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ketamine v methoxetamine(mxe)

Oh yeah, its very 'antidepressive.' It works great for my back pain too. almost a wonder drug. Probably the one drug I would do every day or something if I had the money.
 
the best thing about Ketamine and methoxetamine is doing them both together!!!
do a bump of MXE then wait an hour or two and do a line of K...and shit it makes the K last like 3 or 4 hours!!!! its fucking incredible, insanely long trails, the world almost looks non-earth like. my favorite drug combination ever. I felt like i had super human strength and speed, i felt amazing. if you havent tried these two awesome drugs together, make sure you do because it is truly FUCKING INCREDIBLE
 
I loved ketamine and still do but I find the warmth and richness of MXE to be sorta like ketamine but a lot bettter... ketamine is very dissociative to me... everything seems sorta fractral or prizmatic... but mxe takes on this whole different smoothness and tactile warmth... ketamine now feels sorta jangly to me... and cold...

Not to mention mxe is perfectly legal to posess and prettty cheap if you buy a decent amount...
 
TestOfSanity said:
I have a question. I've been thinking about trying mxe. I have very limited ketamine experience, which was years ago, and I am not a fan of alcohol much at all. Does that mean I probably won't like it? I kind of like the alcohol buzz, but there's such a fine line between buzzed and drunk (which I hate), that can be crossed by less than one drink. At least to me.
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Pretty much same here, i really didnt like mxe at first but it has grown on me. setting is really important, u want to be in your bed listening to music. If u take anything more than threshold dose and you walk around you might get rly fucked up. I have done this several times, act like i drank 2 bottles of vodka, total 6 hour memory loss basically and broke a bunch of stuff. Now that i have learnt to control it and found the best way to take it my trips are way better, and i can take big doses without problem.

But be very careful with the dosing at first, start with like 10 mg and work your way up increasing 10 mg every time. and remember to close your eyes.
 
MXE is wonderful. Feels very warm and creates a nice, opiate-esque high. It's much more confusing than K, but in a nice "going with the flow" kind of way. I equate it in many ways to a 3rd plateau DXM experience, only shorter and friendlier. The "punch" of K is nice, but MXE has just as much punch when you move onto intramuscular dosing. I don't really like any other dosing methods with MXE.

K is a lot colder and less friendly I've found. The body high is more of a fluff feeling than a warmth (similar to nitrous) and it has more of an enhancing effect on the senses whereas MXE tends to alter them more. K is very, very "clean", but almost too clean. I find that I need to smoke weed with it to get the most out of the experience, unless I'm doing a high dose.

Overall, two lovely and completely different substances, but MXE is superior in my eyes.
 
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Its definitely K for me. I would say I have done K around 100+ times and MXE about 15 times. This is why I am continuing to work with MXE as I am hoping I grow to love it like I did with Ketamine.

Anyway I prefer K because:

Kicks in a lot faster
Never had a bad trip from K (Had a panic attack on MXE from doing too much)
I can control my k-holes (MXE too confusing)
K is a lot more visual for me
 
As people have already stated, the most obvious difference is in the comeup and duration, however plugging mxe is much more effective than plugging ketamine, so it is possible to get a rush/15 minute come up without using needles with mxe, it's just quite as scarface/social as snorting.

The other thing that I find striking is the completely different levels of stimulation, I mean ketamine is stimulating in its own way, but it lacks that 'get up and MOVE' component that mxe has. Methoxetamine is sorta like an upper in the way that ketamine is sorta like a downer. I'm quite sensitive to stimulants- I suffer from chronic insomnia and anything with a 'stimulant edge' WILL cause me to not be able to sleep properly for 24 hours+. This is a major reason I don't enjoy meth/mdma and why I don't take LSD/DOX/2C-X more often, despite enjoying the experience thoroughly. In this regard it feels more like pcp than ketamine.

To be honest, I'm quite torn between which one I like more. Ketamine is a much 'friendlier' drug, as others have pointed out, even if you have a terrible time you're going to be coming down to earth is no more than 2 hours, it doesn't interfere with my sleep and I seem to experience less black outs/have a better recall of K-holes vs M-holes...but as the same time mxe has its own distinctive magic. Just because you enjoy ket does not necessarily mean you will enjoy mxe, however for those who can deal with its duration/manic behaviour and occasional psychotic thought processes I would argue that it can provide a more immerive, compelling and psychedelic (mind-expanding) than ketamine. At times ketamine can be a bit 'all rush, no reward' which can lead to redosing to chase the high (for instance, to try to continue to interact with some entity within the k-hole), but if you get the dosage and ROA right mxe can provide a glorious, sharmanic dissociative trip no less valuable than ketamine.

But then again the whole 'methoxetamine' thing is all bullshit, mxe is 3-meo-2-oxo-PCE; it is as closely related to 3-meo-PCE and PCE as it is to ketamine. They have a similar mechanisms of action (Uncompetative NMDAR anatagonism mediated varying levels of mu, sigma, dopamine activity etc they are have very complicated effects on the body), but the effects themselves are different. It's sorta like the difference between morphine and methadone- both clearly opioids, both clearly completely different animals.
 
I used to love K but now MXE took its place. I hope someday someone will make a mxe analogue with the same dri properties but less dissociative.
 
limonov said:
To be honest, I'm quite torn between which one I like more. Ketamine is a much 'friendlier' drug, as others have pointed out, even if you have a terrible time you're going to be coming down to earth is no more than 2 hours, it doesn't interfere with my sleep and I seem to experience less black outs/have a better recall of K-holes vs M-holes...but as the same time mxe has its own distinctive magic. Just because you enjoy ket does not necessarily mean you will enjoy mxe, however for those who can deal with its duration/manic behaviour and occasional psychotic thought processes I would argue that it can provide a more immerive, compelling and psychedelic (mind-expanding) than ketamine. At times ketamine can be a bit 'all rush, no reward' which can lead to redosing to chase the high (for instance, to try to continue to interact with some entity within the k-hole), but if you get the dosage and ROA right mxe can provide a glorious, sharmanic dissociative trip no less valuable than ketamine.
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^^^this pretty much sums up how I feel as well. I haven't touched ketamine since I started fooling with methoxetamine back at the beginning of April. I sometimes miss its' sweet embrace, but the mxe is just more energizing and versatile in comparison. I sort of feel like ketamine was my first wife and methoxetamine is my second wife:\
 
MXE is what I have call a 'dead-end drug'… in that it just doesn't go anywhere and there is no further scope for exploration. It's nice an' all, but once the fun is over, it just lingers. Ketamine is: snort, bang, whoosh and you're done - all within an hour. With MXE, you wait 30-45 minutes to feel it, then it doesn't go away for hours after that.

I have never had a Ketmine experience I didn't enjoy - one way or another! With MXE, it's not unpleasant, but sometimes it's not really an experience… I once likened it to sitting in a dark, empty cinema, waiting for a film to start that never does :)

I also once likened Ketamine to a guest to turns up to a party, already in high spirits, all revved up and lairy… who has a laugh, gets on with everyone, makes a bit of a scene, but tidies up after himself in the morning. MXE, on the other hand is the quiet guy that you think is harmless and stands in the corner all night sipping his drink, not bothering anyone… but then is the guy who just won't leave when the party is waaaay over and everyone else has gone home. :)
 
7zark7 said:
I also once likened Ketamine to a guest to turns up to a party, already in high spirits, all revved up and lairy… who has a laugh, gets on with everyone, makes a bit of a scene, but tidies up after himself in the morning. MXE, on the other hand is the quiet guy that you think is harmless and stands in the corner all night sipping his drink, not bothering anyone… but then is the guy who just won't leave when the party is waaaay over and everyone else has gone home. :)
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Spot on lol.
 
Roughly 200mg mxe over the course of 3 hours really sent me 'in there'. I took around 80mg at 3pm, and racked up the rest of my 250mg (170mg) into 4 lines. I snorted 2 of the lines at 6pm, and another when I started feeling it again. The onset was much quicker the second time I dosed, whereas it took 45 min after snorting the first time for effects to show. Time was gone, and I felt like I was suddenly on trial, like all of my life had led me to this exact moment of judgement. I felt naked and humiliated standing on a pedestal before god. I felt like I was dead yet I couldn't be more alive. This strange moment seemed interconnected with my entire life like it was the start and beginning and I was reliving it all over again. My girlfriend made a surprise visit and found me in this state. She was so worried she flushed the last line of mxe down the toilet and my recently purchased 2g of mpa. I didn't mind. At the time I thought she was saving my life. She became my savior and it when then I realized she is my other half and I had found my true love.

Fuck I'm going back. One day.
 
I have always been interested in Ketamine and only recently was it offered to me at a rave. I declined as it was about the same price as cocaine, which is ridiculously expensive IMO for a drug that is probably just diverted pharmacuetically produced material... One day I hope to be able to imbibe in this substance without becoming uselessly addicted and broke as fuck.
 
7zark7 said:
MXE is what I have call a 'dead-end drug'… in that it just doesn't go anywhere and there is no further scope for exploration. It's nice an' all, but once the fun is over, it just lingers. Ketamine is: snort, bang, whoosh and you're done - all within an hour. With MXE, you wait 30-45 minutes to feel it, then it doesn't go away for hours after that.

I have never had a Ketmine experience I didn't enjoy - one way or another! With MXE, it's not unpleasant, but sometimes it's not really an experience… I once likened it to sitting in a dark, empty cinema, waiting for a film to start that never does :)

I also once likened Ketamine to a guest to turns up to a party, already in high spirits, all revved up and lairy… who has a laugh, gets on with everyone, makes a bit of a scene, but tidies up after himself in the morning. MXE, on the other hand is the quiet guy that you think is harmless and stands in the corner all night sipping his drink, not bothering anyone… but then is the guy who just won't leave when the party is waaaay over and everyone else has gone home. :)
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^ This :D
 
I only tried Ketamine twice two years ago. It was one of the first recreational drugs I tried. Ketamine is much more BAM in your face, it just completely knocked me out. I didn't really enjoy Ketamine but MXE I love it a little too much.
 
I got 5 grams of ketamine to play around with a while ago. It was fun, I had a nice time, but I didn't really feel the bang. Yeah, I got super fucking high, I could barely move, and it made every moment feel...poetic? but in the end it really didn't take me anywhere interesting and was too sedating. Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't turn up a line, but I'd take MXE over K any day of the week. MXE is a trip I submit myself to. When you give MXE some time, learn to understand it's ways, it will take you on a journey through every dimension. You will slide between universe, it feels like being submerged in a tunnel of whipped marshmallow and you can feel every twist and turn on the way. Music takes on new dimensions. Every song has it's own feeling, it's own effects. It's like every song is a drug that you consume with your ears. You open your eyes and they won't focus properly, it's like being crosseyed and seeing 4 dimensions at the same time. Objects rotate without moving, hover and change size, become flat while maintaining the illusion of 3d and screens become dimensions to other universes. I can't tell you how many times I've come out of an M hole and marveled at a screen, completely flat but infinitely deep. Sometimes things go wrong, it's the nature of the beast, but so many more times things go completely and utterly right. High doses of MXE have more OEVs than K for me. High doses of MXE have slightly better CEVs, but K showed much better CEVs in lower doses.

If you like your highs to hit you fast then consider IMing. I know, needles are scary but honestly it's painless, pretty safe and in my opinion makes the high significantly better (besides the fact it saves you significant amounts of MXE)
 
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