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2004 Mushroom season( Victoria)

I had a dream I found some shooms growing in my backyard last night, I wish i had consumed them in my dream...coulda been interesting...

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went out into the bush to see if i could find any good subs.. found heaps and lots of other weird fungi.. including the biggest shroom id ever seen.. the stem was FUCKIN thick.. check out pics :

A nice sub :

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Some deadly galerina : people new to hunting .. notice certain similarities to subs.. be careful

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Big fucker :

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killarava2day said:
Does anyone know if P. Subs can have macroscopic variations to the point that the gill attachments can be free in one specimen and adnate to adnexed in specimens from a different patch? Or are they more likely to be another species?
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pretty sure the answer is YES.. check here http://www.shaman-australis.com/~bluemeanie/index.html

basically if it's a psilocybe and it's growing out of some sort of wood debris in australia, it's a sub.

btw crazygav - its more than likely NOT a sub. the stem is definitely not going to be 'rusty' coloured.
 
what worries me is the remark about brown stems. Note the galerina photo endlesseulogy posted. Notice the brown stems..... be carefull out there guys.

Nature is NOT a friendly neighbourhood drug dealer.....

side note: If crazygav does have subs but the stems are slightly brown on middle aged shrooms and allot more brown on old shrooms this could be spores being droped and sticking to the base of the stem. However dont use my comment to ID a mushroom its just a stipulation.
 
hey, i live iin sa.but i gotta question.
my friend just before he eats the mushy he taps the top of it while its in the ground so it drops it spores and can reproducee. is his tapping doing anygoood???
 
I've never seen a definative answer to this question, it certainly can't hurt, but just by being there the mushroom is dropping millions of spores by the day, so it's not really necessary.
 
I agree with Jimbu. If it makes you feel better and adds to the ritual go for it. But dont do it for the mushrooms sake.....
 
For anyone interested in leaning more about mycology here is an awesome website. Go to the contents and work your way through. Having the glossary open is helpful and so is a background in biology...

With resources like this it sometimes makes me wonder why I'm bothering to pay for tafe... Oh that's right, the certificate showing I'm knowledged :)
 
p sub identification

Found these mushies while out hunting the other day in the south western suburbs. While hunting we came across plenty of look alikes and were positive that these must be subs as we could clearly tell the others werent.

Picked them yesterday and have been drying since, im pretty sure they're subs what do you guys think?
 

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On first impression i would say no....... some of them look like subs but i don't see any bruising and the stems look to yellow. Need more zoomed in pics. Do a spore print as well.

peace
 
I also agree, they do not look like subs. It is very worrying that people are going out and picking things based on guesses and little research. The only times we should be asked to identify mushrooms is when the poster has said, "these bruise blue and have a purple/black spore print, what do you guys think?". If they do not bruise blue, and do not have a purple/black spore print then they are not active, and possibly dangerous.

I think we need a rule to prevent misidentifications, unless all of the following information is given, an identification shouldn't be attempted.
  • Macro photograph of spore print
  • Macro photograph of mushroom gills
  • Photograph(s) of mushroom.
  • Habitat information, image preferred.

Perhaps the mod's could help enforce this as for Pill ID's where specific information needs to be given.
 
The stems looked all white when they were picked they've only changed as they've gotten dryer. They were also a lot bigger. There isn't any blue bruising because i wasn't really sure how to do it. It's too late now to do any bruising because they're too dryed up. I was positive these were subs as we seen thousands of look a likes that we could clearly tell were not subs and these were very hard to find (as the rest had probably been picked).
 
I think you are underestimating how many look-alikes there are and how similar they can be. If you don't know how to bruise a mushroom then you shouldn't be picking them, have you ever picked them before? Two people have said they do not look like subs, so don't take them; you might end up like this.
 
they are not subs. Maybe a strophia species. But its still just a guess.

Note: strophia species are known to be poisonous
 
Mushrooms will ALWAYS have some bluing already... you do not have to do it yourself. If it's not there (and i mean clearly blue, not hmm i'll convince myself that is blue) then they are not active.
 
1. What is the best way to intentionally bruise a mushroom? Flick them? Squish them a little?

2. Someone said something about putting the shrooms in some water and squishing them and they should make some blue juice or something? I don't mind loosing a few shrooms to this method if I can be surer that I have subs.
 
what people have to relise is there IS NO BEST WAY. Its a matter of experience, not something that your going to learn from a web discusion board.

Every time something is posted in response to a question the answer is limmited and probably does not cover every aspect of the topic. Hence missunderstandings occure and people can possibly be hurt.

With the above in minde: Squashing the stem is a good way of bruising the mushroom. As is breaking the stem, scratching the stem etc. Usualy the edges of the gills have been brushed by some object already and some bruising can be seen there. The Bruising is VERY pronounced and could not be mistaken for any other colour. The time the bruising can take to occure varies. Other poisonous mushrooms also bruise, most a black colour but some blue (This is heresay as I have not see such a mushroom but I do beleive that it occures). So be very carefull
 
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