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Crude oil 4 aco dmt (can it be smoked or vaped)

Einzige said:
I've already died once buddy.

Regardless, no toxic side effect noted thus far.
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Me too.;) Your lifes your life but come on is it that important for you to trip that you want to ruin it for the rest of us. Who knows WTF can of worms would open when the gov. finds a dead body and a "crude psychedelic oil". It just surprises me how little people care I guess, though I know not why.
 
This "crude oil" upon further consideration is likely the result of an improper/partial hydrogen reduction followed by an acetylation of 4-BnO-glyoxyl-tryptamide... Shoddy lab work all round...
 
Are we being trolled again? There are other people here to consider, even if you don't value your health. Look what someone skipping an allergy test in Minnesota or Oklahoma did. We could very well have pending legislation thanks to you. So thumbs up, thanks buddy! 8)
 
Addam said:
Are we being trolled again? There are other people here to consider, even if you don't value your health. Look what someone skipping an allergy test in Minnesota or Oklahoma did. We could very well have pending legislation thanks to you. So thumbs up, thanks buddy! 8)
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As if legislation is not inevitable. As if the "dumbass" DEA doesn't know what's going on.

I'd bet they're watching these forums every day, even keeping tabs on members. For all we know they're in on it MK-Ultra style.

And why am I willing to take the risk? Well, I have my reasons and they're damn good ones.

This "crude oil" upon further consideration is likely the result of an improper/partial hydrogen reduction followed by an acetylation of 4-BnO-glyoxyl-tryptamide... Shoddy lab work all round..
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Anything particularly toxic about that?
 
Depending on synthesis route, there may be one or more of the following:
4-OH/4-BnO/4-AcO-glyoxyl-dimethyltryptamide and the hemi-reduced species, plus polymers and dimers of the same
4-OH/4-BnO/4-AcO-DMT, likely plus N-acetyl species
indole, acetylindoles
benzyl alcohol
ethyl acetate
benzyl acetate
acetic acid
water

If it is really "75% pure and 10% intermediary" then it's 15% solvents and other crap. Not worth using without a recrystallization I would say.
 
Einzige said:
And why am I willing to take the risk? Well, I have my reasons and they're damn good ones.
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There are more effective ways for killing/disabling yourself.

Without anyone actually analyzing this - not with their brain but proper equipment like an lc-ms, nmr, ir, etc. - anyone claiming that it is ok to use this stuff imho should be banned from the forums.
The risks of taking unknown compounds you order from the web aside, taking something that you KNOW is not the product claimed (anything <99% purity can be a health hazard, seriously) is just plain stupidity.

I wish these forums would do more in the regard of harm-reduction.
Edit the page-title and put a banner with 'the poster of this topic is a huge IDIOT' in the original post, I don't care.
 
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I really can't believe that several people in this forum are still considering consuming despite it being at least 25% impure. Frsnkly, I find it pretty sad.

anyone claiming that it is ok to use this stuff imho should be banned from the forums.
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Agreed, this is a harm reduction forum after all. All that this kind of behaviour does is encourage others to engage in reckless behaviour.
 
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Is it safe? Almost certainly. Suppose it's 75% pure, you take 32mg of it, yielding an effective dose of 24mg, with 8mg of crap. Are any of the plausible impurities so nasty that consuming 8mg of them would be a problem? Doesn't really look like it... For 8mg to be a problem, your impurity would have to be pretty fucking toxic, 8mg is not much material...

Regardless, the cost per dose of quality 4-AcO-DMT is low, and everyone and their mom sells it, so why bother with this dirty crap? I would certainly choose not to take it, in light of the availability of clean stuff (which could be dosed more accurately as well), as a matter of principle.
 
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