Nervigesic Pregabalin

[Shambles]

It's true, 400-600mg you will know about it but to say "smash you hard" you have to go way above 600mg.

I’m not saying it’s not true, I’m just nudging you a reminder that dicksizing is against the Forum Guidelines

 

[placebonaut]

I’m not saying it’s not true, I’m just nudging you a reminder that dicksizing is against the Forum Guidelines

I agree with you on dicksizing, though equally a discussion on what limits are safe is also very useful.

with pregab when you start to push it hard the effects change noticeably, it's helpful to people imho that they understand what the effects are in relation to where they are against personal dose - some people will hit the OEV with less than 900mg I suspect.

I don't know what happens if you push it further than that, not sure if I might give it a try and find out though....but would be very interested in hearing from people who's gone through and past the intense OEV stage to hear what it's like, even if we don't talk about dosage

for example if you start getting tachycardia on top of the OEV then I'm not going to be taking higher doses than I currently take

 

[Perkins : Reborn]

So we won't talk about dosage, but we'll talk about the kind of doses that have people hallucinating?

 

[placebonaut]

So we won't talk about dosage, but we'll talk about the kind of doses that have people hallucinating?

I don't see issue with that personally, it's rule interpretation & enforcement by the mods though.

follow the threshold, light, moderate, strong, intense, extreme scale on sub wiki would work too.

Drug.Community

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interestingly lots of reports there have OEV at lower dose than I need, that might be a tolerance thing but my hunch is it's more a YMMV thing personally, same with getting the munchies, I never ever get them on pregab

reports of people doing 1 to 1.5g as well....but context and effect is important as is tolerance, so who fucking knows if that much is safe if you have low tolerance, I'm not rolling that dice cold, but certainly might push things harder 1 day just to see, issue is at high doses I find things too intense without also taking a benzo to smooth things out. hmm I'm talking myself into doing a big dose

 

[Bleaney]

There shouldn't be any issues discussing what doses cause what effects, in anyone's personal experience.

That sort of information is important for potential harm reduction.

"Dicksizing" is a different issue all together.

I guess it's all about how things are worded, and what seems to be being emphasized.

 

[Perkins : Reborn]

I'll take double what you bastards take, and I'll come up smelling of roses in the morning.

 

[Shambles]

There shouldn't be any issues discussing what doses cause what effects, in anyone's personal experience.

That sort of information is important for potential harm reduction.

"Dicksizing" is a different issue all together.

I guess it's all about how things are worded, and what seems to be being emphasized.

Basically this. Discussing your own personal doses and subjective effects is no problem - positively encuraged in fact.

Flexing for the sake of flexing is not allowed. The line probably is a lil fuzzy hence handling it lightly unless it got wildly out of hand.

 

[RUC4]

I have been a bit reckless with it taking them multiple days after work(taking 900mg an hour before I finish work) and can't say I've noticed any nasty effects the following day. I've a week off planned next week and won't be taking after this Thursday evening to try get tolerance back down.

I know recreational pregabs don't agree with some people i.e they don't have much effect; I seem to be one of those people. I just feel a slight drunkenness and a bit of a wanting to enjoy music; but they are definitely moreish.

I don't understand the recreational part. Are you getting high from them? I've taken them and gabapentin and have had no meaningful euphoria or anything. Nothing. If anything at all, they may cause some drowsiness. I would equate them to Benadryl.

 

[Zopiclone bandit]

I wasn't dick sizing in the least, all I was saying is you wanna really understand pregabalin high you gotta go way above 600mg.
I didn't do it for ages & always took 600mg till one day I was a bit Nihilist & decided to see what would happen after reading EROWID BTW SHAMBLES where people have posted taking 3500mg (dick sizing on Erowid huh?????)

I did 1350mg, I had no idea about the effect of Pregab, you go into those doses it becomes something else, the CEV's begin, you are melted into a lump of Candle Wax, walking isn't an option & you begin to loose touch with the body in a weird way.

 

[placebonaut]

you go into those doses it becomes something else, the CEV's begin, you are melted into a lump of Candle Wax, walking isn't an option & you begin to loose touch with the body in a weird way.

this is exactly my point too.

It's slightly different for me, at 900+ I get OEV, especially with lots of weed, more than that and co-ordination starts to go and I get wobbly.

however I never take pregab on it's own so there's usually some other thing going on at the same time too.

 

[Shambles]

I wasn't dick sizing in the least, all I was saying is you wanna really understand pregabalin high you gotta go way above 600mg.
I didn't do it for ages & always took 600mg till one day I was a bit Nihilist & decided to see what would happen after reading EROWID BTW SHAMBLES where people have posted taking 3500mg (dick sizing on Erowid huh?????)

I did 1350mg, I had no idea about the effect of Pregab, you go into those doses it becomes something else, the CEV's begin, you are melted into a lump of Candle Wax, walking isn't an option & you begin to loose touch with the body in a weird way.

As I said, dosage alone isn’t dicksizing. Saying things along the lines of “You don’t even know drug x until you reach dose y” definitely is.

Nobody knows shit beyond their own personal experiences. It’s both inaccurate and, yes, dicksizing to make objective claims about subjective experiences.

 

[Zopiclone bandit]

I don't understand the recreational part. Are you getting high from them?

Yes, very high off them.

I've taken them and gabapentin and have had no meaningful euphoria or anything. Nothing. If anything at all, they may cause some drowsiness. I would equate them to Benadryl.

YMMV I guess.

 

[Bare_head]

From my experience pregabilin effects me quite differently than most.

I was diagnosed with aspergers around 12 years ago or so.

I first was offered some by the psychiatrist and accepted being curious about what it is. Sounded a bit like how ghb would be.

I tried 75mg and nothing happend. I was rather disssapointed but heard reports of dangers going into high doses and gave up with them.


Little did I know or give it a chance that double that gave me an effect that lifted my mood and lowered my anxiety whilst having a speedy effect. The speedy effect would hit after taking 150mg only around the 90 minute mark. I could go to the gym without issues and still have lots of energy through the day aswell and found them a little too nice.

Then I began getting the 300mg ones as tolerance rose after a month or so of using most days, then I began hitting 600mg as 300mg wasnt doing it for me. 600mg really helped but gave me slightly more physical effects like loss of balance easier

I got as high as 1gram and realised for me their is a ceiling. I didnt want to push past that as risk of a seizure.

Im still taking just over 600mg and trying m6 hardest to come off them..

Even worse I have began taking alprazolam ontop at night and finding im getting a habit with those. They work very much like temazepam but with a little less euphoria I would say.

Anyways back to pregabilin imo they are good but not for long term use as with all drugs

 

[Bleaney]

From my experience pregabilin effects me quite differently than most.

I was diagnosed with aspergers around 12 years ago or so.

I first was offered some by the psychiatrist and accepted being curious about what it is. Sounded a bit like how ghb would be.

I tried 75mg and nothing happend. I was rather disssapointed but heard reports of dangers going into high doses and gave up with them.


Little did I know or give it a chance that double that gave me an effect that lifted my mood and lowered my anxiety whilst having a speedy effect. The speedy effect would hit after taking 150mg only around the 90 minute mark. I could go to the gym without issues and still have lots of energy through the day aswell and found them a little too nice.

Then I began getting the 300mg ones as tolerance rose after a month or so of using most days, then I began hitting 600mg as 300mg wasnt doing it for me. 600mg really helped but gave me slightly more physical effects like loss of balance easier

I got as high as 1gram and realised for me their is a ceiling. I didnt want to push past that as risk of a seizure.

Im still taking just over 600mg and trying m6 hardest to come off them..

Even worse I have began taking alprazolam ontop at night and finding im getting a habit with those. They work very much like temazepam but with a little less euphoria I would say.

Anyways back to pregabilin imo they are good but not for long term use as with all drugs

Many substances that boost GABA either indirectly or directly affect neurodivergent people more intensely I think. You might know that Autism is correlated with abnormally low levels of GABA in the brain, while ADHD is correlated with dopamine deficiencies.

I'm also AuDHD and I think that going for literally decades with no diagnoses led me to develop ingrained social anxiety.

Things like benzos, pregabs, and perhaps especially Phenibut just work more for ND folk, especially for those with co-morbid anxiety, it seems to me.

I see many people without a great deal of anxiety posting that they don't really see what the whole appeal of benzos is, which makes sense if they don't have barely anxiety for these substances to work on, then nothing much is going to be very noticeable.

So far I've found that Phenibut is the most amazing substance for reversing the social aversion, avoidance, anxiety, and general lack of reward or enjoyment derived from many social interactions, with the negatives outweighing the positives many times, especially if trying to 'raw dog' things without benzos. I've had so much positive reinforcement for using benzos, and so much negative reinforcement for not using them, that recent attempts to reduce or quit have just not made sense. Not while I have to work in environments that feel very socially demanding to me.

The last time I took Phenibut on a night out, I had an amazing time, I was way more interested in other people than I normally am, cared a lot more about how I was perceived and the impression I was creating, and felt that I had a lot more ability than normal to directly affect this by my own control, and found social interaction really enjoyable and exciting, and could tell that the feelings were reciprocated 100%! It was truly astonishing! It's been a long time since things felt like that!

Fair warning, all these substances come with really bad w/ds following habitual use. Phenibut IS a cure for many Autistic symptoms, ime/imo. God knows why there doesn't seem to be any research into this subject, it shows massive promise. But in general, Autism, especially in adults, that can sort of function and look after themselves, (despite having enormous difficulties doing so) is no ones priority. No one seems to give the slightest fuck about this population. That may be up to 5 - 10%, even 20%, when counting Autism, ADHD, and both conditions combined.

BUT the substance can quickly become habit forming, addictive, and has very nasty w/ds.

I wouldn't even like to think for a second about getting addicted to benzos, pregabs, and phenibut all at the same time. The w/ds would be unimaginably awful!

Pregabs and / or phenibut w/ds might arguable be even more hellish that benzo w/ds. Hence me sticking to benzos, rather than wither of the other 2 and my main form of self medicating relief.

I only use phenibut very very rarely, (I tend to feel quite emotionally and nervously 'rinsed out' afterwards) and I also limit my pregabs use as much as possible, certainly much less than any habitual daily use.