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There is no point in comparing the Australian and US Governments because one is parliamentary based and the other is a presidential republic. Passing legislation in a parliamentary system where ruling coalitions have to be built makes it much easier than having two forces always at loggerheads. It would be great if the two independent senators Angus King and Bernie Sanders, along with an independent Lisa Murkowski and Susan Collins wouldn't caucus with either party but that will never happen because of committee assignments and seniority and would make it very difficult to bring home the bacon.
 
I never hated Bush. He was a suckass president, but I couldn't hate him. Cause I honestly never thought of him as a bad person. Just a stupid one.

I hate trump. He's a horrible person.
 
I never hated Bush. He was a suckass president, but I couldn't hate him. Cause I honestly never thought of him as a bad person. Just a stupid one.

I hate trump. He's a horrible person.

I feel the same way. Bush was misguided but generally wanted to do what was right. Trump is a different story. I sense true evil in him
 
Trump says he'll declare the US opioid crisis a national emergency 'next week'

Donald Trump on Monday teased a long-awaited announcement on tackling the crisis of opioid addiction. He also suggested his choice to lead to lead the National Office of Drug Control Policy might be under review.

More than two months after Trump said at his Bedminster, New Jersey, golf club “the opioid crisis is an emergency”, the president said he would probably formally declare it a national emergency with an event next week.

Speaking in a Rose Garden press conference with the Senate majority leader, Mitch McConnell, Trump said: “We’re going to have a major announcement, probably next week, on the drug crisis and on the opioid massive problem.”

He added: “This country and, frankly, the world has a drug problem … and we’re going to something about it.”

Drug overdoses due to opioid use increased 21% in 2016; 64,070 Americans died as a result of opioid use in the last year. On the campaign trail, Trump talked about combating opioid addiction. He has touted his border wall between the US and Mexico as one way of combating it.

Trump also weighed in the subject of the Pennsylvania congressman Tom Marino, his pick for a position informally known as “drug czar”.

Marino was the subject of a joint report by the Washington Post and 60 Minutes on Sunday about his role as the sponsor of a bill that critics say undermined federal enforcement efforts against the opioid epidemic. The bill made it far more difficult for the DEA to crack down on drug companies that made suspicious shipments of opioids.

Although he called Marino “a good guy” on Monday, he added: “I did see the report. We’re going to look into the report. We’re going to take it very seriously.”

The president left open the possibility of withdrawing Marino’s nomination. Trump said he planned to speak to Marino soon.

He said: “If I think it’s 1% negative to doing what we want to do, I will make a change.”

Senator Joe Manchin of West Virginia, a conservative Democrat in a state ravaged by opioid addiction, has called on Trump to withdraw Marino’s nomination.

Hmmm. Should be interesting...

I wonder how trump will appease his arch-conservative republican colleagues and the more libertarian members of his support base? Will he even try?
Will he announce anything at all? "Next week" doesn't sound as bold as he usually does.
I hope it's not an indication that we'll all be wiped out by nuclear holocaust next week.

But seriously though - he said he's going to fix this, so i suppose we should give the guy a chance and take that seriously.
 
Donald Trump: My Presidency Is an Embarrassing Failure, But It's Not My Fault

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#ourpresidentisahypocriticaldouche

alasdair
 
Embarassing failure, you say?

Donald Trump claims predecessors failed to honour fallen soldiers, sparks heated response


For US presidents, meeting the families of military personnel killed in war is about as wrenching as the presidency gets.
So when Donald Trump suggested his predecessors fell short in that duty, it sparked a visceral reaction from those who witnessed those grieving encounters.
Alyssa Mastromonaco, a former deputy chief of staff to Barack Obama, called Mr Trump's statement in the Rose Garden a lie.
"To say President Obama (or past presidents) didn't call the family members of soldiers KIA — he's a deranged animal," she tweeted.
In the news conference, Mr Trump said had written letters to the families of four soldiers killed in an October 4 ambush in Niger and planned to call them, crediting himself with taking extra steps in honouring the dead properly.
"Most of them didn't make calls," he said of his predecessors.
He said it's possible that Mr Obama "did sometimes" but "other presidents did not call".
The record is plain that presidents reached out to families of the dead and to the wounded, often with their presence as well as by letter and phone.
The path to Walter Reed and other military hospitals, as well as to the Dover, Delaware, Air Force Base where the remains of fallen soldiers are often brought, is a familiar one to Mr Obama, George W Bush and others.

Mr Bush, even at the height of two wars, "wrote all the families of the fallen," said Freddy Ford, spokesman for the ex-president.
He said Bush also called or met "hundreds if not thousands" of family members of the war dead.
Mr Obama's official photographer, Pete Souza, tweeted that he photographed him "meeting with hundreds of wounded soldiers, and family members of those killed in action".
Others recalled his frequent visits with Gold Star families, and travels to Walter Reed, Dover and other venues with families of the dead and with the wounded.
Mr Trump addressed the matter when asked why he had not spoken about the four soldiers killed in Niger.
They died when militants thought to be affiliated with the Islamic State group ambushed them while they were patrolling in unarmoured trucks with Niger troops.

"If you look at President Obama and other presidents, most of them didn't make calls," Mr Trump said.
Pressed on that statement later, he said of Mr Obama: "I was told that he didn't often, and a lot of presidents don't. They write letters."
He went on: "President Obama, I think, probably did sometimes, and maybe sometimes he didn't. I don't know. That's what I was told…Some presidents didn't do anything."
Among other rituals honouring military families, the Obamas had a "Gold Star" Christmas tree in the White House decorated with hundreds of photos and notes from people who had lost loved ones in war.
Gold Star families visited during the holidays, bringing ornaments.

My first thought was "disgraceful joke" - but "deranged animal" is also appropriate enough.
 
^ it's just absolutely ridiculous now. he's an absolutely disgrace to the office.

i read today that he deleted his tweets in a support of luther strange after roy moore won in alabama.

alasdair
 
I watched a concert on youtube last night of paul mccartney performing at the white house when Obama was in office, with an array of guest performers.

The contrast was so striking. The dignity and respect for protocol that existed under other administrations has just been shat on by this slob.
Putting politics aside for a moment, the lack of class trump demonstrates - ignoring protocol, ceremonial tradition and just good manners is awful to watch.

Does he just have no class whatsoever - or do you think it's a deliberate act to give him the appearance of an anti establishment maverick?
 
Whenever I think about the people who voted for trump especially in the primaries, I think to myself, “have you no intuition for people? Can’t you see that this guy is a self centered egotistical prick? Can’t you just sense it?”

“I was told that...” isn’t an excuse. Trumps the kinda guy who can’t stand being wrong. If he was wrong it has to have been someone else’s fault somehow.
 
Embarassing failure, you say?



My first thought was "disgraceful joke" - but "deranged animal" is also appropriate enough.

It's very true that Obama failed to honor United States soldiers and military personnel who died in the wars he continued or started, and he helped create/fund/arm ISIS.
 
I feel the same way. Bush was misguided but generally wanted to do what was right. Trump is a different story. I sense true evil in him


Evil? haha you don't even know the meaning of that word if you believe that Donald Trump is evil or that he actually compares to people who are/were truly evil like Kim Jong Il and Kim Jong-un, Hitler, Pol Pot, Mao, Stalin, Lenin, etc. Study history more and stop being such a negative and silly SJW.
 
Evil? haha you don't even know the meaning of that word if you believe that Donald Trump is evil or that he actually compares to people who are/were truly evil like Kim Jong Il and Kim Jong-un, Hitler, Pol Pot, Mao, Stalin, Lenin, etc. Study history more and stop being such a negative and silly SJW.

Oh for Christ’s sake. I woulda agreed with you up till you pulling that stupid SJW shit out. Im sure you don’t care but I honestly lose huge respect for anyone who uses that acronym. It’s retarded.

Trumps a bad guy. He’s not pure evil no. But he’s a nasty asshole who is wrapped up in his own ego.
 
There is no such thing as "evil".

Dismissing trump's inadequacy as a human - and utter incompetence politically - by comparing him to a bunch of mass murdering dictators doesn't really say much in his favour - nor does it excuse his deliberate destruction of the US health system, his war mongering or his general skeeziness.
 
There is such a thing as pure evil. Some humans ARE evil. It’s rare, fortunately it’s very rare. But it exists.

Trumps not it though.
 
If you hate him so much why not move back to the UK? I'll be moving to the USA and getting citizenship there.
”why don’t you leave” is such a lazy cop out.

i’m a u.s. citizen and the u.s. is my home. why should i leave just because the president is a douche?

alasdair
 
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It's very true that Obama failed to honor United States soldiers and military personnel who died in the wars he continued or started, and he helped create/fund/arm ISIS.

Do you have a source or any evidence for that claim?

Obama has never publicly said the sort of things trump said to the Khan family in the election campaign.
Remember that? The dog-whistled anti-muslim bigotry that he used as a put-down directed at a dead soldiers parents?

Unsupported claims about obama don't mean anything. Trump is a disgrace, and his rusted-on supporters are struggling even more to say anything positive about the guy.

Actually - you guys seem to have given up trying to find nice things to say about trump altogether.
Funny that :D
 
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