14th Issue Heroin Discussion v. Hey white boy, what you doin' uptown?

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Please take the survey guys. It says 10-15 minutes but it took me like 2. It's also very opioid related.

what survery?

and i went to go cop today but the dope was straight garbage. my primary connect has been in class all day so i had to go to my shooting gallery connect in the hood. i looked atit, tasted it, and handed it back. why fuck with garbage when im used to the fireyest of the fire.

so i popped 600mg lyrica, 1mg klonopin, and picked up 34mg of hydromorphone (4 and a quarter dilaudid).

starting to feel fancy and i have 2 dillys left. not to say tmi, but ive been "backed up" today so i couldnt plug them. snorting is close enough though...
 
whats with you guys and this lyrica, does it do anything cause 600mg seems like a ton..or do the pills come in like vicodin and 500mg type pills....i know you guys hagve told me what its used for but does it work for anythking else? is it getting you high or just keepin off WDs
 
it gets me high. it acts on the GABA receptors so with enough it produces an alcohol-like loss of motor control and mindset (calm, relaxed, etc)...but has a good body high too. i like it over all. and it's not really everyone else...its just me with the lyrica lol. i have access to 300mg lyrica, which is the highest dose and very uncommon. normally it's 75 or 150mg pills.

in combo with other drugs it's really nice....and we all know im King of Combinations.
 
Fuckind dc has some tan shit right now that is flame. People were doing . 2 shots and seriously getting fucked up. Took that survey just now, didnt take but 5 mins.
 
it gets me high. it acts on the GABA receptors so with enough it produces an alcohol-like loss of motor control and mindset (calm, relaxed, etc)...but has a good body high too. i like it over all. and it's not really everyone else...its just me with the lyrica lol. i have access to 300mg lyrica, which is the highest dose and very uncommon. normally it's 75 or 150mg pills.

in combo with other drugs it's really nice....and we all know im King of Combinations.

first off the survey at the top of the screen..i started it but they just stopped cause i didnt like the questions

but about the lyrica, im glad you only need to take 2 pills to get to 600mg and not 10...well i dont know about glad cause i dont know what the shit really does..your prolly gonna see the commercial a year from now talking about "DID YOU TAKE LYRICA? HAVE YOU HAD SO AND SO SIDE EFFECTS? THEN YOU MIGHT BE ELIGIBLE FOR MONEY IF YOU CALL NOW BECAUSE OF AN ONGOING CLASS ACtION LAWSUIT"

it seems like theres a new commercial everyweek for some pill that they used to promote on tv and shit..."HAVE YOU TAKEN VIAGRA AND ENDED UP HAVING A 48 HOUR BONER? DID YOU NUT BLOOD? THEN CALL NOW, YOU MIGHT BE ELIGIBLE FOR MONEY"
 
whats with you guys and this lyrica, does it do anything cause 600mg seems like a ton..or do the pills come in like vicodin and 500mg type pills....i know you guys hagve told me what its used for but does it work for anythking else? is it getting you high or just keepin off WDs

I don't see many people posting about it other than Jeebis.

I took it once before and it just made me tired. I'm not really into the drugs that just you more numb without much euphoria. I used to be when I just wanted to escape reality all the time, but not anymore. These days I stick to a low dose of dope, and will drink on the weekends with some friends. I rarely buy more than 1 bag of dope but once a week I will get more and get a proper high, like today, but with a 1 gram minimum from this one guy I can't be buying that unless I have other people throwing down on it, even though the price is really good.
 
Lyirca and Neurontin are joke meds if you ask me. Never did much, if at all. I have used Neurontin and Lyrica for benzo w/d and I guess opiate w/d although I never took it specifically for the opiate w/d. I was in opiate w/d though, post-w/d. It 'might' have helped the shaking in my hands from benzo w/d slightly. It could have been placebo effects just from the act of swallowing pills thinking it might help but in the end it just exasperated my symptoms. It usually ended up making my shaking hands worse. Neurontin and Lyrica are similar meds, go figure. I have used them recreationally with the same results.

This is a great book to read if you want to hear the backstory on how this drug that doesnt do much yet became so popular.

Unhinged: The Trouble with Psychiatry- A Doctor's Revelations about a Profession in Crisis' - Daniel J. Carlat, M.D.

Chapter 5 - How Drug Companies Sell Psychiatrists on Their Drugs (Neurontin)

NSFW:
In 1993, the FDA approved Neurontin for the treatment of epilepsy. This should have been cause for celebration at Warner-Lambert, the drug company that introduced it, but the celebration was muted. The FDA downgraded the approval, saying that since Neurontin's data was not strong enough, the drug could only be used as an add-on drug for patients who had failed to respond to a primary epilepsy drug.

This limited indication was a problem for executives at Warner-Lambert, because it meant that Neurontin was unlikely to find its way onto doctors' prescription pads. The market for such adjunctive epilepsy drugs is small, and the company estimated that it could make no more than $500 million over the drug's patented lifetime. That may seem like good money to you and me, but it is a positively mediocre for drug companies, which define very successful drugs as those bringing in $1 billion or more in sales per year. Measured by this exalted standard, Neurontin was a turkey.

The executives, therefore, came up with a new marketing plan. A number of small studies and case series had shown that Neurontin might be effective for several other conditions, such as bipolar, migraines, neuropathic pain, and ADHD. The evidence was poor, and it did not meet the FDA's criteria for proof of effectiveness, but the executives decided to try to convince doctors to prescribe it for these disorders anyway. After all, doctors are free to prescribe medications for anything they want, even if there is no official FDA indication. This is called 'off-label' prescribing.

Warner-Lambert was well aware, however that it is illegal for drug companies to explicitly market their drugs for off label uses. Nonetheless, according to a series of stories written by New York Times journalist Melody Peterson, such legal technicalities didnt seem to bother the ethically challenged company. Peterson interviewed David Franklin, a former Warner-Lambert employee-turned whistle blower, who detailed his former company's systematic off label marketing campaign for Neurontin. Franklin recounted a meeting at which John Ford, a senior executive, exhorted reps to pitch Neurontin to doctors for a long list of disorders, none of them adequately researched. "That's where we need to be, holding their hand and whispering in their ear," Ford said, referring to the doctors, "Neurontin for pain, Neurontin for monotherapy, Neurontin for bipolar, Neurontin for everything." He went further, encouraging reps to get doctors to ramp the dose up higher than the FDA recommended max of 1800mg/day: "I dont want to hear that safety crap either," he said. "Have you tried Neurontin? Everyone of you should take just one just to see there is nothing. It's a great drug."

Warner-Lambert kept pushing the envelope of ethics to the point that it was eventually torn to shreds. According to Peterson's reporting, drug reps were explicitly instructed to not leave a paper trail: "Anything you write down can be audited. So don't write anything down," they were told by executives who were concerned about future lawsuits.

The company rewarded doctors who prescribed high amounts of Neurontin with free trips, dinners, or cash, essentially bribing doctors to use more of this drug.

The company hired marketing firms to ghost-write articles pushing Neurontin: physicians were paid $1000 for nothing more than permission to be listed as authors. One memo from this marketing firm read "DRAFT COMPLETE. WE JUST NEED AN AUTHOR."

the company paid doctors to allow reps to read patient records and to shadow doctors during visits. In some cases,, reps convinced doctors to prescribe Neurontin for off label uses during these so called preceptorships.

These sleazy techniques worked beautifully. The drug became a blockbuster, earning $2.7 billion in 2003 alone. Almost all of that income was from off-label uses; in 2004, experts estimated that 90% of Neurontins prescriptions were for disorders not approved by the FDA. Eventually, due partly to David Franklin's revelations, Pfizer [which since bought Warner-Lambert] plead guilty to criminal charges and agreed to pay $430 million in fines--a pittance in comparison with the billions the drug was earning per year. For Pfizer, it was simply another business expense, and a fairly minor one at that.

Meanwhile, I saw my colleagues in psychiatry continuing to prescribe Neurontin for conditions such as bipolar disorder and anxiety disorders, even though the newest definitive studies found that it worked no better than placebo for either of these conditions. Apparently, doctors had been brainwashed so thoroughly by the Neurontin marketing machine that the data no longer mattered. They were prescribing the drug on auto pilot.
 
i love when you forget your weedguy was coming over to give me a dime of some medical L.A. Confidential. i was nodding and got that call 30 seconds ago, lol. now im smoking.

and lyrica produces some euphoria for me in higher doses. but i really am the only one posting about it.

and thanks for the survey link. also, i may be meeting up with a BL'er tomorrow. dont know what to do though.
 
if its a female Bler youre meeting up with..stick it in her butt

thats always a great way to make a first impression
 
lol. probably get coffee, smoke some herbals, and go from there. he lives in nyc and is coming up to the local suny school for something...but he was a regular in a few threads i used to post in so its not THAT random
 
I mean that is essentially what you do by chasing it off foil right?
 
well thats what im getting at so if you like put it in a volcano do you think it would work?
 
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