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ketamine v methoxetamine(mxe)

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i have heard such mixed reports of the two. some say mxe is horrible and a waste of time and others say it is cheaper, lasts longer, and is just as good if not better than k.

please tell me your thoughts. i value ketamine for its antidepressive effects yet at this time i do not think i will be able to procure it. mxe on the other hand i know several vendors for.

maybe it is possible that the people with negative reviews got a bad batch from a jerk supplier? i do not know. MAYBE a lot of people that are using mxe have never tried ketamine because they cannot obtain it! i could see both these scenarios.

please give me your thoughts. BL is great for getting opinions on stuff like this.

ps: at this point in my life nothing has really helped me like ketamine as for my depression. i value it and would always like to keep a small amount of it for when i get in a bad way. daily use it not cool with me, though it does happen. my intentions are probably moot, so yeah.

THANK YOU.
 
I'm a regular user of K since few years .
And i must say the two substance are completly different .
Mxe is mutch stronger than k , but less heavy on the physics .
With little dose ( 10-50 mg ) , nice feeling, really zen thougth , make me thing of opiate.
Whit higher dose ( 100-300mg ) , really interessting , you're going to another world , like a shamanic trip ( last nigth me and my friend was walking in the forest , and we take little stone as protection talisman for the safety of the trip , wtf !!! )
But k is more comfortable , it's easy because you can be really high and be clear after 2 hours.
 
for me ketamine is far more paralysing than MXE and lacks the warmth. but too much MXE can go horribly wrong, i have just had more bad experiences off ketamine, and more positive experiences off methoxetamine.

they aren't all that similar
 
ketamine has a much faster onset, at least when snorted, and hits harder. because of this, it has a distinct "punch" to it, similar to smoking weed compared to eating weed. it is short acting, which can be an advantage, but also makes it VERY susceptible for binging. ket also feels more lucid and sharp to me, with a more pleasant body-buzz than mxe. tolerance builds very quickly with ketamine (which will lead to a fucked-up nose/sore muscles, and an empty wallet). can be hard to source and cut/impure ketamine is quite prevalent.

mxe is slow & long acting, making it less harder hitting. it is less lucid and less visually stimulating than ketamine for me. once it hits, it is very pleasant, and a bit more friendly than ketamine. can be a bit confusing. can also get sort of stimulating near the end (dopamine-related?). much less suited to binging, can get unpleasant with repeated dosing. is easy to find, without impurities.

i used to prefer ketamine for its short acting, hard hitting effects and its relative lucidity. however, tolerance rose and quality dropped, so i don't really bother with it any more. if i purchase some, i'll binge thru it quite rapidly, and am dissappointed by how much i needed and how much i spent on it.
 
lurching said:
ketamine has a much faster onset, at least when snorted, and hits harder. because of this, it has a distinct "punch" to it, similar to smoking weed compared to eating weed. it is short acting, which can be an advantage, but also makes it VERY susceptible for binging. ket also feels more lucid and sharp to me, with a more pleasant body-buzz than mxe. tolerance builds very quickly with ketamine (which will lead to a fucked-up nose/sore muscles, and an empty wallet). can be hard to source and cut/impure ketamine is quite prevalent.

mxe is slow & long acting, making it less harder hitting. it is less lucid and less visually stimulating than ketamine for me. once it hits, it is very pleasant, and a bit more friendly than ketamine. can be a bit confusing. can also get sort of stimulating near the end (dopamine-related?). much less suited to binging, can get unpleasant with repeated dosing. is easy to find, without impurities.

i used to prefer ketamine for its short acting, hard hitting effects and its relative lucidity. however, tolerance rose and quality dropped, so i don't really bother with it any more. if i purchase some, i'll binge thru it quite rapidly, and am dissappointed by how much i needed and how much i spent on it.
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my thoughts exactly. Ketamine is much more lucid and sharp than MXE. Personally tho i think the duration of the two is the most critical difference. Ketamine can be managed, if you don't like it then it ends pretty quickly. MXE on the other hand lasts a much longer and makes one prang out a bit. Its not wonky in the sense that K is, like MXE is not good for laughing at the fact that you can't walk without falling on your face lol.

Ketamine also tastes much nicer than MXE imo. eugh I hate the taste of MXE. Ket has a nice kind of menthol feel to it lol
 
yeah, the taste is great, but once your tolerance is at the point where you're taking 100-200mg lines, then the ket drip gets really unrelentingly bad. then, a short while after snorting, your stuffed sinusses will start drying out, as well as the rest of your nose, which will now rapidly clog up with weird keta-snot. and, ugh, the next morning you'll still have a raw, half-clogged nose.
 
really, the biggest part of ketamine's appeal is for me, too, the way it hits. like having a good sip of whisky, a hit of a joint or a bump of cocaine. instant reward. i also enjoy the muscle relaxation and the positive mindset it puts me in, but i mostly like the very first effects washing over me.
 
I have a question. I've been thinking about trying mxe. I have very limited ketamine experience, which was years ago, and I am not a fan of alcohol much at all. Does that mean I probably won't like it? I kind of like the alcohol buzz, but there's such a fine line between buzzed and drunk (which I hate), that can be crossed by less than one drink. At least to me.
 
^I really know what you mean. I have never been big on alcohol either, although I have been plastered on it far too many times than I would like to remember. The experience of being drunk is a terrible and useless state to be in. Since stopping benzodiazepines at the end of 2010, I have only drunk alcohol a couple or three times, a few beers here and there.

However, I did used to be bang on the ketamine. There are similariities with the alcohol experience, but there are also vast differences which set it aside as being a completely different drug expereince. Alcohol doesn't provide the visionary experience that ketamine and it's close cousins do. Alcohol does not put you in a state where temporal laws are suspended and you can navigate seemingly infinite recursions of dimentionality to the universe. Whereas alcohol simply "fucks you up" at high doses, ketamine goes way beyond that state to allow your mind to venture subatomic realms free of the locationary restraints of the physical body.

I have to say though, the visionary aspects of ketamine only seem to be present as long as you are not using it on a regular basis. As soon as it becomes a habit, those elements of the experience diminish until it becomes simply a route to escape the normal chaos of everyday life. At this point, the experience does more resemble high-dose alcohol, albeit without many of the negative side-effects. (although ketamine overuse has horrible side-effects of its own).

edit: this is not a recommendation though.
 
Ketamine - Better visuals, though the body buzz is more cold and mechanical
MXE - Lovely warm body buzz, less visuals but still feels very psychedelic, and personally I think its antidepressant effects are better (in doses ~15-20mg plugged or ~25-30mg sublingual with a bit of tolerance - plugged is *always* the best ROA with this chem though, much better high than double the dose sublingual/oral/snorted imo) than K's but YMMV
 
ok, well i did not expect that much of a response but hey!

thank you ALL for responding. you really did help me get an impression of mxe. the k i used in the past was racemic powder and the visual trip inside my mind was amazing. recently i procured some s isomer ket from vials and i never even really tripped while IVing it!!!! it just made me fuzzy and relaxed and at high doses(100mg IV) i would sit in bed and feel like i was floating into another world.

i think that I DID NOT USE IT with the lights off and that is why i didnt get much visuals. im not sure though. i thought i had top of the line s isomer vials and IVing it would be the fucking the way to get a true ket experience. alas i didnt get much.

so im thinking i need to get some racemic powder but its TOO EXPENSIVE.

so now im considering mxe. i would like the warmth of it. but really i want to use it for the antidepresive effects. the k i had made me feel happy for the first time in forever. i was so happy to be with my girl and walk outside. it really lifted my depressive, angry, pissy mood i get. it was great.

still.....i did binge. i couldnt help but take shots like 5 times a day.....it just made me feel good. so maybe mxe is a better choice. with money right now it seems like the ONLY choice. so thank you. now i just have to find a fucking vendor that wont rip me off. i hate this game. wish it was local.

THANK YOU.
 
also, can you function on mxe? like are you totally paralyzed? can you talk to people? i know it lasts a long time so im wondering if you can only do it like most hallucinogens and not go to work on it. let me know. thaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaanks.
 
With 15mg doses of MXE it is quite easy to function, but it still makes you walk like a robot but I think most people would just think you'd had maybe two or three pints of beer. Higher doses is when speech begins to slur and it's pretty obvious you aren't sober. I used to be really into stimulants but AMT and this are my new favourites. I tried Ketamine once two years ago and I found it too mongy, and the drip was nasty!
 
The only thing MXE does for me is sending me to an unpleasant land of confusion, low doses however can be alright but not magical if you ask me. I haven't tried ketamine.
 
Bone14 said:
The only thing MXE does for me is sending me to an unpleasant land of confusion, low doses however can be alright but not magical if you ask me. I haven't tried ketamine.
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This has been my experience as well, but users with more notches on their belts have told me it "gets better" over time.
 
JBrandon said:
This has been my experience as well, but users with more notches on their belts have told me it "gets better" over time.
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I am willing to give it another try, ill order 250mg next month and see how it goes.
 
JBrandon said:
This has been my experience as well, but users with more notches on their belts have told me it "gets better" over time.
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I havent tried MXE, but thats how Ketamine was for me - the first few times I did it, I wasnt sure I liked it, was just kinda wierd, but after a few more tries I grew to enjoy it.
 
TestOfSanity said:
I have a question. I've been thinking about trying mxe. I have very limited ketamine experience, which was years ago, and I am not a fan of alcohol much at all. Does that mean I probably won't like it? I kind of like the alcohol buzz, but there's such a fine line between buzzed and drunk (which I hate), that can be crossed by less than one drink. At least to me.
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You will love MXE. It feels like a perfect dose of alcohol. I don't like drinking either, and this stuff I adore. This is prefect for you. Great to chill on, feel a little drunk, and also I don't like alcohol either, but I love MXE. Never tried K, love MXE. If you got a bad batch, the shit will sting like it did in mines, too salty as well, probably cut with salt and recrystallized. Real MXE is slightly 'stuffy', a very fine powder, very comfortable on the nose, and almost sweet tasting, but its actually salty if that makes any sense.
 
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