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2011-2012 college football thread v. SEC circle jerk

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Bit riled up aren't we. SEC offenses are most certainly worse than Big12 offenses. Georgia is the first on the board for the SEC at #29 in terms of total yardage, which while not perfect, is a pretty good measure of how good an offense is. Here is a look at the top 5:
Houston, Baylor, Ore, OkSt, Oklahoma

So, with 4/5 Big12 teams in the top 5 for total yardage, and SEC having only 4 teams in the top 50 shows that SEC offense certainly not that good, and that putting up good defensive stats and play against such offenses isn't exceedingly impressive.

Just looking at the ORE vs LSU stats you can see that Oregon beat themselves. 12 penalties for -95 yards. 4 turnovers. LSU only had 243 total yards of offense. You can say LSU just plays such outstanding defense, or you can say Oregon wasn't ready to play LSU at LSU, and made a ton of critical mistakes. Oregon racked up 334 and 27 points. Without all those mistakes for Oregon the game would have looked much different. Yea LSU has a good defense, but is it that good, or did Oregon shoot themselves in the leg? Impossible to tell when you have LSU playing a NC game against someone they already beat, and whose offense is almost purely 1 dimensional.

None of the other games are you listed are that impressive considering the Avg pts allowed by the teams beat by SEC teams is pretty much within a touchdown of what those SEC teams actually scored.

I'm sure you didn't see much pressure from Big12 defenses because you probably didn't watch very many Big12 games. I think the bowl games will settle our argument for one way or the other somewhat. Too bad the NC game won't settle shit. Naturally a play off system would settle things on the field the best.
 
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Shimmer.Fade said:
Here is a look at the top 5:
Houston, Baylor, Ore, OkSt, Oklahoma

So, with 4/5 Big12 teams in the top 5 for total yardage, .
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just cuz houston is in Texas doesnt mean they're in the Big12

C-USA i believe

nbd;js


and it mighta been nice to see Okie St. play LSU but i think Bama was prob a better team then OSU and i think they'll make it a more interesting game,

and im not an SEC homer, im from Big 12 country

i know your in Germany but if i remember correctly you're a sooner right? not that it matters im just curious.
 
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I'm proud to call myself a SEC fan, but you don't need to be living in the American South to know there is something wrong with the BCS and NCAA when ACC fans and Big 10 and PAC 12 fans can live among us as worthy equals, but our own children cannot compete in a playoff, or even have real humans decide the top 10.

As President of the NCAA I'll stop this ridiculous war on over signing, pay for play, and graft. Money and bribery made the NCAA strong, and will make her strong again.

I'm Kenickie. Vote for me in 2012, and I'll promise to get some shit Big 10 team to the NC to get shit on by the SEC.
 
So Gus Malzahn leaves the Auburn OC job to be the head coach at Arkansas State. Really? Bye bye Auburn, hello...Arky State? Well, his wife is one crazy bitch. Damn I wish that video of her rants wasn't taken down.
 
Shimmer.Fade said:
Just looking at the ORE vs LSU stats you can see that Oregon beat themselves. 12 penalties for -95 yards. 4 turnovers. LSU only had 243 total yards of offense. You can say LSU just plays such outstanding defense, or you can say Oregon wasn't ready to play LSU at LSU, and made a ton of critical mistakes. Oregon racked up 334 and 27 points. Without all those mistakes for Oregon the game would have looked much different. Yea LSU has a good defense, but is it that good, or did Oregon shoot themselves in the leg? Impossible to tell when you have LSU playing a NC game against someone they already beat, and whose offense is almost purely 1 dimensional..
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Obviously you didnt watch the game, and just looked at the final score and stats.

LSU was up 40-13 midway through the 4th quarter. A large portion of those yards and half of their points came at the end when the outcome had already been decided. We put in our second string because we had completely destroyed Oregon.

LSU isnt like your Pac/Big 12 teams that run up the score to make their weenie appear bigger...

Nobody can argue LSU's schedule this year. It's probably the toughest schedule a NC team has had to endure in quite a long time. Granted yes the SEC was a bit down this year. But it was still one hell of a gauntlet.
 
Wow..just deleted my whole fucking answer. Bluelight is the ultimate troll.

I said I was not arguing whether about LSU's schedule or whether they should be in the NC game. I was replying to other posts insinuating that a certain LSU player should not have won the Heisman because his team played mainly sub-par offenses in the SEC. Richardson was a close second for me right behind RGIII because he ran the ball very well in a 1 dimensional offense against very good defenses.

I was saying that LSU's OMFG 40 PTS at home were mainly given to them by an unprepared ORE team that had had offseason troubles. LSU had VERY average offense that game, and mainly put up OMFG 40 PTS due to ORE's mistakes. Oregon turned the ball over a lot, had a ton of penalties, and often gave LSU great field position. It is impossible to say whether LSU is really that good, or if Oregon just laid an egg. I personally think LSU is really good, and deserves what it has earned, but I also think ORE laid a huge egg that game, and that the personnel match-ups were not great. The point of what I was saying was to demonstrate that SEC offense is sup-par. The best offense coming in at 29th in Total YPG shows this fact.

Personally I wish we could have seen an LSU v OkSt matchup. I think OkSt has the personnel (SIZE and speed) to make their offense work vs LSU in comparison to ORE. I also think that their defense would have given LSU fits. Anyways, we will never know =(. I really like the steam gathering to blow up this stupid fucking BCS system though.
 
In Cowboy's Stadium with 37,000 seats sold to LSU I would say there was a probably a pretty loud section for LSU. Forgot it was the first game of the season for both teams.
 
Kenickie said:
I'm Kenickie. Vote for me in 2012, and I'll promise to get some shit Big 10 team to the NC to get shit on by the SEC.
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by 2013, that team in the National Championship against an SEC team will be Meyer's Ohio State

in 2013, expect tOSU to crumble an over-rated SEC team (the SEC is only getting worse as a conference, top to bottom, year-to-year)

then watch as the SEC becomes the new Big Ten, unable to beat a Big Ten team in the BCS National Championship, all at the deft hands of tOSU and Urban Meyer

in this decade I could legitimately see tOSU winning at least half of the National Championships
 
LSU played (and beaten) 8 ranked opponents this season. Boise, The Media's beloved Cinderella, has only beat 7 ranked opponents in the past 6 seasons combined.

#SEC UBER ALLES
 
if anything I would call LSU the media's darling far more than Boise State... I mean really
 
^Come on, their coach has been criticized way more than any coach with his record.

There was just an awesomely bad field goal miss in the SDSU vs UL Lafayette game (by SDSU, 4th quarter)... If anyone finds footage of this, please post it. (preferably with the commentary intact-- the way they set it up was magnificent)
 
Les Miles criticized? I know you SECers are delirious, but this is borderline stupidity talking. Miles has numerous National Championships, and although the media initially portrayed him a bit as a bumbling idiot/riverboat gambler, now he is largely only known for the latter

what could this vitriol criticism be? "well he lost twice that one year, should've only lost once!"

and the Bowl Season at least got off to an exciting start. it's nice to see Ohio University come up with their first bowl win in a long time, coming up over a good-for-the-WAC Utah State
 
no, the criticism is that he's not a good coach, or a real coach at all, that he's built his career on luck, not talent. pay attention.
 
ya axl... The LSU tigers are a sort of media darling, just like any other team that wins all their games, but Les Miles is kind of divorced from the praise in a way that say, a nick saban, would never be. Saban is viewed as the head of a household, where as Les pretty much has "hold on loosely" playing in the background whenever he's on camera (eating grass, clapping like a moron, forgetting to call a time out, calling a time out when he's out of them).
 
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