Harm Reduction ⫸Official Plugging/Rectal Administration Megathread⫷

[Morphling]

There is absolutely no reason for the song and dance with the qtip and straw. The further you squirt the solution up your ass the worse it works. At a certain point it is absorbed in the intestine by an artery which leads to the liver, which completely obviates the point of plugging.

Detach the qtip and straw, and simply plug normally, about 2 knuckles deep, into the rectum. You will get better results.

 

[DillionisUP]

This is an awesome tutorial, but my line stops at needles.
Any chance you could make one of these for a non-needle method?
Would be very appreciated!

 

[Hope4Dope]

Anyone care to share a list of substances they've attempted plugging and your satisfaction in doing so?

I've only ever tried this with cwe codeine. I can't say I was super pleased with the results.

Most drugs i've tried/do I plug (in no particular order):

Methamphetamine HCL (Crystal, Stimulant
Mixed Amphetamine Salts (Adderall XR, Pill)
Methoxetamine (Dissociative)
3-MeO-PCP (Dissociative)
Pentedrone (Stimulant RC)
Heroin (Black Tar, Opiate)
Ethylphenidate (EPH, Stimulant)
4-Fluoroamphetamine (4-FA, Stimulant)
4-MeMABP (Shittiest Stimulant RC ever procured)
25c-NBOMe (Hallucinogen)
4-HO-MiPT (Miprocin, Hallucinogen)
Hydrocodone
Morphine Sulfate (pills)
Molly (MDMA)
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I may be forgetting some, but those are the one's I remember.

 

[Hope4Dope]

There is absolutely no reason for the song and dance with the Q-tip and straw. The further you squirt the solution up your ass the worse it works. At a certain point it is absorbed in the intestine by an artery which leads to the liver, which completely obviates the point of plugging.

Detach the qtip and straw, and simply plug normally, about 2 knuckles deep, into the rectum. You will get better results.

Well I don't know about anyone else but the length of q-tip is short enough that it doesn't fly deep in your rectal cavity. It has to be longer than the oral syringes standard nozzle or it barely gets the liquid where it needs to be. The q-tip passes the sphincter muscle ensuring that when you gently press the plunger of the syringe that it doesn't shoot the liquid too far. As well as the added effect that once you pass the sphincter muscle you're not going to lose/spill any liquid as the q-tip doesn't spread/gape your asshole like the short non-uniform nozzle/nose-piece of the oral syringe.

The fact is short-ish and narrow is far more efficient overall than the anything else that is with (using controlled pressure when pressing on the plunger). Nothing worse than wasting your hit/plug/dose.

I don't know about everyone else but when I plug I don't dick around with lying down ass pointed directly up. With this method (I've used since upgrading from 5-ml pipette eyedroppers - a year or two ago.) I've been pretty much able to stand up spread a cheek, insert past sphincter, tighten bung-muscle and be done in under 10 seconds, pretty much instantaneous (once dose is in a solution and in the syringe.

Gravity would be against you if you tried standing with a minor amount of squatting/bending over - with anything not skinny/narrow/and too short.


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"This is an awesome tutorial, but my line stops at needles.
Any chance you could make one of these for a non-needle method?
Would be very appreciated!"

@DillionisUP

Thing is with a oral syringe is you've got a better seal with the pressure on the inside and won't necessarily be restricted to ass-to-the sky to plug.

Another benefit of the syringe is storing/having prepped a multiple dose solution. You can have XXX mg of substance divide add enough water for the whole mixture so that every 2-ml will be one dose and with a 10 ml syringe that'll leave you with 5 doses total.
The syringe has far more control when dosing x-ml then an pipette I found.
And plugging on the go-in a bathroom (at a party, etc)

If you don't want oral syringe- a far less (preferable option) is a eyedropper - Pipette




*Excuse any double talk-indirect point-long post, stimmed on plugged Crystal*

 

[ChipTrippyFox]

I feel like i need to get my hands on a larger syringe and give this another shot ^^;

one of the biggest reasons i think my codeine CWE failed before was due to the fact i only had a 5ml syringe but the amount of liquid was far greater. i think alot got wasted in spilling >.> also the idea of having to put the syringe in the cup multiple times after using it up the butt is a little displeasing

 

[ChipTrippyFox]

Oh also, has anyone tried plugging DXM?
Specificaly syrup.
At a low dose of about 300mg (15mg/5ml) It wouldnt bee too difficult to handle in volume (at least for me) but would this even have any benifits?
Greater potency, less nausea from chugging syrup?

What about using an extraction method, this would allow for a greater dosage at a signifigantly lessened volume of liquid, but again, i dont know if this has any benifits. especialy considering once extracted it would be much more stomachable.

 

[Hope4Dope]

^^

An additional benefit of q-tip as your 'needle' is the hygenic aspect, Dependant on how much you want absolute cleanliness you can dispose of the tip after each use or soap clean them if you're a person who plugs drugs throughout the day/multiple times etc eventually you will want to dispose of the tip, and for a dollar you can buy 100 q-tips to make more plugger tips.

I myself for most times end up plugging multiple times a day or even and sometimes for multiple days - so I don't dispose/replace the tip for about a week or two.

I personally am not too concerned with the sanity factor as much as to need to hyperscrub the used tip after usage, I rinse/wipe it after use but in reality my ass produces shit, and will not be dirtier when introducing a plastic tube into it.

Also I recommend 2 things:
If you're a poly-drug user and or intend to plug different substances you may want to purchase/have a couple additional oral syringes, dosage cups. (while not mandatory it's preferable to use a different plugger for different substances.) - I have 2, usually i'll usually only use one if the substance is (MXE, Morphine/Opiates) if I'm not trying to remove any traces of any past substance in my plugger I'll use my secondary one. (Methamphetamine/stimulants, psychedelics/other questionable serotonergic substances). Or if one plugger already has a prepared solution that I'm not wanting to dose at the time.

If you've any doubt that there's feces that will sponge your drugs in your system, you should try to shit or if you're extra-thorough/backed up fill the oral syringe (before you've sucked it from your cup to your syringe) and take and use sink water to fill the plugger to enema yourself. When I do this, I'll use 9-10 ml and then wait 15-30 seconds then try to release my bowels, I usually end up doing this process 2+ times. Ensuring that all waste is not going to hijack my drug solution when I plug. (I especially have to do this after opiates as my shit fights me by hardening up/constipation.

Oh also, has anyone tried plugging DXM?
Specificaly syrup.
At a low dose of about 300mg (15mg/5ml) It wouldnt bee too difficult to handle in volume (at least for me) but would this even have any benifits?
Greater potency, less nausea from chugging syrup?

What about using an extraction method, this would allow for a greater dosage at a signifigantly lessened volume of liquid, but again, i dont know if this has any benifits. especialy considering once extracted it would be much more stomachable.

Well there's reports about someone doing it and experiencing an intense high but with some very undesirable effects.

http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=16566

I've heard/read a couple times about pain, and everytime someone has tried it they vouch never to plug DXM again.

 

[ChipTrippyFox]

Well there's reports about someone doing it and experiencing an intense high but with some very undesirable effects.

http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=16566

I've heard/read a couple times about pain, and everytime someone has tried it they vouch never to plug DXM again.

Ah that doesn't sound pleasant at all.. seems dxm is very bowel irritant, even when taken oral.
In fact I was going to ask if dxm gives everyone gas the was it does for me >.> (judging from this persons report, it seems not uncommon)

my biggest worry would be that since It takes me about 2 hours to peak on dxm, I don't know if I would be able to endure going that long before needing to eliminate, risking wasting some of the product.

 

[Hope4Dope]

Ah that doesn't sound pleasant at all.. seems dxm is very bowel irritant, even when taken oral.
In fact I was going to ask if dxm gives everyone gas the was it does for me >.> (judging from this persons report, it seems not uncommon)

my biggest worry would be that since It takes me about 2 hours to peak on dxm, I don't know if I would be able to endure going that long before needing to eliminate, risking wasting some of the product.

It may take a while for peak but as far as I know the DXM would be have been absorbed long before then. Every drug I've plugged started onset around 6-10 minutes, and I've never really had the problem where you had to shit out liquid after 15 minutes.

And as far as discomfort when plugging: There's been none for most drugs, although I can think of 3 that produced a noticeable sensation/feeling. Morphine Sulfate, Methamphetamine and Adderall XR. The morphine sometimes creates temporary discomfort in the lower stomach region, Meth sometimes has a achey-feeling like when you've got diarrhea and it feels like there's an achey/pain in your rectom, which goes away after not too long. Adderall has a similar feeling which goes away shortly.

 

[ChipTrippyFox]

It may take a while for peak but as far as I know the DXM would be have been absorbed long before then. Every drug I've plugged started onset around 6-10 minutes, and I've never really had the problem where you had to shit out liquid after 15 minutes.

And as far as discomfort when plugging: There's been none for most drugs, although I can think of 3 that produced a noticeable sensation/feeling. Morphine Sulfate, Methamphetamine and Adderall XR. The morphine sometimes creates temporary discomfort in the lower stomach region, Meth sometimes has a achey-feeling like when you've got diarrhea and it feels like there's an achey/pain in your rectom, which goes away after not too long. Adderall has a similar feeling which goes away shortly.

Well it's not really about not being g able to hold the liquid in, tht s not much of a problem for me. My concerns lay within the fact that dxm makes me need to shit more than normal anyways, as well as that report where the guy said he also had many trips to the bathroom.

As far as absorption goes, would the syrup slow the regular rectal absorption rate?


I feel like this may be worth trying for me at some point, but I'm going to have to aquire a 50+ml string. Preferably 100+ml even.

 

[Hope4Dope]

Well it's not really about not being g able to hold the liquid in, tht s not much of a problem for me. My concerns lay within the fact that dxm makes me need to shit more than normal anyways, as well as that report where the guy said he also had many trips to the bathroom.

As far as absorption goes, would the syrup slow the regular rectal absorption rate?


I feel like this may be worth trying for me at some point, but I'm going to have to aquire a 50+ml string. Preferably 100+ml even.

I would strongly recommend not using straight syrup, I believe that DXM isn't very water soluble although I'm not positive. Anyways the additives in the syrup aside from the thickness of it I'd think you'd have a difficult time getting it to absorb easily. Sorbitol If I remember right has effects that could upset your stomach/bowels.

I think the best way (if you were to try plugging DXM) is to get pure powder whether it be from an extraction or painstakingly emptying Robo-gels through softening them with heated water or using a actual syringe and collecting the liquid and placing it in your cup/container; from each one, or even obtaining/purchasing bulk pure DXM from online vendors.

The thing is with plugging is that you don't use too much liquid otherwise you'll just feel like you've got the runs and either overdilute your psychoactive substance (dependant on ratio of mg's to ml)- or have a ridiculously slow absorption time. The walls inside your rectom soak up lower quantities of liquid and the drugs get into your bloodstream bypassing metabolism actions - having near the best bioavailability. So overall you'll most times need less of the drug to get just as high/higher (so use caution)


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Went to go check for solubility information.
(From http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/dxm/faq/dxm_chemistry.shtml)

Table 3: Differential Solubility Data
Substance Cold H2O Hot H2O Ethanol Ether
DXM HBr Soluble (<1.5%) Soluble (25%) Soluble (25%) Insoluble
DXM free base Insoluble Insoluble Soluble Soluble?
Guaifenesin Slightly (1g/20 ml) Soluble Soluble Soluble
d-Pseudoephedrine HCl Soluble Soluble Soluble Insoluble?
d-Pseudoephedrine free base Slightly Slightly Soluble Soluble
Acetaminophen Insoluble Soluble Soluble Slightly
Propylene Glycol Miscible Miscible ? Soluble
Polyethylene Glycol 400 Soluble Soluble Soluble? ?

 

[Rybee]

Well I don't know about anyone else but the length of q-tip is short enough that it doesn't fly deep in your rectal cavity. It has to be longer than the oral syringes standard nozzle or it barely gets the liquid where it needs to be. The q-tip passes the sphincter muscle ensuring that when you gently press the plunger of the syringe that it doesn't shoot the liquid too far. As well as the added effect that once you pass the sphincter muscle you're not going to lose/spill any liquid as the q-tip doesn't spread/gape your asshole like the short non-uniform nozzle/nose-piece of the oral syringe.

The fact is short-ish and narrow is far more efficient overall than the anything else that is with (using controlled pressure when pressing on the plunger). Nothing worse than wasting your hit/plug/dose.

I don't know about everyone else but when I plug I don't dick around with lying down ass pointed directly up. With this method (I've used since upgrading from 5-ml pipette eyedroppers - a year or two ago.) I've been pretty much able to stand up spread a cheek, insert past sphincter, tighten bung-muscle and be done in under 10 seconds, pretty much instantaneous (once dose is in a solution and in the syringe.

Gravity would be against you if you tried standing with a minor amount of squatting/bending over - with anything not skinny/narrow/and too short.

Thanks for the tutorial, I gave it a go with Dihydrocodeine and the results were quite astonishing! Honestly not had an opioid buzz like that in years.

I also agree with your above post for sure ^^

 

[dopemegently]

I've just got my hands on a box of Micolette Micro Enemas; they're used to directly relieve constipation. I don't have constipation, but I do want to plug drugs, so can I empty out the contents and use it as a plugging tool? It looks kind of like a small tube of toothpaste with a prong of around 3.5 inches, and it has a 5 ml capacity.

 

[Hope4Dope]

I've just got my hands on a box of Micolette Micro Enemas; they're used to directly relieve constipation. I don't have constipation, but I do want to plug drugs, so can I empty out the contents and use it as a plugging tool? It looks kind of like a small tube of toothpaste with a prong of around 3.5 inches.

If you can suck the solution into the tube then it will probably be viable. But if you use it as a plugging tool you won't be able see the liquid and you'll have to be ass-to-the sky when plugging or you'll be getting air while the little bit of liquid remains at the far back of the tube.

 

[dopemegently]

Yeah, that's mostly what I was worried about: not getting all of my solution out. I guess the 5 ml capacity will help; the solution will be so diluted and watery, It should empty relatively easily.

Btw it's simple getting my solution into the tube - there's a large-ish hole, big enough to fit a syringe into.

I also have luer lock 2 ml syringes; I tried plugging unsuccessfully with these (the prong is far too short), and I was thinking of using a blade to cut off the prong of my micro enemas and attaching it to the syringe- I think it should form an airtight seal.

 

[ChipTrippyFox]

I would strongly recommend not using straight syrup, I believe that DXM isn't very water soluble although I'm not positive. Anyways the additives in the syrup aside from the thickness of it I'd think you'd have a difficult time getting it to absorb easily. Sorbitol If I remember right has effects that could upset your stomach/bowels.

I think the best way (if you were to try plugging DXM) is to get pure powder whether it be from an extraction or painstakingly emptying Robo-gels through softening them with heated water or using a actual syringe and collecting the liquid and placing it in your cup/container; from each one, or even obtaining/purchasing bulk pure DXM from online vendors.

The thing is with plugging is that you don't use too much liquid otherwise you'll just feel like you've got the runs and either overdilute your psychoactive substance (dependant on ratio of mg's to ml)- or have a ridiculously slow absorption time. The walls inside your rectom soak up lower quantities of liquid and the drugs get into your bloodstream bypassing metabolism actions - having near the best bioavailability. So overall you'll most times need less of the drug to get just as high/higher (so use caution)


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Went to go check for solubility information.
(From http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/dxm/faq/dxm_chemistry.shtml)

Table 3: Differential Solubility Data
Substance Cold H2O Hot H2O Ethanol Ether
DXM HBr Soluble (<1.5%) Soluble (25%) Soluble (25%) Insoluble
DXM free base Insoluble Insoluble Soluble Soluble?
Guaifenesin Slightly (1g/20 ml) Soluble Soluble Soluble
d-Pseudoephedrine HCl Soluble Soluble Soluble Insoluble?
d-Pseudoephedrine free base Slightly Slightly Soluble Soluble
Acetaminophen Insoluble Soluble Soluble Slightly
Propylene Glycol Miscible Miscible ? Soluble
Polyethylene Glycol 400 Soluble Soluble Soluble? ?

Well before I saw your reply I had attempted it.
I plugged 180mg dxm (60 ml syrup mixed with 60 ml warm water so 120 ml altogether) as well as a 180mg oral dose

As far as handling it. . It was fine. Not really uncomfortable at all. Odd sensation of menthol - esque "coolness" around the anus but not painful.

it felt mild for that dosage in total but it seemed to last longer.. Over all I'll call it a failed experiment. Unless I use pure powdered dxm form, I'll just stick to oral dosing dxm


Also I should note that I held it in for 3 hours before eliminating. There was no "syrupy residue" whatsoever.

 

[Jojomonkeygirl]

Ok..I'm not blonde or anything BUT.... let me get this straight. Do a CWE and squirt it in the butt? No needles (I saw a post on this thread mentioning needles but I don't see where one is required). Have built up such a tolerance that can no longer get a buzz off of anything anymore (vics or percs) Thought maybe this might do it. THANKS

 

[Engage]

'Plugged' acid once...what a waste....took the song too seriously I guess.

 

[Jojomonkeygirl]

'Plugged' acid once...what a waste....took the song too seriously I guess.

Didn't exactly answer my question. Anyone?

 

[ChipTrippyFox]

Ok..I'm not blonde or anything BUT.... let me get this straight. Do a CWE and squirt it in the butt? No needles (I saw a post on this thread mentioning needles but I don't see where one is required). Have built up such a tolerance that can no longer get a buzz off of anything anymore (vics or percs) Thought maybe this might do it. THANKS

Essentialy, yes.
You don't need a needle, you need an oral syringe or another method of getting your cwe up the butt.