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Benzos 12mg clonaz 250mg seroquel still awake

^ i take 30mg Zyprexa a night for bipolar disorder and it is the only thing that has ever helped me (besides benzos and opiates :) on suboxone 4yrs which also helps the rollercoaster effect, limited ups and downs) in fact i just took it a half hour ago. it doesn't make me tired anymore (been on it [zyprexa] 3 years) i take it and then stay up all night and sleep in the mornings lol. im weird.

Zyprexa is indicated for bipolar disorder so it would make sense that it is beneficial for you. Also, you imply that other alternatives were explored. Perhaps this is unique to where I live but honestly neurolyptics are given out in place of pretty much every requested medication, and sometimes food in psychiatric units, geriatric units, nursing homes and prisons.

(anorexic patient to nurse "may I have a carton of milk i cant sleep and it usually helps" nurse to anorexic patient: "its not ordered but you can have quetiapine" :X)

if the benefit outweighs the risk of one taking a medication then of course, take it! But the patient should have a role in making that determination

On another note Im STILL awake. Risperidone and Clonazepam and Trazadone and Zopiclone are starting to seem friendly
 
Trazodone works for my sleep as I'm prescribed clonazepam and that never helps me sleep but the trazodone works great. seroquel does not work for me at all when it comes to sleep. it basically comes down to the individual in most cases so explore with your doctor. I also smoke cannabis and it can help but never helps me sleep as I'm an everyday smoker,just works as an anti-anxiety/pain medication but always makes me want to stay up and enjoy the way I feel. been on all the benzo's alot of tranquilizers and clonazepam is the best for benzo's (FOR ME),,xanax a close 2nd but try 100 mg trazodone and see if it helps cause it was way stronger than those high 300 mg xr seroquel tabs i had for a few months. ps..i've been on some anti-depressants and they make me feel jacked up...i've been on celexa, cmybalta, paxil, smybyax,zyprexa and that's when i started the benzo's
 
if you can be bothered slowpoke, what do you think about the best way to dose clonazepam? and how much experience have you had with seroquel?

well obviously the best way to dose clonazepams is to take as directed,,but saying that i dont take as directed all the time ,,i like to take 12 mg sometimes to feel half assed and on other occations i like to take say 20 mgs of clonazepams,,then i take them as directed as to not run out ,because believe me after being on a bunch of pills for at least 15 years i get major WDs specialy from clonazepams ,like violent spasms,,or some people refer to them as siezures,i actualy hurt my self alot when spazing out ,,also everytime i have a part of my body spaz it hurts terribly,,my temazepams i ussualy run out fairley quik cause i like to take at least 5 at a time which is 150mgssometimes even 300mgs,,till there gone,,simply because my tolerance to them is very high,my experience with seroquel is about 20 years on the shit,,i ussualy take between 2 and 4 200mg pills along with the clonezepams if i want to sleep fairly sound,,though i have taken all the way up to 8 200 mg seroquels to try and sleep when my insomnias bad,,if ya had any specific questions about it message me ,,hope i helped a bit,,,
 
Thanks for the info mate. really big help what you said about seroquel and i can relate to being on clonazapams because i don't even know i'm on a benzo and i know there is 0% chance anxiety attacks and a very very small chance of any anxiety at all.

could you be an clonazzz as required, like taken only as needed,,,, there'd have to be some sort of line to cross as in the number of days you can take it consecutive without and benzo WD symptoms. I'm on it everyday atm but plan to eventually use it as needed as opposed to everyday. i just hope it doesn't fuck with my tolerance.

I think clonazepam has similarity with buprenorphine... similar HL(i'm going to check later) there is ceiling dose with bupreorphine and the saying with bupe is... "more is less" i wonder if applies to clonazepam? i know there's not much difference taking 2mg to taking 10mg. i haven't come across a benzo like this. Temazepam is the closest example, but still thats different because temaze used to rock me nicely. the irony is though i tried and tried to get clonazepam for a year and when i finally got it, as much as it is effective for anxiety, i felt let down. because i tell you 50mg of diazepam would make me feel nice and relaxed and a little heavy, it made me feel recreational, where as say 6mg of clonazepam has been barely noticeable.... by itself... its probably not a good example because i'm on suboxone and i think they have a bond and synergise nice. but i would kill for a bottle of diazepam right now, just hope the clonazepam hasn't raped my tolerance.
I don't feel like it has and i can jump down to 6mg a day with no discomfort at all

if you can be bothered slowpoke, what do you think about the best way to dose clonazepam? and how much experience have you had with seroquel?

(SLOWPOKE)
well obviously the best way to dose clonazepams is to take as directed,,but saying that i dont take as directed all the time ,,i like to take 12 mg sometimes to feel half assed and on other occations i like to take say 20 mgs of clonazepams,,then i take them as directed as to not run out ,because believe me after being on a bunch of pills for at least 15 years i get major WDs specialy from clonazepams ,like violent spasms,,or some people refer to them as siezures,i actualy hurt my self alot when spazing out ,,also everytime i have a part of my body spaz it hurts terribly,,my temazepams i ussualy run out fairley quik cause i like to take at least 5 at a time which is 150mgssometimes even 300mgs,,till there gone,,simply because my tolerance to them is very high,my experience with seroquel is about 20 years on the shit,,i ussualy take between 2 and 4 200mg pills along with the clonezepams if i want to sleep fairly sound,,though i have taken all the way up to 8 200 mg seroquels to try and sleep when my insomnias bad,,if ya had any specific questions about it message me ,,hope i helped a bit,,,
 
^ i take 30mg Zyprexa a night for bipolar disorder and it is the only thing that has ever helped me (besides benzos and opiates :) on suboxone 4yrs which also helps the rollercoaster effect, limited ups and downs) in fact i just took it a half hour ago. it doesn't make me tired anymore (been on it [zyprexa] 3 years) i take it and then stay up all night and sleep in the mornings lol. im weird.
not neccesarily wierd all my life on and off drugs ,,all types ,,i have always found that i can always fall asleep at around 6 in the morning ,i ussualy have to fighte it off for awhile or just get up and start the coffee or something ,,,,this has been my whole life ,,it also goes for sleeping at night ,i have no idea why but i always have gotten tired to the point where i can sleep at around 6 at night to ,,but who wants to sleep at 6 it fucks everything up but thats the way its been my whole life,,
 
I was Rx'd Seroquel before for sleep even though its a Anti-psychotic drug. Said 25mg-50mg for insomnia. As i got used to it i would take 50-150mgs then eventually sometimes 200mg. @ the time i was also on Clonazepam and still am. Its tolerance, when I got used to it i would take 50-100mgs of seroquel and about 3-4mgs of clonazepam in the day just for a buzz, that was dumb i just take clonazepam now and still tapering.
 
Be careful with the clonaz bro, if you're anything like me it'll fuck up your life faster than anything else and you wont care until you run out.
 
I can take about 8 clonos at work and be completely fine. In fact I need to take that many just to get me through the day. However the doctors out here are getting more and more reluctunt to perscribe ANY benzo.
 
I can take about 8 clonos at work and be completely fine. In fact I need to take that many just to get me through the day. However the doctors out here are getting more and more reluctunt to perscribe ANY benzo.
Im guessing ya ment 8 mg of clonazepams instead of 8 2mg clonazepams which would be 16mgs,,i find that highly doubtfull you need 16mgs of clonepams to get you threw the day,ill even take it a step ferthur and say i highly doubt your perscribed 8 2mg clonazepams a day period , a shrink ussualy will only go as high as perscribeing 4 2mg clonez a day and thats pushin it ,,ussualy the dose they will give as a high dose for a shrink is 6 mgs of clonazepams daily and thats 3 times a day 0f 2mgs or if needed,though i do know there are many scripting out 4 2mg clonez a day but thats about it unles you have a crooked shrink ,,if a shrink is found to be giving 8 2mg clonez to one person per day they will be investigated,,especially if other meds are involved which they surely are if yer on clonazepams,,---just sayin.....though i do agree that i also can take 16 mgs and feel fine to ,,but its not perscribed to me for that amount and gawd ,if i ever ran out completely before i got my new script,the WDs suck bad big time within 2 days,,,though i also will agree getting perscribed them in the first place is hard enough as you stated especialy if its by a regular gp ,,i would find it neer impossible to get a gp to perscribe 4 2mg per day anywhere,theyll tell you to go to a shrink...
 
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