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Harm Reduction ⫸Should I Try HEROIN?⫷

Not yet. I hope you never get hooked but know that there are obviously different types of addicts and we have all start using as an experience. Everyone is different but the addiction at the end looks pretty similar. It's not uncommon to see people dying on their first experience as well.
 
I used alot, mostly snorting it. IV'd 2-4 x which was the craziest bst buzz ever hand down. Came across different kinds. Sticky kinda yellow/tan stuff hard to work with, hard to bust up in folded paper with lighter pancake and becomes hard try razor/credit card goes flying.

Seen some almost orange/brown stuff which i railed as well, tan/grey/off white, but it mostly the light brown/tan stuff. Ill never forget these 2 x i snorted just a tiny bit and got the best buzz ever had. Picked up idk 50-70$ worth wtv that i and the guy said he was gnna laugh when i throw up, hooked him up and went bathroom tall did a bump. Was my 1st time i thought it would hit like coke, nothing. So i walk out and say "this didnt do shiiiiiitt" and immediately kinda "went down" like got so heavy the girl i was with and guy helped me walk out the building, we said good evening and went sit at park. even talking my voice felt heavy and i actually did feel like throwing up, never did was power nauseous but the stone was soo good. After that got stuff couple years later in '11? '12? and did little bump test it, got all nice and warm. almost like swallowing 90mg of morphine but way better.
 
Once you use heroin, atleast for me, that's the only drug you want anymore. I've developed my own little way of not becoming physically addicted but if you can live without doing it, do not try heroin.
 
The memory of the experience gets stucked in your mind. So it's easier to develop an addiction. Everyone is different - for some it's a quick fall. Then you see they doing literally everything to sustain the habit. Some others don't see it as their best DOC, still they get polly addicted to it in 5 to 10 years or more. Or even above 40s.

I wonder if this or that person would do have done it if they haven't tried it. Maybe not. There are a lot of statistics on this subject.

The real sad issue is the actual death of young people trying dope for the first time. It happens a lot. I remember reading in the papers last year in Boston a huge number of teens that died because of fent cut patches. I read a recent post where OP related a large number of deaths in Montreal because of a different type of cut substance added to the powder. You'll never know.
 
Anyone who is hellbent on trying heroin for the first time is either lucky enough not to know anyone that's been a victim of it or really, really naive to think that they are so bulletproof.

or lucky enough to live in a small town where it's literally impossible to find within 100 miles. never liked opiates but am a gear head so if it had been available id prolly gave it a shot (pun intended). the only drug ive literally never seen - and thankful for it.
 
Write this and read it in 20 years to see how it sounds to you. We are all different. I just hope you get the best for yourself. If you know the consequences and do it anyway -- it's up to you to deal with it. Your issue, being thankful heroin exists.
 
The memory of the experience gets stucked in your mind. So it's easier to develop an addiction. Everyone is different - for some it's a quick fall. Then you see they doing literally everything to sustain the habit. Some others don't see it as their best DOC, still they get polly addicted to it in 5 to 10 years or more. Or even above 40s.

I wonder if this or that person would do have done it if they haven't tried it. Maybe not. There are a lot of statistics on this subject.

The real sad issue is the actual death of young people trying dope for the first time. It happens a lot. I remember reading in the papers last year in Boston a huge number of teens that died because of fent cut patches. I read a recent post where OP related a large number of deaths in Montreal because of a different type of cut substance added to the powder. You'll never know.


you wouldn't happen to know exactly which recent post it was concerning the montreal related deaths would you?
 
Great read. Addiction has been a struggle for me from day one. I quit drinking after a alcohol induced black out in the middle of down Los Angeles that lleft me with a broken collarbon, blackceye,etc.
with my broken collarbone of corse they gave me pain mEds (opiates) for pain. I've been on and off for seven months of the pills for seven months ? I worry about physical dependence that could lead to who knows where. I take the pain meds for a few days and give it a break for several days to a week in hope that is enough time in between. I also know I'll be cute off sometime from my doctor and anyone reading this knows what that out come could be....... Any suggestions or thoughts?
 
I've tried it once, smoked on foil, and it made me nod but it was not pleasurable - perhaps because it made me quite sick. I didn't feel euphoria or anything to write home about. I haven't tried it again since and probably never will. No desire to. Meth on the other hand..
 
^ Different DOC.

@Dodger, if you are in real pain you need to look for medical assistance and openly discuss your options. You'll need to learn how deal with a bearable amount of pain and stick to the prescription. Acute pains are usually dealt within a limited amount of time. You can take some mild type of painkillers with non steroidal anti inflammatory. You both have to work out your best options. Tough spot, but you can make through this. We'll do whatever we set our minds to do. Good luck, and keep us posted. In TDS you'll find a lot of threads about recovery -- you should take a look. We can help you through this.
 
I have thought of trying it after my roxy habit got bigger. Like people say, it's cheaper- but it's a good point I see here that it isn't cheaper once you are really in the grips of heroin addiction. My main reason of thinking of trying it though is the curiosity- what about it is sooo good that people are willing to give up their lives basically for it??? I don't feel that way about roxys. I did give them up though. I'll have 90 days in a few days away from them. I am almost 4 years away from a drink. I do consider myself an alcoholic. I have chronic pain and recent back surgery though. So, the pain confuses me. I started snorting roxys because I felt they weren't working for the pain by mouth. My sober boyfriend caught me doing it and off to rehab I went.... I still struggle with the whole "drug addict" thing. I feel like if I had no pain- sure. Then again, people say someone who isn't an addict, doesn't "snort" pills. Touché. I am on the fence right now actually. I want the roxys back. I don't want the control they had in my life back though. I do take Suboxone now, I take one 8mg strip/day and trying to taper from that now. I also don't understand what makes sub so much better to people than just taking the roxys?? Sub is still an opiate and a very strong one!!! It isn't helping with my pain though the way the roxys did. I don't know what to do. Just talking it out. If anyone has any suggestions I'm open.... I am just so tired of living in physical pain....p.s. Please don't tell me to take NSAIDS because they are crap. I have probably tried every non-narcotic drug there is. I'm barely surviving but am taking Neurontin 300mg BID & Robaxin 500mg as needed right now....
 
I live in Florida, which is considered the "pill mill" of the US. Heroin isn't all too big around here, but IV dilaudid hit us like a plague. I understand the frustration behind the over-posting of this specific topic, but in the spirit of harm reduction, I think this should be changed to a hard opiate/ IV awareness thread. Many of friends who are daily users would only touch heroin if it was their last option, hours into withdrawal, but I know plenty of people who would IV an unfiltered dilaudid, regardless of whether or not they were addicted at the time.


Yeah Florida sucks but yeah those dils are falling from the sky
 
^^^^That's crazy. I mean, he "may" have been prescribed fentanyl, but most fent overdoses I hear about are laced dope like you mentioned. So sad.
 
I'm 21 and have been using opiates for about 7 years, beginning with oxy. I always liked opiates but I've never developed a daily habit. In fact I was always able to use fairly infrequently - never more than a few days in a row, and I'd often go months in between using. None of the drugs I ever tried, opiates included, really had the level of appeal to me that I could even see myself becoming addicted them. Then about six month ago, I tried IV heroin for the first time, the exact date was December 31 as a matter of fact. I wasn't partying for New Years or anything like that. I was actually at my girlfriend's uncle's/cousin's house for the holiday, when I stumbled upon a bunch of her cousins insulin syringes that she uses for her diabetes medication. I happened to have some heroin with me at the time, so I decided to shoot it up.

I was kind of nervous about it at first, but I had seen people shoot up it movies and documentaries and stuff, so I felt like I had a pretty good idea of how to do it. I snuck into the bathroom as soon as i could, mixed up a shot of dope, drew it up in the syringe, and found a vein and registered with ease. Seconds later the rush hit me. The light-headedness, the instant euphoria, the sense of relaxation, and that "butterflies in your chest" feeling (so to speak) hit me in seconds. Although I didn't realize it at the time, as soon as I was able to look back on the experience in retrospect, I said to myself, "now I see whats so addictive about heroin, now I understand how someone could become addicted to a drug".

To this day I've been able to fend off addiction, but I'm getting worried; for the first time in my life I feel like I'm truly standing on the precipice of addiction, and I feel scared. I probably use about 2 times a week on average, but sometimes I do binge for awhile, and sometimes I go for a little longer without using. However, I've never used any opiate with this kind of frequency. What's worse is that I often think about it when I'm not on it. I think about the experience of prepping a shot and that final burst of euphoria when the plunger goes down and the rush hits me out of nowhere. I wouldn't really say I crave it or anything, and if I use it for more then two days in a row I develop a desire for sobriety, which I think is a good thing. But I often find the thought of using creeping into my mind at the most random times and intruding on my sober experience of the world.

I really don't know what to do at this point. Part of me wants to stop and part of me wants to keep using. On one level it seems so nice, but at the same time I can't ignore the reality that heroin is one hell of a drug, and life-ruining addiction is a real possibility. It's not that I fear a rapid spiral into addiction, even now I don't think that could ever happen to me. But what I do worry about is the possibility of it slowly creeping up on me. Maybe it'll take six months, maybe a year, maybe three, maybe it never will who knows. If someone out there is reading this and they have any advice or commentary please share it. Its so hard when you don't want to stop using but part of you thinks you should.
 
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I'm 21 and have been using opiates for about 7 years, beginning with oxy. I always liked opiates but I've never developed a daily habit. In fact I was always able to use fairly infrequently - never more than a few days in a row, and I'd often go months in between using. None of the drugs I ever tried, opiates included, really had the level of appeal to me that I could even see myself becoming addicted them. Then about six month ago, I tried IV heroin for the first time, the exact date was December 31 as a matter of fact. I wasn't partying for New Years or anything like that. I was actually at my girlfriend's uncle's/cousin's house for the holiday, when I stumbled upon a bunch of her cousins insulin syringes that she uses for her diabetes medication. I happened to have some heroin with me at the time, so I decided to shoot it up.

I was kind of nervous about it at first, but I had seen people shoot up it movies and documentaries and stuff, so I felt like I had a pretty good idea of how to do it. I snuck into the bathroom as soon as i could, mixed up a shot of dope, drew it up in the syringe, and found a vein and registered with ease. Seconds later the rush hit me. The light-headedness, the instant euphoria, the sense of relaxation, and that "butterflies in your chest" feeling (so to speak) hit me in seconds. Although I didn't realize it at the time, as soon as I was able to look back on the experience in retrospect, I said to myself, "now I see whats so addictive about heroin, now I understand how someone could become addicted to a drug".

To this day I've been able to fend off addiction, but I'm getting worried; for the first time in my life I feel like I'm truly standing on the precipice of addiction, and I feel scared. I probably use about 2 times a week on average, but sometimes I do binge for awhile, and sometimes I go for a little longer without using. However, I've never used any opiate with this kind of frequency. What's worse is that I often think about it when I'm not on it. I think about the experience of prepping a shot and that final burst of euphoria when the plunger goes down and the rush hits me out of nowhere. I wouldn't really say I crave it or anything, and if I use it for more then two days in a row I develop a desire for sobriety, which I think is a good thing. But I often find the thought of using creeping into my mind at the most random times and intruding on my sober experience of the world.

I really don't know what to do at this point. Part of me wants to stop and part of me wants to keep using. On one level it seems so nice, but at the same time I can't ignore the reality that heroin is one hell of a drug, and life-ruining addiction is a real possibility. It's not that I fear a rapid spiral into addiction, even now I don't think that could ever happen to me. But what I do worry about is the possibility of it slowly creeping up on me. Maybe it'll take six months, maybe a year, maybe three, maybe it never will who knows. If someone out there is reading this and they have any advice or commentary please share it. Its so hard when you don't want to stop using but part of you thinks you should.
We both know the best course of action would be to drop everything right now and never look back.
But we also both know that it isn't easy.
I too would like to quit opiates forever but a big part of me wants to keep using.
I just love it too much.
 
Drugs don't cause addiction; people themselves cause addiction. I know someone who intravenously tried heroin on a few separate occasions years apart without having ever gotten addicted. He just treated it as one would treat having a beer on a holiday. However, this is not to justify trying heroin, for most people will not be able to wrestle away an incoming addiction that, as always, is rooted in their desires and the choices that those desires lead to. I am just presenting a curious exception here, an exception that shows the oft-mistaken nature of addiction.
 
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