14th Issue Heroin Discussion v. Hey white boy, what you doin' uptown?

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Welderman said:
Is swap like community service work? I would pay money before I sat in jail whether I owed it or not. Of course I would get a lawyer to argue it for me.
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yeah swap is kinda like community service expet its over looked by the sheriffs and not like done on your own..basically if you see the guys pickin up trash on the side of the road, thats swap..with swap though you have to pay to do the program , i forget what it is but it might be like $10-20/day. sofor you to be in that program you have to pay but they giue you like $5 credit for doing the work, or something like that, its all fucked up. and like if you miss a couple days of swap then the basically fire you and your stuck..its a bunch of bullshit..and i could be wrong about the whole paying to do it buit i dont think i am, ive never done it and never looked it up so i coiuld be wrong

thats why i said id rather go and do a month in county or something, they also have the week release program..what that is you turnb yourself in on thursday or friday and then you spend the weekend in jail and then they let you out sunday nigiht and then friday you turnh yourself in again..the only thing shitty aboutt that is you have to go threw the full booking process and in the winter its like 6-7hours but in the summer it can be 12+hours to get booked in and get on deck...i might also be able to ask for house arrest instead of getting locked up..sowho knows theres a few possibilities

the only thing im kinda afriad of is if i show up with a lawyer and then tell her i got no money to pay for these fines, shes gonna ask how i can pay for the layer then? and the lawyer is just my friends dad so hge proilly wouldbt charge me but she wouldnt care..this is all bullshit though cause this is my last month of probation and now all this bullshit is goin on, like i said i hope that i can just pay off the one and her let me slide on the other..i would even offer to have her extend my probation to let me pay off the fine if thats what i have to do..like 6months more of it to pay olff the 1200$...i just sick of this hit and want to be over


EDIT: i just checked the swap thing and its 35$ to register and then $10/day to do swap..but what i just read is they will make you do that instead of jail sentences and normally you have to do 30days of swap instead of jail..so instead of paying 1200 or serve 30days in jail i think i just changd my mind and would rather do the swap..they work for 5hours i think..so id rather just do that..i thought i would have to work off all 1200 by doing swap but what i jhust read, i dont think i do. so yeah i would totally rather pay $335 and no jail then 1200$ or 30days flat in jail..i dunno though i just gotta talk to my layer and see what he says
 
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chinky said:
oh hell yeah, i didnt jknow it was may you got hoff..its totally worhth the wait them..you can get ssome spice though too..i knoiw people talk shit and say its nothing the real shit but thats couldnt be more untrue..og course its not weed and it will get you high and do the job..now im not saying smoke its all day long like you would normal weed but to smoke it a little bit at night when your watching tv isnt a bad time at all. just take it slow when you get a new batch cause you never k now how strong it can be, i normally will justtake 2 hit and see how i seel cause theres been times where i took 2 hits in a span of 5mins and was kind of trippin. nopt hallucinating trippin but fedinetly gives you a light trp feeling. the only god thing is it doesnt last long and i found that if it does happen that if you eat something, it generally goes away..unless you like that feelin g then by allmeans, but if im smokin to get the weed feeling i dont want the trippyness

i just found out that i got to go back to court cause i didnt pay all my money but its not my fault cause my PO wrote down that i had an extra year to pay it off and when i showed him that he said "oh im sorry i meant to write 11/12 not 11/13..and i was like thats the reason i gavce you the amount i gave you everymonth , if i knew i didnt have all that extra time i would have gave you more money. and hes like well you can explain it too the judge, cause what about the other 1200 you owe? and i was like what 1200 more? i only had the 1200 and thats it, not 2400 and he was like no you had a 1200 for court fees and then 1200 for probation fees and i was like what the fuck? im only finiding this out now? and hes like i explained d all this and i was like no you didnt, you explained that i owe 50/month and that was it..i giving him 25/month cause like i said it said i had til 11/13 to pay it off..if i would hjave know i had to pay like 100/month beetween both, i would have dont that, thats not shit, thats a jab a month i cant buy, not a big deal..but now that want all this cash right before christmas, i dont want to do it...oh and he said he said since i didnt have a job, i could brring in my tax papers and he would cut my fine in half and when i asled him about that like 9months later he said no they dont accept that anymore
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so imma go to my lawyer and see if he can get it lowered. cause my PO was an idiot and like told me wrong info the entire time and since ive always showed up, never late and always gave money and never failed a drop or a home visit or been violated at all. maybe she will let me slide on the other 1200 if i agree to pay off the 600bucks i have left from the other 1200 i owe. my PO, he said she might give me swap to wrok off that money if i cant pay (which i can i just dont want to) and i was like how much swap would i have to do? and hes like i think they give you $5 or7/day on swap, so until you pay that off..i was like fuck that.. im not gonna do swAP for $5/day to work off 1200... so imma see if i can do like a month in county or something rather then do swap or pay 1200..my mom would be pissed that iu would rather go to jail then poay the cash but ive already lost so much money with these cases and all that, that iim done giving them any more money..this shit has cost me like 20k cash, im not giving no more to them..fuck al that
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same thing happend to me, but when i went to court i got lucky and judge threw it out and dismissed the case
 
threw what out?

like ive already been convicted and im on my last month of probation..so the case cant be thrown out...or you like did you serve your probation and like all you had left to do was pay the fines? and they just threw the fines out and you were done?

either way did you go in with a lawyer or no? and did you pay anything at all or like nothing...can you explain a little more what happened?
 
been clean since my last post on here when I copped in NYC and man do I want to get high! Just completed that survey as well on top of the page. I've tapered off of subs and haven't done any subs for about a week.
 
good for you...but man if youre clean and eventapered off the subs..dont even bother..give yourself a break, it will totally be so much more worht it..stay clean and maybe use on new years or something and then just keep clean man..

i know how much you want to scratch that itch but ypu know as well as the rest of us that you really dont want to get back involved..

ive been looking for a job now, im sick of just sitting arounde and getting high everyother day and the days i dont get high i just sleep til 1pm and lay around and do shit , maybe smoke a couple lines and just countdown til the next day when i do get high and then i repeat it...i swear weeks fly by like days, like i ant believe its already friday tomorrow..its seems literally like it was friday 2 days ago, and honestly its been getting kinda scary how fast weeks fly by.. i feel the only way i will be able to successfully get clean and be able to go back to at least chippin if not getting fully clean is if i got 40 hours a week of work to fill my time...ive actually been looking for something like 2nd or 3rd shift, the times i usually would be using and so i can just go home, smoke a bong, watch a little tv go to bed and wake up and go to work again and repeat..and so the only free timei have might be on the weekends and so thats when i might use

im not hurting for money or anything like that, im just sick of doing nothing but getting high...if i was a millionaire maybe that would be different cause i could travel and do other things but im not.
 
chinky said:
threw what out?

like ive already been convicted and im on my last month of probation..so the case cant be thrown out...or you like did you serve your probation and like all you had left to do was pay the fines? and they just threw the fines out and you were done?

either way did you go in with a lawyer or no? and did you pay anything at all or like nothing...can you explain a little more what happened?
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yes all i had left was to pay left over fines, i was on probation for 2 yrs, no lawyer.. like you said a lawyer might not be the best thing , since if judge thinks you can pay for a lawyer you can pay your fines and fees. not sure if i was lucky or not but i was happy cause i owed like 1100 bucks still. my p.o kept telling me i better be ready to pay it which cought me offguard because the first 22 months i was seeing him he didn't say anything about me paying anything more other then what i would pay him monthy, which he reduced for me because i told him i wasn't working at the time
 
chinky said:
good for you...but man if youre clean and eventapered off the subs..dont even bother..give yourself a break, it will totally be so much more worht it..stay clean and maybe use on new years or something and then just keep clean man..

i know how much you want to scratch that itch but ypu know as well as the rest of us that you really dont want to get back involved..

ive been looking for a job now, im sick of just sitting arounde and getting high everyother day and the days i dont get high i just sleep til 1pm and lay around and do shit , maybe smoke a couple lines and just countdown til the next day when i do get high and then i repeat it...i swear weeks fly by like days, like i ant believe its already friday tomorrow..its seems literally like it was friday 2 days ago, and honestly its been getting kinda scary how fast weeks fly by.. i feel the only way i will be able to successfully get clean and be able to go back to at least chippin if not getting fully clean is if i got 40 hours a week of work to fill my time...ive actually been looking for something like 2nd or 3rd shift, the times i usually would be using and so i can just go home, smoke a bong, watch a little tv go to bed and wake up and go to work again and repeat..and so the only free timei have might be on the weekends and so thats when i might use

im not hurting for money or anything like that, im just sick of doing nothing but getting high...if i was a millionaire maybe that would be different cause i could travel and do other things but im not.
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Thanks for the uplifting words man as I really appreciate the kick in the ass that I need. I have so much going for me and I don't want to fuck up again. My last run was a really bad one as I went through about 7k worth of dope! I had my best sale ever where I picked up a piece of art two years ago for 2.5k. Sold it at artnet for 7k so it was a high point for me and my business. Then I took all of the money and bought a ton of dope with it. The only good thing I did was splurge on my kid for Christmas. I spent about $700 on my kid which is a good thing. But yeah I was really high spending all of that money on dope! I feel like such a loser lately even though I have been quite good at making money legally. I've been contemplating suicide and have also been hoping that a tractor trailer slams into my car and kills me right on contact. Or I have been thinking about being in a 7/11 and someone coming in and robbing the place then in the process blowing my brains out all over the store. This depression has been fucking killer and have been taking gabapentin and clonidine which has been helping a ton. I have some subs left as well but I don't want to take anymore as it's been about a week without them! FML! I just don't know what to do with myself as I have been sleeping till 1pm everyday with no real motivation to do anything at all with my business and all I have been thinking about is the last ounce of dope that I got. I have never shot dope as my preferred method is to sniff it up. The dope I was getting was from my good friend in Brooklyn who sells weight and I have known since childhood where I grew up in Redhook, BK. It was really good powder with a tan brown look and was a combination of rocks and powder. FML I know I have to go home for the Holidays and hope I can stay away from the influences that I will for sure encounter when I'm on the block. Jesus I may even say fuck it and not go home for the Holidays....
Thanks Chinky for the words of encouragement as it really means a ton to me that someone is cheering me on!
Gonna try and score some weed and see if that helps! Thanks guys and gals!
 
Howdy everyone.. Long time lurker of this and Chi dope thead..mostly just stick to the Psychedelic Forum...I'm 2 hours south of Chicago in Urbana. Mostly just stick with boy myself. Just curious about my diet as of late.. I'll play with D for a few days, then when I start to feel WD's I'll pop 2mg of Suboxone a day, usually for a few days, then get back on D. My favorite combo is some etizolam or xanax with some D and MXE... MMMMMM. Usually IV. a half g of D will last me 3-5 days. Def. gonna try out some Lyrica and poppin some Diphenhydramine. Love reading these threads and have gotten lots of good info! Thank you! And yes, I took the survey... ;)
 
^see? im not the only one who fancies me some lyrica.

and being off opiates for a couple days just shows me one thing.....sobriety fucking sucks, man. luckily ive done a ton of running around for people tonight and ended up with 1.5gs of some fine fine bud my guy got mailed from cali and 10 dollars....aka enough to pay off my one dealer for what i owe her, exchange my collateral (she has my id right now. about to give her my ipod, lol), and get a few more bags of this FIRE raw she's been getting.or ill get a couple subs and some adderall and not owe her anything.

on a side note, there is nothing better than that first beer you have after wanting one all night.
 
Up at Mohegan sun right now. Withdrawing soooooo bad. Waiting for my brother and his friends to wake up so we can pack and leave. They're just not waking up though and I can't sleep. Once I get home I can cop, but that's about 3 hour drive away and we aren't even close to leaving yet
 
well today has been pretty fucking good for once. no real anxiety yet (its a daily ordeal for me), ive been smoking free dankity dank (that is actually lemon kush from a cali dispensary. still have a g left), got a free 20mg adderall i blew before working on my parents house, and now have a free 8mg sub under my tongue.

so how are all my junky BL'ers out there doing?
 
Meh, sub dude finally came through yesterday so there's that. Otherwise I'm bracing for the miserable holiday season and all the family bs involved. I'll take my bonus check though.
 
there you go, lol.

my one heroin connect just got put on subs, 3 8mg strips a day, and is still selling h so i have a solid connect for suboxone now. right on.
 
Shit hasnt been so great for me lately. I want to use sooooo bad. I dont have a heroin connection or any friends that are into dope. All the people I used to know are either clean or in prison or some combination of the two. I still have about 90 days of suboxone left so I am trying to decide whether to go back to the sub doc, get on done, Or go to an inpatient detox. I dont really have money for inpatient detox plus sub withdrawals are so drawn out that I know I would leave there still sick as shit. In my heart of hearts I want to get on Done because I think it will control my cravings better is more affordable and will allow me to network with junkies in my area. Rehab would be good for networking and my sex life (always get laid there for some reason) but its uber expensive and isnt going to solve any of my problems. Subs are subs monotony everyday expensive but Im on a low dose so after a couple months I can stockpile enough to not go back for a year or two. Decisions decisions. Oh well least I got a xanax bar under my tongue and some fire bud in the vaporizer. Lifes not so bad.
 
^if you can go back to your sub doctor, do it. its always a better option than relying on heroin.

and im about to get a free .5mg klonopin. today really is my day, lol.
 
its been 4 days with me too.....except i took a suboxone, klonopin, adderall, and smoked a bunch of weed....so i dont think i'd call myself "clean"

and is it just me or does buprenorphine potentiate the fuck out of weed? either that or this weed is unnecessarily strong. i've literally been smoking non stop all day and i havent gotten tired of it/in the basic marijuana mindset/havent gotten a headache. rarely do i find strains like this, but it may be due to the plant's genetics. but either way im completely destroyed; still buzzing on the suboxone, feeling residual effects from the adderall (probably because i havent done it in quite some time), and packing bowl after bowl
 
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