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Moisture got into my MDMA powder capsules [image]

tweakyb said:
Even if it is lower, I very highly doubt the average user will have their MDMA exposed to anything above 45C (113F).
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Idk dude, 113 F isn't that hot. If you leave a bag with some molly in coat in your closet over the summer, and forget about it (which is pretty easy to do), it will most likely get that hot or hotter.

Studies were conducted, observing changes over a 10- week period, on the stability of 3,4-methylenedioxyamphetamine (MDA), 3,4-methylenedioxymethamphetamine (MDMA), 3,4-methylenedioxyethylamphetamine(MEDA) and N-methyl 1-(3, 4-methylenedioxyphenyl)-2- butamine (MBDB) in oral fluids stored at room, refrigerated and frozen temperature. For all compounds in the oral fluid, degradation was observed. MDA, MDMA, MDEA and MDMB faced losses of 31%, 28%, 38% and 37% respectively. Except MDA (P< 0.05), where a greater decrease occurred at room temperature than the other temperatures, all other changes were independent of temperature.
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Even if you double that temperature to 90C (194F), it will most likely still be fine. My room can get up to 33C (91F) in the summer and I store subtances in my closet just fine. Major heat difference between my bedroom and closet.
 
Quoting my quote pertaining to the degradation of MDA specifically (since that's what I used in my original example): MDA (P< 0.05), where a greater decrease occurred at room temperature than the other temperatures

Meaning that MDA lost more than 31% (as 31% is the avg loss) at room temp.
 
Were talking about MDMA........ :| And they were in oral fluids, so the theory of temperature degradation is debunked because the samples were also exposed to moisture.
 
tweakyb said:
Were talking about MDMA........ :| And they were in oral fluids, so the theory of temperature degradation is debunked because the samples were also exposed to moisture.
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We should be talking about just MDxx. It's more proper since very few people have the kit needed to differentiate between MDMA and MDA.

The theory is not debunked, as MDxx is often exposed to moisture (this thread being an example) BEFORE it is exposed to heat. Unless you try to smoke it.
 
Again, you would have to deliberately expose it to that much heat if you want it to degrade. And AGAIN if you were to do something as stupid as applying direct heat to your drugs, you don't deserve to have them.
 
Keaton said:
Again, you would have to deliberately expose it to that much heat if you want it to degrade. And AGAIN if you were to do something as stupid as applying direct heat to your drugs, you don't deserve to have them.
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Again

Except MDA (P< 0.05), where a greater decrease occurred at room temperature than the other temperatures
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Except MDA (P< 0.05), where a greater decrease occurred at room temperature than the other temperatures
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Except MDA (P< 0.05), where a greater decrease occurred at room temperature than the other temperatures
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Except MDA (P< 0.05), where a greater decrease occurred at room temperature than the other temperatures
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Except MDA (P< 0.05), where a greater decrease occurred at room temperature than the other temperatures
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Before you try and reject what I say another time, please read my posts. Man, you sound like a broken record. Which in turn, makes me sound like one because you aren't even reading my posts.
 
Over what timeline?
Whose gonna keep it sitting around long enough to let it degrade?
Fucking no one.
/Conversation.
 
I've had MDMA pills sit in my safe in my room during summer (which hits 40+ degrees Celsius) for years without degrading. I stocked up before the drought, and been using them over 2 years, and they are still as good as the day I got them.
 
kroniic said:
I've had MDMA pills sit in my safe in my room during summer (which hits 40+ degrees Celsius) for years without degrading. I stocked up before the drought, and been using them over 2 years, and they are still as good as the day I got them.
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It's all about how you store them. Stored in an airtight/watertight container in a freezer and they will last for decades. In something else they don't fare as well. MDxx compounds are stable, this is true, but they do degrade due to heat. idk why you guys are arguing so adamantly about something you have no facts or data about.

data talks. science talks. give me some proof or stop arguing. I swear this is like arguing with christians...
 
dont throw the caps out ! i would'nt fuss to much about a little dampness, sure be a little pissed but if it's water thats made them damp still drop them :)

few weeks ago my mate found a rolling paper full of lush little speckled mitzi's, not sure if there mdma.. but there some old ass pills from back in the day anyway!

they were epic
 
Hey guys, I bought some mdma powder about a month ago and tripped really good on 200mg of it with my gf. It was sitting in a airtight pill bottle for a few weeks and it got a few brown spots and overall it lost its crystal/white color and is now much more dull/off white. Did this happen because of moisture inside my pill bottle and is it still gonna be as effective as it was 3 weeks ago?
 
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