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Greenlighter
i usually agree with you smotpoker, but not in this case. the simple fact of the matter is that not EVERYONE on the teams are dopers and some of them, believe or not, actually ARE oblivious to that type of thing. you can't take away their championship due to one player having been on the juice if most of the team wasn't and if they didn't even know manny was. now, i admit, it's unlikely that some of the guys didn't know he was juicing, and it's unlikely to think he was the ONLY one, but still... you can't take that win away unless you know everyone was on the juice. it's not fair to those who were out there giving their all and doin it right.
realistically... a 50 game suspension is huge. have you ever been injured and missed some games in your life? my senior year in baseball i broke my arm during the 4th game and had to ride the pine the remainder of the year. it was the most difficult thing i'd ever had to do in regards to sport. sit there and watch my team play knowing i can't be out there helping. that was probably only about 20 games or so... 50 games... yeah he brought it on himself, but trust me, a 50 game suspension will not be a good time what-so-ever for someone who wants to be out on the field. juicer or not, he loves this game and he just took himself out of about 1/3 of the remainder of the season.
what i should be saying... you can't punish the team, you can punish the player. stiffer punishments in the future could be used. say a player juiced regularly... give them the season off. then they're not an issue for a controversial WS and they have to sit and sulk for an entire season and until spring training starts back up. i think that's more than fair, but you can't take a world series title away because not everyone was involved and despite popular belief... more than likely... more people probably had NO idea than those who were in the know.
realistically... a 50 game suspension is huge. have you ever been injured and missed some games in your life? my senior year in baseball i broke my arm during the 4th game and had to ride the pine the remainder of the year. it was the most difficult thing i'd ever had to do in regards to sport. sit there and watch my team play knowing i can't be out there helping. that was probably only about 20 games or so... 50 games... yeah he brought it on himself, but trust me, a 50 game suspension will not be a good time what-so-ever for someone who wants to be out on the field. juicer or not, he loves this game and he just took himself out of about 1/3 of the remainder of the season.
what i should be saying... you can't punish the team, you can punish the player. stiffer punishments in the future could be used. say a player juiced regularly... give them the season off. then they're not an issue for a controversial WS and they have to sit and sulk for an entire season and until spring training starts back up. i think that's more than fair, but you can't take a world series title away because not everyone was involved and despite popular belief... more than likely... more people probably had NO idea than those who were in the know.