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Opioids Morphine Mega Thread & FAQ'S

I have some 60mg sustained release capsules,
they seem to dissolve really well in water for plugging ( after crushing up the little beads)
are these suitable for IV after micron filtering?

seems theres a lot of info on the pills and not much about the capsules...
thanks!
 
Prepping morphine pills for IV - best method

Firstly, sorry if this is old news, but I find this to be a vastly superior method and yet I couldn't really find anything on it. If this is already common knowledge or something, let me know. But as it stands I thought it could be very helpful to some.

I used to get morphine for very cheap, sometimes free, and I was looking into how to IV them. After much internet research, I came to the conclusion that the best way was to use cold water and not cook the pill. I found this to be a very poor method, as it was still very gelly and took forever to draw up into the rig. When I would try to shoot the gelly mess, I would indeed feel the morphine, but without fail I would get a quite bad cotton-fever-ish sickness that would have me weak, shivering, and cursing myself for trying doing it. I tried this method probably 6 or 7 times, with small variations, and sure enough, sick every time. Cotton fever was a pretty rare thing for me, so I know for a fact it wasn't that. Even when I would thin the solution by adding enough water to make 2 full syringes, it still got me sick. I would rub a little bit between my fingers and it would be all slimy and sticky. I used to shoot OP oxys too, using the method of cooking the pill without water until it turns brown, and etc., and though the result ended up being a much thicker and heavier gel, even that still never got me sick like the morphine did.

So I gave up on IV morphine having only gotten it once in the hospital, and started to simply IM the gelatinous goop. But we all know, IV morphine is a hundred times more effective than any other ROA (snorted or IMed, anything less than 100 mg was worthless, and it would take 200 to be really worthwhile, even after weeks of no use, but IVed, a mere 10-15 mg would be enough to have me on the floor if I hadn't been doing it too regularly), so I asked around, and one of my friends let me in on a simple yet crucial detail. Most pills (at least all the ones I've come across) will gel up at first contact with water. This is why it's relatively ineffective whether you cook it or not, in the normal fashion you'd cook a pill. When exposed to boiling water, however, it will not gel up, but rather just absorb in the hot water, much like any normal pill. Once it's gelled, it's gelled, and hot water won't make a difference at that point. So, what you must do is:

1.) Put the water in the spoon/cooker (don't worry about using an excessive amount), and heat it until it starts boiling.

2.) Drop your pill in, while still holding the heat source under the cooker. You should notice it just dissolves in the liquid with no gel whatsoever. You can crush up the pill, or not, and scrape off the coating, or not. I find it doesn't make much of a difference except it takes slightly less time to dissolve completely when you crush it, but I usually just keep the coating on and drop the pill in whole.

3.) (Work quickly here) It's important that you drop in your filter as soon as you take the lighter off the spoon, and draw it up while it's still nice and hot. If you let it cool, it will turn to gel. You should also notice that once your liquid is drawn up, the remainder of the pill has formed a hard gelly mass in the spoon, so you can see all the waxes and stuff that you didn't draw up. Discard that; basically all the morphine should be in your rig at this point

4.) Squirt a tiny bit of the liquid onto your finger, and rub it. There should be no slimy/sticky/gel in there. It should feel just like water. Taste it; it should be bitter (but if you're shooting morphine you already know opiates are bitter :)). It's ready to go, so shoot it, but hopefully you know that shooting really hot liquid into your bloodstream can cause problems. Run the rig under the faucet or just wait for it to cool down.

I can confirm that this works with the ABGs, Endos (these: http://www.pharmer.org/images/domestic/endo-family) and the Mallinckrodt ones (these: http://www.pharmer.org/images/domestic/morphine-m-30). I haven't tried it with anything else and I would imagine it works on all of them (maybe someone with any other brands can try it and confirm?). I have shot many pills this way, and have yet to experience getting the cotton fever sickness from it even once, versus literally every single time with the other methods.

Again, if you guys already know about this, then I apologize. If not, why doesn't someone try and let me know how it works out.
 
So you signed up for this site in 2005, but posted this. First of all, never ever cook your pills. Pretty much everything there you posted is wrong, no offense, just saying. Here is a thread you should read like it's the bible before you break out the needles ever again. More to come. That thread may even convince you to just stay away from the needles, unless you would literally give your arm to bang morphine. I decided there were safer ways to get high myself...


http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=487276
 
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So you signed up for this site in 2005, but posted this. First of all, never ever cook your pills. Pretty much everything there you posted is wrong, no offense, just saying. Here is a thread you should read like it's the bible before you break out the needles ever again. More to come. That thread may even convince you to just stay away from the needles, unless you would literally give your arm to bang morphine. I decided there were safer ways to get high myself...


http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=487276

How is everything I posted wrong? I've done this many times and it worked like a charm. Why never cook pills? I usually never did unless I had to. Thanks for the link; I actually haven't shot anything in quite some time now, but there is plenty of good info there.

And yes, I know about micron filters and I understand they are much better. I never bothered because regular cotton always worked fine and never caused any problems for me, in the 5 years or so I was shooting.

So would anyone care to try this, or tell me if there's some reason this is a bad idea (moreso than just shooting pills in general, I mean)?
 
How is everything I posted wrong? I've done this many times and it worked like a charm. Why never cook pills? I usually never did unless I had to. Thanks for the link; I actually haven't shot anything in quite some time now, but there is plenty of good info there.

And yes, I know about micron filters and I understand they are much better. I never bothered because regular cotton always worked fine and never caused any problems for me, in the 5 years or so I was shooting.

So would anyone care to try this, or tell me if there's some reason this is a bad idea (moreso than just shooting pills in general, I mean)?

Well, heating pills puts far more into solution than the drug you desire. Micron filtering does as the name implies, and removes contaminants that are smaller than you can see from your solution. You might not think these are dangerous, but over time, they are. There are blood vessels in your body that are smaller than you can see, and thus catch these particles. They can cause some very bad things over time. I'm sure you got high man, you injected morphine, its all the other stuff thats very bad for you, and just because you can't see it doesn't mean it's there. Your method is what causes the pictures of blue fingers, and gangrene in the thread I linked you. We don't encourage dangerous methods of injection, this site is about harm reduction. This is why I told you most of your post was wrong, its nothing personal, it just is.
 
Well, heating pills puts far more into solution than the drug you desire. Micron filtering does as the name implies, and removes contaminants that are smaller than you can see from your solution. You might not think these are dangerous, but over time, they are. There are blood vessels in your body that are smaller than you can see, and thus catch these particles. They can cause some very bad things over time. I'm sure you got high man, you injected morphine, its all the other stuff thats very bad for you, and just because you can't see it doesn't mean it's there. Your method is what causes the pictures of blue fingers, and gangrene in the thread I linked you. We don't encourage dangerous methods of injection, this site is about harm reduction. This is why I told you most of your post was wrong, its nothing personal, it just is.

This is true, micron filtering really should be done if you are going to be injecting from tablets, syrups, etc.
 
I think if the OP has a method that makes the solution less gelled (and thus has a lesser proportion of filler material) then it IS reducing harm as compared to, say, the way I used to cook morphine when I got it in pill form (cook till goop and keep adding water till you get 100 units, re-heating with the cigarette filter popping around in the spoon [yikes]). The OP's method isn't perfect (wheel filters are better, cold water extraction is better) but it can reduce harm if people are overcooking and want to reduce the harm they're doing to their bodies. People are right to point out there are better ways to do it, but harm reduction is a spectrum. Also: not everyone has a credit card to order micron filters over the internet.

I'm not saying it's a good method, but I would cut the OP some slack.
 
I think if the OP has a method that makes the solution less gelled (and thus has a lesser proportion of filler material) then it IS reducing harm as compared to, say, the way I used to cook morphine when I got it in pill form (cook till goop and keep adding water till you get 100 units, re-heating with the cigarette filter popping around in the spoon [yikes]). The OP's method isn't perfect (wheel filters are better, cold water extraction is better) but it can reduce harm if people are overcooking and want to reduce the harm they're doing to their bodies. People are right to point out there are better ways to do it, but harm reduction is a spectrum. Also: not everyone has a credit card to order micron filters over the internet.

I'm not saying it's a good method, but I would cut the OP some slack.

If we are going through the trouble of coming here for info, why not just do it the right way? I'm sure there are ways to make it worse, not trying to give the OP a hard time at all :) There's just the right way to do it, then there's everything else.
 
Sounds like the OP is shooting mscontins. If you don't filter these right and get out the gel you are going to end up with atleast a abscess and i don't even wanna think about what all those particles can do over time. Sadly i get these and there is a way to prep them so the resulting solution is clear of any gel, sticky feeling when rubbed on your fingers or anything like that. But the important thing is as said above is to ALWAYS use a micron filter. I am stuck with mscontins and after cooking them and then micron filtering them twice there is much less crap in them then if you used a cotton filter. Also micron filters soak up less of the drug but more of the particles :)

MScontins and the generics are the worst for injecting though. Well the worst ive had anyway. Kadians and m-esslons are not exactly great either but are easier to deal with then mscontins.
 
when I used morphine people used to hate the Canadian generic football-shaped 60s, but they cooked up super easy for me. once the pill was heated in water and crushed all the filler stuck together and all the morphine was in the water. they probably didn't need heat, what do I know? the nice thing about the heat was it made all the (visible) filler join into one big blob. junkies assumed the morphine was in the big blob of filler (which was obviously too thick to suck into a syringe) and paid extra for ms contin. a wheel filter would've been better to use, but I'd never heard of them until after I stopped injecting and came here.
 
when I used morphine people used to hate the Canadian generic football-shaped 60s, but they cooked up super easy for me. once the pill was heated in water and crushed all the filler stuck together and all the morphine was in the water. they probably didn't need heat, what do I know? the nice thing about the heat was it made all the (visible) filler join into one big blob. junkies assumed the morphine was in the big blob of filler (which was obviously too thick to suck into a syringe) and paid extra for ms contin. a wheel filter would've been better to use, but I'd never heard of them until after I stopped injecting and came here.

Ya the ratiopharm 60mg generic mscontins are a bitch to prep right enough. The coating is thick as fuck and there's alot of wax in them. I used to occasionally shoot these too but not often since i usually had dilaudid name brand 4mg pills when i had these. The wax separates from the morphine when heated and if you do it right you won't taste any morphine from the wax you scrape off.

A micron filter is pretty much a must for shooting any pills but when it comes to mscontins you absolutely have to use a micron filter. I would be very surprised if cotton filtering got out all the wax.

I am assuming micron filters would get out all the wax but anyone who knows better please feel free to correct me :\
 
Cotton filtering then micron filtering would be best for the pills that gel, although I do not inject them myself.

If anyone has successfully micron filtered these pills they can say so, I just haven't done so myself. I am pretty sure MS Contin's can be micron filtered though as I do believe I have heard of a friend who did this.
 
Cotton filtering then micron filtering would be best for the pills that gel, although I do not inject them myself.

If anyone has successfully micron filtered these pills they can say so, I just haven't done so myself. I am pretty sure MS Contin's can be micron filtered though as I do believe I have heard of a friend who did this.

Yea, I would filter, filter, then filter again with these things. Waxy pills are notorious for abscesses which is why I didn't shoot them when I was in the needle works. When you irresponsibly shoot these pills, it's not IF you will get an abscess, but WHEN. You can be a pro with the needle, but you will still miss a shot every now and then. My father can hit a vein in the dark, and even he was known to miss on occasion. I just stayed away from them, wasn't worth it.
 
Yea, I would filter, filter, then filter again with these things. Waxy pills are notorious for abscesses which is why I didn't shoot them when I was in the needle works. When you irresponsibly shoot these pills, it's not IF you will get an abscess, but WHEN. You can be a pro with the needle, but you will still miss a shot every now and then. My father can hit a vein in the dark, and even he was known to miss on occasion. I just stayed away from them, wasn't worth it.

Out of all the people around here who shoot these pills i am one of the few i know who hasn't gotten a abscess. I have kinda partially missed shots from mscontin type pills since i can usually feel the burn of morphine if it's out of a vein at all i have only maybe 3 times or so have missed the whole shot. I have never gotten any complications but i am really really glad to now have a fuck load of micron filters.
 
I know everyone says don't heat pills,but unfortunately if all you have is MS Contin and a 1 ml barrels,heat is infact needed.it is a horrible nasty solution to inject,but hey,some of us can't get H or afford an OC 80 when we could get several M 100's for the same price.

My advice would be not to bang MS Contin at all,its one of the worst pills to shoot(physically that is)The rush is great and everything,but I know I'm going to have health issues when Im older due to daily IV MS Contin abuse.
 
So I am curious as to what causes the 'pins and needles' rush/feeling you get when injecting morphine?

I have read through this mega thread and have searched and searched but cant find the answer. What I got from what I did read was thats its a histamine reaction. Not too sure if that is correct tho. Or would it be its the histamine in the morphine that gives this type of rush?

Either way whatever it is I love it. Some people do not but I sure do! :)

What indrediant or what causes this heavenly feeling when morphine is injected?

Anyone that knows I would sure love to hear you knowledge on this.

Thank you!!


I have never gotten the pins & needles effect from Morphine. I have scratched my arms while I was sleeping, that was weird.
 
The pins & needles is basically a massive histamine reaction.
In my case it feels literally like someone poking every inch of your body with a needle repeatedly.
Often times this is accompanied by massive itching & burning to the point of being painful.
Though this may be because of the doses involved.
Another point that lends credence to the histamine idea is that oftentimes one turns red after a shot.
This redness oftentimes moves from the injection site up the head & then down to the feet.
The redness is accompanied by the pins & needles in the affected areas.
Another point of note is that the pins & needles is dose dependent.
If your using a regular insulin syringe (1cc) your dosage is limited & as such it might not be overwhelming.
Now if your using say a 3cc barrel & as such can dose higher then your much more likely to experience the pins.
As as far as I recall morphine's solubility is approx 65mg per ML.
I don't have the time to double check that figure at the moment but it's close enough.
Once you move onto the larger barrel size & the increased dosages that are available as a result,
chances are you'll really get the pins & needles.

Personally I'm not to keen on the full pins & needles effect.
As such I take hydroxyzine or a similar anti-histamine prior to my shot.
If I time it right I can reduce the histamine reaction (pins & needles) to a pleasant sensation.
As opposed to being intense to the point of being painful that I would experience otherwise.
Or if I take the anti-histamine to early it sometimes completely eliminates the pins & needles entirely.
If I want a wake up call then I might skip the anti-histamine as the pins & needles definitely gets my attention. ;)
Otherwise I'll take my anti-histamine & go.

Considering that the anti-histamines reduce/remove the pins & needles I would assume it's mostly a histamine reaction.

Hope that helps answer your question.

Note: Obviously this all applies to IV usage, your not going to be getting a rush &/or pins / needles with other ROA's.
 
^ No problem.

Glad that I was able to be of assistance.
I've recently returned to the forum & am getting back into the answering questions & helping others mode.
Just happy to see that I can be of use. :)

Also it's good to see you don't use syringes.
Keep it that way, it's a road you don't wanna go down.
Sorry I just have to throw that in there, as I feel obligated to warn against that route.
Even though I use it myself, it's a love/hate relationship that dominates one's life.
So there's some HR for this post, so it's something more than me saying glad to help ya. ;)
 
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