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Harm Reduction ⫸Should I Try HEROIN?⫷

Sweetyjane77 said:
Day 1 of benzo and opiate wd
I'd like to give this skin crawling feeling to a person so they run like hell from opiates and benzos
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If your only on day 1 of benzo withdrawal your in for a shock my freind mine never kicked in till day 6/7 and lasted like 3/4 months give me heavy opiate wds over any benzo wd anytime!! If I must withdraw from both well just shoot me lol
 
I get my benzo script tomorrow thank god. 5 days until my oxy. This happened before last November. 6 days and it was pure hell. I think the benzo is worst but hard to tell when ya outta both. I took some kratom and it helped. I'm counting down the hours til morning to get benzos. I'm trying to taper from 4mg clonzepam to 3.5 but didn't work. If I could feel like this when I started both I would have never used either. But ptsd and ms happened so I kinda need them but want to get back to"take as directed"
 
Hi again all so a few days ago I was really having a hard time deciding if heroin would be a better option but after hearing about some of the impurities ect I kinda got put off but I'm still wondering what I should do health wise ...I'm now soo hooked on these dihydrocodeine pills I'm now taking 30 X 30mg pills in one dose mid day and about 8-10 pills before bed as if I don't I wake up feeling terrible and insainly sweating to the point I wake up to change sheets and clothes so I take it I now i obviously have a huge ass DHC habbit Im just wondering does anyone have any advice what they would choose... Stick with a very high pill habbit or move to heroin? I'm just wondering if I'm gonna get liver failure or something that sucks just as much from taking all these pills ...or would smoking H and give my lungs a turn lol....BTW not taking these pills or and being clean ect ect ain't a choice here it's one or the other unfortunately
 
Thank you and no I would never EVER shoot anything
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That's what I said before trying heroin. I was "loyal to the foil" at first, but it was the only drug that gave me the urge to shoot it.
 
My doctor is cutting my friend off meds because he doesn't believe that rocky mountain spotted fever is causing long term side effects but he has felt like hell ever since so heroin is his only rope for now until "he" moves to colorado for medicinal marijuana to control the pain and anxiety. He lost 10 pounds in under a month from not holding anything down. The DEA are punishing people who need help because junkies use the pills to get high.I
 
Wow I had never heard that for most people it takes weeks-months of daily use to become physically dependent ...maybe the dope I was doing was just really good or its just my brain chemistry or both but I was dependent w/in like a week of trying it for the first time, after 4 days of daily use ...yeah, it can happen that fast. Watch your back.
I remember my first withdrawal experience so well ...feeling like I was dying in a totally foreign way and wondering what the hell was wrong w me for hours, like half the day, before it occurred to me that I might be dopesick. I can recognize that feeling instantly now.
I remember swearing to myself that I wouldn't use it again until the withdrawals had completely passed, I didn't want to end up a junkie ...I think I ended up copping again w/in 12 hours of deciding that. I'm a junkie to the core and I think I probably always was, I just didn't know it yet. Heroin fills that hole inside me, it fits perfectly inside the dark voids inside my mind like a key in a lock. It makes me whole. And I still miss it every day and you can bet if I somehow ran across it I'd still be doing everything I could to get it in my veins despite not having touched it in over 2 years and being on bupe. Because now that I've experienced being whole I am so painfully aware of my empty spaces and will never not desire that feeling.

Stay the fuck away from heroin, it will ruin your life no matter what.
 
^ That's normally what happens when you play with fire. I hope you'll remember about those bad moments that brings us to the current suffering.
You could still have your life back. Go find something you enjoy doing other than H. Exercise, make new friends, change your style.
Whatever makes you healthy and hopeful.
 
Hi, guys. I believe that heroin, cocaine, and all drugs should be legalized. Strange as it sounds, it would reduce the number of addicts on the street. It would remove the "cops and robbers" excitement and mentality that everyone seems to enjoy at first. Ha! At least 'till they get caught.

I wish I lived in the United States in the year 1900 when heroin was new and legal and cocaine was everywhere. As long as I had money. Maybe from a rich family.

I truly believe that telling folks not to do heroin is a waste of time. It just increases their excitement. I have never done pure heroin. You just cannot find it in the US. The best we have are oxycodone and Dilaudid, both semi-synthetic drugs created from opium.

If someone asks me what I think about them doing heroin for the first time, I say, "Go ahead. Gas is cheap. Cremation is simple. Just don't get buried and waste space on your stinkin' ass. People will forget all about you in about five minutes. " It sounds callous but I say it. If it's a chick, I look at them and appraise. I say, "Yeah, you can probably make a few bucks selling your ass. At least until your teeth fall out and you become a bag lady pushing a shopping cart.":sus:

Ah, fuck it, guys. It's a waste. Legalize all this shit. Take it away from the terrorists and drug cartels. That will make it look less exciting. The high never lasts. Mikie
 
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In theory maybe. Idk.

I have seen a 2 hours documentary about the 1900s. And how It was not as criminal or illegal, but people were getting massively addicted. A slave community were being created in Asia and people were dying all over the place, especially the poorest. It also affected the average class housewives and doctors, students of medicine. Entire generations were fighting against depression due to these narcotics.

Perhaps with guidance, learning from the past. In Swiss they tried to do that but it ended up in a wage of crimes that forced them to change to how it is nowadays. A lot of people died from ODs, but also killed by the occupants of that park.

But perhaps for certain drugs it would definitely decrease and take away the power of the drug cartels.
 
Kratom us an excellent substitute- but can also be abused, tolerance builds quick. You need a huge variation in your daily weekly stack to avoid addiction and or tolerance issues. It can be done.
 
Yes, but be careful with growing tolerance and craving for something stronger.
Keep posting, you are new here. Welcome!
 
How many MG's or Grams of Kratom did you take to help with your WD? Did you do - Tea or Capsules?
 
Thank you for the welcome. I have a daily weekly stack to avoid both issues - it appears so far, to combat addiction and tolerance. My daughter was an addict, so I'm super sensitive to the whole scene.
 
^ Good for you.

Sometimes our children teaches us more about life than many adults, IME.
 
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