll things back that the next President can roll back in and then good life can resume. I realize they have a great impact, but I put the deaths of millions in front of them.

"good life can resume" - seems many of us have very short memories. Remember before Trump when the world was peaceful and lollipops rained from the sky? Nope, me neither, I remember the previous administrations getting us into this situation by making very bad decisions.

pretty funny that the "lock her up!" guy is under criminal investigation - but she isn't.

Uhhh, she actually is, on multiple fronts, for multiple CRIMES, where we have multiple examples of EVIDENCE. Trump still hasn't been charged with a crime, or even accused. Still waiting for the shriekers to tell me one specific crime that they believe he committed.

least qualified

Actually Hillary Clinton was the least qualified. James Comey stated that she was too fucking stupid to realize that she was handling classified material!! A Secretary of State lol.... that is next-level retardation.

 

[LiquidMethod]

no. they're opinions.

Well they are opinions shared by CNN producers who have been caught on tape admitting that their stories are bullshit and their executives are ordering them to demonize Trump.

 

[LiquidMethod]

To the people who are nonchalantly calling for Trump's illegal removal through a banana republic-style coup d'etat. This is what you realistically may be facing when you decide to override the choice of the American people and subvert the democratic process:

by Craig Sawyer

Note: Nowhere here does this say innocent civilians, or a legit impeachment. On the contrary, this speaks specifically to an illegal silent coup by corrupt officials using false charges, as has leaked out by Clinton cronies lately. Anything else is a different scenario entirely. Honor our Constitution! Keep it straight. ?

Americans, Patriots, pray for our nation. Pray for our President.

I'm hearing serious rumblings of a hostile, illegal coup against our democratically elected President by seditious, deep-state subversives funded by Soros & other globalists. Very disturbing.

Patriots, this would be nothing less than an act of war against the American people. It would be the removal of our boldest defender & last possibility of maintaining our protective Constitution. Under the boot of globalists, life as we know it, would immediately decline to the model that suits the globalist interest - Marxist/Socialist/Communist. They get complete control, you get zero. Freedom, Gone! Liberty, Gone! This agenda is evil and simply cannot be allowed, at ANY cost.

Like ALL military, law enforcement and government officials, I took an oath to defend our Constitution against ALL enemies, foreign and domestic. By abandoning the rule of law and conducting a coup against the President & policies WE THE PEOPLE elected, they have made themselves enemies of the United States.

Under threat, ALL patriots, whether civilian, law enforcement, government, or military, have the duty to defend our Constitution against such enemies. Some speculate on "civil war". I readily recognize a much more sobering reality: Anti-American subversives involved in ANY WAY in an unconstitutional coup against our President will be run down and executed immediately by the world's most supreme warriors. There will be nowhere to run to, nowhere to hide, no mercy, no sense of humor. Harsh examples will be made. My prediction is it will be a gruesome massacre. Why? Because one side in this conflict has 8 Trillion bullets & the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use. ?
It will likely only take a few hours. Lessons will be learned. History will take note. Order restored.

Patriots, We The American People stand united as one, against ALL enemies. We are peace-loving people who abide by the rule of law. Prepare yourselves in case this ridiculous insanity actually gets played out and the rule of law goes out the window under their gross miscarriage of our legal process. Shaking my head...
United We Stand! At the ready. USA!

I hope it does not come to this, but I also hope that the Deep State criminals will not be so brazen as to actually unseat the POTUS.

 

[Captain.Heroin]

LOL quoting Hillary Clinton, someone who literally lies more than Trump. And Trump has so far outsmarted every person attempting to take him down, including most of the mainstream media. I guess he's getting baited so bad - impeachment must be imminent..

The quote was an opinion of Mrs. Clinton's, yes?

Your "point" is lost on us.

 

[cduggles]

"good life can resume" - seems many of us have very short memories. Remember before Trump when the world was peaceful and lollipops rained from the sky? Nope, me neither, I remember the previous administrations getting us into this situation by making very bad decisions.

Yes, I remember the rollicking days when Obama took office and the country was on the brink of economic disaster.
"...seems many of us have memories." (just joking around)
The collapse of Bear Stearns in 2008 was a watershed moment that presaged a recession of the magnitude of the Great Depression and there was a relatively politically inexperienced President overseeing the crisis.
Good thing it spontaneously resolved itself??

Whether or not the "institution" you got your "degree" from (just kidding) taught you the hysterical historical context of things, if you're old enough to be an English major than you remember this crisis.

And because Obama wasn't a twit, he moved on it like a pro, calling on the best economic staff who understood which policy mistakes were made that contributed to the Great Depression and which ones could have been made to avoid it. It worked. And what was Dodd-Frank for? Who roiled it back? One was Obama and one wasn't. Hmm...?

You know what I don't remember? Large-scale deployment of American forces to act as a deterrent or to defend South Korea or Japan against North Korea. The deaths of tens of millions of our allies because we don't even have a coherent strategy in Afghanistan yet. Increased involvement by China and possibly Russia significantly increasing the nuclear threat.

If Trump doesn't start a nuclear war because he thinks history is what he had for lunch, then I'll be happy when they ship him off to Trump Twilight, which is a lovely place with fake magazine covers and white staff. 8)

Here was my actual quote, not addressed to Liquid: My hope is that Trump just signs executive orders to roll things back that the next President can roll back in and then good life can resume. I realize they have a great impact, but I put the deaths of millions in front of them.

 

[LiquidMethod]

So Congress goes on a break and just before they do, they unanimously vote that Trump can't do what every other president has done - recess appointments.

All the freedoms that Dubya Bush, Mr Clinton and Barry all had - they acted without congressional approval all over the place and nobody batted an eye, because of course they were playing the Deep State game.

 

[alasdairm]

^ you keep telling us that we have to put up and shut up about trump because he is the democratically elected president. just deal with it, we're told.

well, sorry, but you're going to have to put up with the congress taking this step. they're within their rights. just deal with it, dude...

alasdair

 

[Scrofula]

(Hasn't been mentioned here yet?)

“I want to thank him [Putin] because we’re trying to cut down on payroll, and as far as I’m concerned, I’m very thankful that he let go of a large number of people, because now we have a smaller payroll,” Mr. Trump told reporters at his golf club in Bedminster, N.J. “There’s no real reason for them to go back. So I greatly appreciate the fact that we’ve been able to cut our payroll of the United States. We’ll save a lot of money.” wonkette

I like how he spins. Now that he's "in charge", when something bad happens, that falls squarely on his desk, he can't admit it is bad, same way he can't say he was wrong about anything.

Maybe ok for a shitty real estate broker, bad in a leader.

 

[LiquidMethod]

^ you keep telling us that we have to put up and shut up about trump because he is the democratically elected president. just deal with it, we're told.

well, sorry, but you're going to have to put up with the congress taking this step. they're within their rights. just deal with it, dude...

alasdair

Well, Trump was elected by the people.
Congress are not doing what is in the best interests of the people.

 

[Erikmen]

Maybe the Congress wants what's better for the people. Most people don't support Trump. They need to represent the other 3 quarters of the population I guess. If Congress did all Trump wanted, then it wouldn't be a democracy.

 

[Scrofula]

Everytime Congress goes on recess, the president makes appointments, then Congress tries to stop recess appointments and challenge the ones they don't like, around and around forever, depending on which party has majority. Every term, no matter who's in.


THis time is different! Could it be that a 21st century Congress found consensus, true bipartisan support? For what? Oh, preventing Trump from doing stuff? I see, have to agree with Congress too.

 

[cduggles]

Yes, our democratically-elected Congress is starting to work in a bipartisan manner. That's great!

 

[alasdairm]

Well, Trump was elected by the people.

well, the members of congress were elected by the people.

Congress are not doing what is in the best interests of the people.

a lot of people think that what trump is doing is not in the best interests of the people.

you can't have your cake and eat it (again).

alasdair

 

[cj]

Trump may vary well miscalculate and start a war with China. People laughing off the NK situation need to remember we don't have a rational leader in control for the first time.