12th Issue Heroin Discussion v. livin' on the run for so long I gotta go collect

[fasig07]

It's weird how sates surrounding GA have alot of tar, yet Atl mainly gets ECP. In the years I've done dope I've only heard of one guy that had it and hes long gone now.

^ and in reference to dude above me goin to jail. Only advice I got is trade those first couple trays you get for some sweet shit or something good. You ain't gonna be wantin to eat that nasty shit in wds the first few days, so don't just give it away.

i'm not a dude =P i'm a chick. but thanks for the advice, i'll for sure keep that in mind. people really trade trays? wow. any more jail advice?


i broke down today and had someone bring me a few bags. i only did enough to get the sick away, but it did feel real nice.

 

[chinky]

Yea make sure you go to jail with money in your pocket or have someone put money on you books right away so you can buy commisary and get some decent food a a couple pairs of underwear and socks and a wear a white t so you don't have to wear their clothes all day long
In county here you only get clean clothes once a week and that's just the short and pants..so I always have a couple white tee to wear so I don't have to sit in the kahakis all day..and gettin food is obvious cause being able to go to Sleep on a full stomach is key..you don't want to go to bed hungry..

Here we are only allowed to spend 100 a week but I. Can live on 50

 

[fasig07]

^ thanks. someone actually told me that i should go in wearing like three pairs of socks and three pairs of underwear, the bras i cant really double up on. but he said that they won't take all of that from me and that way i have extra stuff til commissary comes in.

 

[epiks]

I heard you can dissolve tar on a plate and microwave it for two minutes to get powder ? That true?

If you want to turn tar into powder put it into semi small pieces, place in freezer until its hard. Get a magic bullet and some white powdered sugar (i think thats what I used to buy..its been 4 yrs since I did this) When ppl here in Seattle do it they do a mixture of 4x sugar to dope. So if you have a gram of dope put 4 grams of powdered sugar (or half that if you want more pure) then chop that shit up! The black blends with the white, the powder mixes with the dope..and in result you get brown powder with some black flakes. Here on BL there is a potentenation thread. They say pure caffeine works wonders. So I'm sure if you bought pure caffeine powder (amazon) it might just do the trick and actually enhance.

In Seattle powder is unheard of now. So is regular tar. Well maybe if you tried cold copping downtown. But we get "pure" (obviously not even close to 100%) its just a name. Its comparable to east coast dope. I can do a .2 shot and be high half the day where as tar/powder at the height of my addiction I would shoot 1.7g (or .4 of pure) I started having to get bigger syringes.

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Somewhere around day 10 of being clean. 2 nights ago I got a full 8hrs of sleep. Was so stoked! Then last night I only got 2hrs.

Does anyone here get more productive on dope? I do to some extent. When I'm doing a shot in the morning then at night I seem to work my ass off and bring in bank. But then after a couple months I get cocky and think "I got this! I got the money now!" then its 3...4...5..shots a day. Then I fall off. I'm so tempted to do dope again to get my internet biz back. Its the only thing that ever motivated me. Money in itself never did.

 

[chinky]

Fasig I doubt they will let you bring in multiple pairs of socks and underwear..like I said make sure you got cash on you or on your books soo after..the quicker you can buy some rreal food the better..also of they have hard candy you can buy get that..chips and other things you can eat so quick but hard candy you can suck on fpr a while and eat a few pieces if you get hungry and it lasts longer and Cheaer then most food..I would always get 2-3 packs of jolly ranchers and a couple snickers bars..and tortilla shells are key cause most people run out before commissry and that way you can trade for food or kool aid or whatever..

I can keep goin on really about little tips..don't claim a gang either cause then you get put with them..and they right and steal and time would suck

 

[gwencooper]

Does anyone here get more productive on dope? I do to some extent. When I'm doing a shot in the morning then at night I seem to work my ass off and bring in bank. But then after a couple months I get cocky and think "I got this! I got the money now!" then its 3...4...5..shots a day. Then I fall off. I'm so tempted to do dope again to get my internet biz back. Its the only thing that ever motivated me. Money in itself never did.

Absolutely. I get all warm and fuzzy and start rearranging my closet, cleaning the house, etc. I'm not much of a "nodder"- I like the warm fuzzies...
(Note: my tolerance is "medium" and I don't shoot)

 

[chinky]

i feel like i waste my high if i get all active on dope, back when i did oxys thaqt was differnt cause the Oc would give me a little energy boost, but withy dope i just like to chill and watch tv or come on her and post..90% of my posting on here is done when im getting high and my super loing rambling posts are normally a couple hours into being high

when i take a sub though i get an energy boost and like i said it has antidepressant qualities. so it makes me want to get out and be social and do more things that i puit off that need to be done, like cutting the grass ot cleaning the house and other things like that..with dope i do nothing but chill and eat candy

and what do ypou consider a medium tolerance?

 

[Tommyboy]

I spend the first half of the high being talkative or doing work around the house, and the second half of the high is when I relax and nod. I don't do enough to nod that often unless I really don't have any responsibilities, but my house has been kinda hectic lately so I don't want to be too fucked up if I need to help with something or give a family member a ride somewhere, so mostly I just do enough dope to get the productive, talkative high.

 

[chinky]

i dont see the point of doin dope if you dont get high and nod..if im not getting high and nodding then im not gonna waste my time and money,say i got 5 bags left over from the jab i bought but need 8 to get a proper high..ill either go pick up more bags to make i have enough or ill just do one bag to get the sick off and then do that the next couple days to maybe lower my tolerance a little but im not just gonna do all 5bags and basically waste them

with left overs i like to trade subs or xanax or weed for them too

 

[gwencooper]

a "medium" tolerance, to me, means:
a) no puking
b) no passing out
c) can still spend not that much money to get high
d) if i want to get noddy, i can still do so on 3 bags
e) if i stop for say, a week, i'm only dopesick for about 36 hours.

sometimes, i hang out with friends and we all pitch in and split a bunch of dope. One guy always pukes after the first line, which I make small for him because I know... One guy always accuses me of not being high because I'm "with it" after two lines. Generally we get the china white or plain brown which we'll smoke because it's almost a waste to snort it. But I don't want to get shooty. I'm sure it will happen eventually because I like my dope too much... This is why I like having a "medium" tolerance.

and yeah, i'm pretty high right now, digging reading about everyone else. you know what else I like to do when i'm high? watch INTERVENTION. it makes me feel SO much better about myself and my habits - not turning tricks, not shooting $500 bucks a day, etc. LOL I'm such a bitch.

 

[Tommyboy]

a "medium" tolerance, to me, means:
a) no puking
b) no passing out
c) can still spend not that much money to get high
d) if i want to get noddy, i can still do so on 3 bags
e) if i stop for say, a week, i'm only dopesick for about 36 hours.

Agreed. This basically explains my use, although I have puked in some rare occasions when the dope was way stronger than I thought, but that happens like once every 5 months or something.

Generally we get the china white or plain brown which we'll smoke because it's almost a waste to snort it. But I don't want to get shooty.

You've got it backwards. Sniffing powder dope is more effective than smoking it. You waste more by smoking it since the heat destroys it. A little bit will vape before being destroyed so you will get something out of smoking it, but not much compared to snorting.

 

[gwencooper]

You've got it backwards. Sniffing powder dope is more effective than smoking it. You waste more by smoking it since the heat destroys it. A little bit will vape before being destroyed so you will get something out of smoking it, but not much compared to snorting.

Question: So when you get an itsy bitsy bag of brown for x amount of money (not alot, but not a little either), that ends up being one or two good lines when chopped properly, it's better to snort it? I figured it wouldn't be enough. Usually it's NOT. We used to prefer the plain brown to the "mix", but the "mix" has been way awesome lately and it lasts way longer than the "pure".

 

[fasig07]

chinky, i originally heard from one person about the wearing multiples who was in and out of jail for a couple years and after i heard that i asked multiple girls who have been to the jail i'm going to and they all said that they don't make you take off your underwear or socks so they wouldn't even know that i have one more than one. if they knew, then yah, you're right, they wouldn't let me keep it. but the plan is to not let them know. so i think i'll do that. the worse that can happen is they'll notice and make me take them off. but i def won't want to eat for a couple days at least so trading my trays is a must. i want to get a radio. a few people told me that they wouldn't have been nearly as comfortable without one. especially they're first time since they couldn't find things to fill their time. i was told not to buy one though, to wait until i can get someone's old one because i'll end up paying much less than that. but then again, i don't want to wait and my parents will probably give me a decent amount of money so twenty bucks for a radio.. not that bad of a deal in my situation. and extra food is a must for me too. at the jail i'm going to they don't have hot water, so you just use luke warm water in order to make your soup.. eww. that's going to suck. i hate it when my noodles get super soggy from soaking up too much water. candy is gonna be a must. i wouldn't have thought of all those things had you not brought them up now. so i'm glad you did


edit: also, i know it's jail but i've always gotten along with most everyone i meet. in highschool and college i never had an issues getting to know people and fitting in with most everyone in one way or another. i'm not all that worried about making "friends", or at least people i can bullshit with to pass the time. i've never once ever been in a fight or pissed anyone off that i know off. never had any girl call me a slut, whore, bitch, or anything like that. i'm like pretty short and everyone always treated me real good. not to be conceded but a lot of people liked me. but like i said, i know its a little different in jail.

 

[Tommyboy]

Question: So when you get an itsy bitsy bag of brown for x amount of money (not alot, but not a little either), that ends up being one or two good lines when chopped properly, it's better to snort it? I figured it wouldn't be enough. Usually it's NOT. We used to prefer the plain brown to the "mix", but the "mix" has been way awesome lately and it lasts way longer than the "pure".

Yea, nobody really smokes the #4 heroin powder found in the US. Chinky said he's recently been messing with it on the days that he's not getting high but just doing a bit so he isn't withdrawing, but when he uses to get high he sniffs it, as does pretty much everybody else that gets powder heroin but doesn't IV.

 

[chinky]

chinky, i originally heard from one person about the wearing multiples who was in and out of jail for a couple years and after i heard that i asked multiple girls who have been to the jail i'm going to and they all said that they don't make you take off your underwear or socks so they wouldn't even know that i have one more than one. if they knew, then yah, you're right, they wouldn't let me keep it. but the plan is to not let them know. so i think i'll do that. the worse that can happen is they'll notice and make me take them off. but i def won't want to eat for a couple days at least so trading my trays is a must. i want to get a radio. a few people told me that they wouldn't have been nearly as comfortable without one. especially they're first time since they couldn't find things to fill their time. i was told not to buy one though, to wait until i can get someone's old one because i'll end up paying much less than that. but then again, i don't want to wait and my parents will probably give me a decent amount of money so twenty bucks for a radio.. not that bad of a deal in my situation. and extra food is a must for me too. at the jail i'm going to they don't have hot water, so you just use luke warm water in order to make your soup.. eww. that's going to suck. i hate it when my noodles get super soggy from soaking up too much water. candy is gonna be a must. i wouldn't have thought of all those things had you not brought them up now. so i'm glad you did


edit: also, i know it's jail but i've always gotten along with most everyone i meet. in highschool and college i never had an issues getting to know people and fitting in with most everyone in one way or another. i'm not all that worried about making "friends", or at least people i can bullshit with to pass the time. i've never once ever been in a fight or pissed anyone off that i know off. never had any girl call me a slut, whore, bitch, or anything like that. i'm like pretty short and everyone always treated me real good. not to be conceded but a lot of people liked me. but like i said, i know its a little different in jail.

first i find it hard to believe that they wont make you take your socks off when your getin processed in, thats a great spot to hide something so im willingto bet they will make you take it off so i guess you will just have to take off all the socks at once and putting them on the same way, they dont strip search us your put a cotton swab up your dickanymore but they used to just a couple years back, so i dont kjnow how they do it out by you...

you said you not gonna want to eat for a few days, why is that? even if your sick your still gonna want to eat somethinng but if not like they said trade it dont give it away..breakfest was the worst in county so i used to trade my breakfest for the white bread that came with it so i could make tuna sandwich or PB&J sandwichs with it later on but i stopped getting breakfest cause it was thje worst meal but also they made up get up at like 6-630 and walk outside to lunch hall and i would just rather sleep and make a sandwich when i got up..they didnt let us have Ramen soups..so i stuck with making burritoes at night and like a PB&J as a snack in i got hungry...

with that said tortillas were the most imporant real food i had cause i would pretty much put all the dinners on a tortilla shell and eat it that way just cause it was adding more carbs to help fill me up but also cause they served alot of rice and beans but people always ran out of tortillas everyweek so i was able to trade and maybe get a burrito that someone else was making orwhatever i agreed to trade for..its also best to have someone to throw down food with, so you could split up the cost plus the food off the comisary like the packages of ground beef or chicken breast and beans and things like that were ecpensive and they gave you more then one person could eat, so by having someo neto throw down with the food you have isnt going to waste cause you have no fridge..like i would throw down the chicken breast and maybe a package of nacho cheese and my buddy woukld throw down the tortilla and hot sauce and whatever else you might want to thow on like saving food from our dinners..me and him also ran the food trays (which including cleanign the tables after dinner)cause we wher just the bosses of the dorm (basically we had the most money and had the most food so we did what we want cause the other people would know they could get something that we are eating) but by passing out the food trays normally we would get the extra trays and save that stuff to put on our burritoes which could be the lettuce from the salad and like corn or whatrever really you gotta use you mind...i made mac and cheese one night and that became everyones favorite food and i did it by using the butter noodles they sere you for dinner, and they would give it to us a couple times a week and one day i had an idea and took my left over nacho cheese from the night before and mixed it with the noodlesw and when everyone saw what i did everyone with nacho cheese from commisary made it too and it became the best food that we all looked forward too..also another important thing is getting salt and pepper and mayo and hot sauce cause the food they serve is so bland that by adding the seasoning to it was huge, people would fight for my extra salt cause i would only use half or 1/3 of the package and eveyone would try and get some.


we didnt have radios to buy we just had a tv in the day room to watch then when they moved us out of cells to the dorm we where able to watch tv fro m 7am to 10pm all day long, so there was no need for a radio ..we also had quite a few books plus my mom sent me my subscription of sports illustrated every week but books are key..more so then tv cause you can just relax and take your mind off everything by reading and not get stuck watching somethiung you dont want to, like 5hours of BET or something stupid that you get out voted for..i got lucky though when i was in the cells cause i had one of the only 2-3 cells in the whole pod that had a tv view from my cell and the bast way to watch it was to set upo our storage boxes as a chair and be able to sit and watch all day long (we where 18 and 6 meaning we where in our cells for 18 hours and out 6 and the six was broken up into two 3hour shifts one in the monring and one at night), all i had to do was have someone turn the tv up loud enough and i was able to sit watch tv all day wher as most everyone else couldnt see it..the guy above me had to stand and watch and the peoiple in the cell to my right had to stand and watch too

yes im high

 

[fasig07]

first i find it hard to believe that they wont make you take your socks off when your getin processed in, thats a great spot to hide something so im willingto bet they will make you take it off so i guess you will just have to take off all the socks at once and putting them on the same way, they dont strip search us your put a cotton swab up your dickanymore but they used to just a couple years back, so i dont kjnow how they do it out by you...

you said you not gonna want to eat for a few days, why is that? even if your sick your still gonna want to eat somethinng but if not like they said trade it dont give it away..breakfest was the worst in county so i used to trade my breakfest for the white bread that came with it so i could make tuna sandwich or PB&J sandwichs with it later on but i stopped getting breakfest cause it was thje worst meal but also they made up get up at like 6-630 and walk outside to lunch hall and i would just rather sleep and make a sandwich when i got up..they didnt let us have Ramen soups..so i stuck with making burritoes at night and like a PB&J as a snack in i got hungry...

with that said tortillas were the most imporant real food i had cause i would pretty much put all the dinners on a tortilla shell and eat it that way just cause it was adding more carbs to help fill me up but also cause they served alot of rice and beans but people always ran out of tortillas everyweek so i was able to trade and maybe get a burrito that someone else was making orwhatever i agreed to trade for..its also best to have someone to throw down food with, so you could split up the cost plus the food off the comisary like the packages of ground beef or chicken breast and beans and things like that were ecpensive and they gave you more then one person could eat, so by having someo neto throw down with the food you have isnt going to waste cause you have no fridge..like i would throw down the chicken breast and maybe a package of nacho cheese and my buddy woukld throw down the tortilla and hot sauce and whatever else you might want to thow on like saving food from our dinners..me and him also ran the food trays (which including cleanign the tables after dinner)cause we wher just the bosses of the dorm (basically we had the most money and had the most food so we did what we want cause the other people would know they could get something that we are eating) but by passing out the food trays normally we would get the extra trays and save that stuff to put on our burritoes which could be the lettuce from the salad and like corn or whatrever really you gotta use you mind...i made mac and cheese one night and that became everyones favorite food and i did it by using the butter noodles they sere you for dinner, and they would give it to us a couple times a week and one day i had an idea and took my left over nacho cheese from the night before and mixed it with the noodlesw and when everyone saw what i did everyone with nacho cheese from commisary made it too and it became the best food that we all looked forward too..also another important thing is getting salt and pepper and mayo and hot sauce cause the food they serve is so bland that by adding the seasoning to it was huge, people would fight for my extra salt cause i would only use half or 1/3 of the package and eveyone would try and get some.


we didnt have radios to buy we just had a tv in the day room to watch then when they moved us out of cells to the dorm we where able to watch tv fro m 7am to 10pm all day long, so there was no need for a radio ..we also had quite a few books plus my mom sent me my subscription of sports illustrated every week but books are key..more so then tv cause you can just relax and take your mind off everything by reading and not get stuck watching somethiung you dont want to, like 5hours of BET or something stupid that you get out voted for..i got lucky though when i was in the cells cause i had one of the only 2-3 cells in the whole pod that had a tv view from my cell and the bast way to watch it was to set upo our storage boxes as a chair and be able to sit and watch all day long (we where 18 and 6 meaning we where in our cells for 18 hours and out 6 and the six was broken up into two 3hour shifts one in the monring and one at night), all i had to do was have someone turn the tv up loud enough and i was able to sit watch tv all day wher as most everyone else couldnt see it..the guy above me had to stand and watch and the peoiple in the cell to my right had to stand and watch too

yes im high

that was actually pretty interesting to read. its so weird how jail is like a functioning society. that's kinda weird you get tortillas at every meal, cause out here you get two pieces of white bread.. and i dont really watch tv so as it is, but i do listen to a lot of music so i'd pick the radio over tv any day. i'm so not excited though cause someone told me that in the jail i'm going to there's womens block and womens dorms. in womens dorms its just one huge gymnasium for 250 woman. bunk beds are in there, a few tvs, basketball court style. showers everything, is all in that room. and from what i've heard it's full of a bunch of chicks who barely shower, or shave, or do anything. i've heard it smells absolutely horrible. so although thats the medium security.. which is most likely what i'd get for sure, rather than maxium (which is womans block) i'm not really all that excited. unless its not as bad as what people say. who knows *shrug*


how long have you spent in jail? and what for?

 

[fasig07]

and yeah, i'm pretty high right now, digging reading about everyone else. you know what else I like to do when i'm high? watch INTERVENTION. it makes me feel SO much better about myself and my habits - not turning tricks, not shooting $500 bucks a day, etc. LOL I'm such a bitch.

hahah, i love watching intervention when i'm high. i almost always save a couple bags for when i'm going to watch this show. it makes me feel tons better too, if that makes me a bitch.. oh well.

 

[epiks]

Question: So when you get an itsy bitsy bag of brown for x amount of money (not alot, but not a little either), that ends up being one or two good lines when chopped properly, it's better to snort it? I figured it wouldn't be enough. Usually it's NOT. We used to prefer the plain brown to the "mix", but the "mix" has been way awesome lately and it lasts way longer than the "pure".

Yeah it lasts longer because its cut so you get way more.

yes im high

I knew it! You always like to post a novel when you are haha. Its cool tho I enjoy reading your posts.

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Just did some dope. Decided to do it for a few days to get back in the work cycle then go back on subs. Anyone wanna see pictures of the "pure" aka hella good tar we get here? Or what it looks like in the syringe?

 

[fasig07]

^can you do both?

 

[Johnny blue]

Epiks, we always want pics man. Plus I bet a lot of us have never seen tar in person. At least I haven't.