Injecting OxyContin, is it worth it?

[drug_mentor]

I really do appreciate the concern brother but at this point I do have my mind made up on this ROA. I dunno why, I mean it is partially economy but I have been curious for a long time and that might just be a convenient excuse, as my tolerance is as low as it has been in ages.

I may well find hitting veins too difficult or unpleasant, or find myself unable to prepare a solution I feel comfortable injecting. If this is the case I may well decide against injecting at this point in my life, but I have the tools and I have the drugs, if I can pull it off then I am going to be doing it.

Once again thanks for all the advice.

I know I am sounding like a broken record here but can anyone with experience shooting 40s in a 1mL syringe share with me how many units of water they use to prepare the pill for injection?

 

[Jabberwocky]

Edit: oh I'd personally say a 1ml insulin syringe would be fine but someone in that thread I mentioned suggested using more water?

i use 1mL per pill. usually using 3 or 5mL luer locks with 27g tips depending on dosages. unless you've got gorilla hands

as big as a needle fiend as i am i much prefer snorting oxy over IV, rarely IV it anymore. more to my preference is simple crushing and dumping.

i'd hate to see you go down to IV route, brother. i'd recommend plugging it instead as belarki said.

I mean it is partially economy

the iv route is the least economical route for oxy. sure it's about the rush but has no legs, talking 60-90mins then nearly back to base.

It seems most sites saying how to do a cotton filter use a needless syringe for that too, but is there any reason it should matter that mine have points?

simply take the points off with pliers or something of the kind.

 

[drug_mentor]

LOL The funny thing is you guys have *almost* talked me out of it now. I dunno though, if its a shit drug to IV it might be for the best if I use it instead of a better drug, could turn me off the idea of injecting all together you never know.

If I was to not IV this oxy I would be IV'ing morphine or hydromorphone on the next occassion access and affordability matched up. I find it hard to see the harm in giving what most people say is a fairly average drug to IV when I am inevitably going to shoot other shit anyway a go. If people with much more than one or two shots under their belt can go back to other ROA's and actually prefer them then what do I really have to lose by giving this a little crack? Aside from that, there does seem to be a group of people who really enjoy the experience, as one who has never shot anything before I can't help but feel I am a little more likely to fall into this category, atleast til I try something better.

I really do have shit veins according to every nurse who has ever took blood from me so there really is a distinct possibility this will end up a no go for me anyhow, but at this stage I feel I have taken too many steps in this direction to not give it a little go.

 

[Captain.Heroin]

It would be best to lift weights for a few days first, at the least so your veins are more accessible.

 

[Korn3x]

Annoyingly I seem to have lost the brochures I picked up on safe injecting procedure so I will have to have a serious browse online when I have some time to. Thanks a lot for the responses guy and sorry to ask a million questions, I just want to do this as right as possible with the equipment I have got.

i provided some links in my post

Ease of registering and pushing off is one of my main concerns in wanting to use as small a needle with minimal water possible, alongside leaving a smaller injection mark.

i recommend 31g, although some people have trouble with this small of a needle. i have had a few times where it was hard to register due to my blood being thick. make sure to stay plenty hydrated beforehand, and maybe even take an aspirin or advil to help thin your blood (Tylenol doesn't do much to thin it from my understanding). if you have access to different syringes though, 30g might be nice. the pharmacy i go to only has 31g so that's all i've ever known.

I really do appreciate the concern brother but at this point I do have my mind made up on this ROA. I dunno why, I mean it is partially economy but I have been curious for a long time and that might just be a convenient excuse, as my tolerance is as low as it has been in ages.

I may well find hitting veins too difficult or unpleasant, or find myself unable to prepare a solution I feel comfortable injecting. If this is the case I may well decide against injecting at this point in my life, but I have the tools and I have the drugs, if I can pull it off then I am going to be doing it.

Once again thanks for all the advice.

I know I am sounding like a broken record here but can anyone with experience shooting 40s in a 1mL syringe share with me how many units of water they use to prepare the pill for injection?

i used to use roxi's for injecting, and i was able to get 90mg in 1ml of water. i'd then do a second run through the cotton to make sure i got the most out of my pill (some people advise against this, but personally ive never had a problem as long as the cotton is ran thru right away and isn't left to sit).

the iv route is the least economical route for oxy. sure it's about the rush but has no legs, talking 60-90mins then nearly back to base.

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If I was to not IV this oxy I would be IV'ing morphine or hydromorphone on the next occassion access and affordability matched up. I find it hard to see the harm in giving what most people say is a fairly average drug to IV when I am inevitably going to shoot other shit anyway a go. If people with much more than one or two shots under their belt can go back to other ROA's and actually prefer them then what do I really have to lose by giving this a little crack? Aside from that, there does seem to be a group of people who really enjoy the experience, as one who has never shot anything before I can't help but feel I am a little more likely to fall into this category, atleast til I try something better.

I really do have shit veins according to every nurse who has ever took blood from me so there really is a distinct possibility this will end up a no go for me anyhow, but at this stage I feel I have taken too many steps in this direction to not give it a little go.

personally, ive never had a problem keeping needle usage down, but when you first start you can definitely see how people get needle fixation. if you have strong will power, then you should be fine. however, after IV HM, i don't think i'll ever go back to any other ROA, since IV HM is so effective compared to all other routes. with oxy tho, it's really not worth it as the length of the high is shortened to a large extent. enjoy the early nod though.

 

[Korn3x]

If you don't think it is so great I am not really sure why you would reccomend against it so strongly?

i'm not sure i understand this?

i don't think it is that great, so therefore i am recommending against it.

if you're referring to my post about me saying "it's worth it to try a few times", then what i meant was that it's worth it to try it out, if you've already had previous IV drug experience. that way you can chime in on threads where people talk about whether IV oxy produces a rush or not. that's pretty much the only reason i started IVing oxy, but after i got bored of the high not lasting, i returned back to plugging. plus it's much more discreet.

haven't used opiates for a year now, and needles in over a year, so im living proof it is possible to not let it overtake you, but trust me 99% of people don't come out like me.

 

[Jabberwocky]

if you've got shit veins then taking a hot shower before hand or doing a few days of weights should help out with finding them.

before you go injecting any drug into you i highly recommend using a saline solution so you're not unnecessarily giving yourself missed shots and the complications which arrive from them.

i'll jump on msn tomorrow if you want to have a talk, brother. i've a doctors appt at 12 to get stitches taken out and get refills so send me your moby through pm and i'll message you when i get online if you like.

 

[drug_mentor]

Hey Korn3x I did see those links and appreciate them, I just work on the computer and spend fair time on bluelight and would not of minded some off screen reading is all, so I am a bit bummed I lost the brochures.

I understand what you meant now, I guess I thought you were recommending against it out of cautioning me against IV use but that makes sense. I don't really give a shit if I never take a pharm opioid via a method other than a needle again as I don't really use them all that often even though I would consider opiates my DOC and have easy access to heroin.

I am pretty sure the smallest tips I can get are 29g and honestly from the practise poke I had I don't find them uncomfortable, although as I previously mentioned I did have a few drinks in me.

Lefty I would appreciate a chat wth you on msn if possible tommorrow, I have a mid afternoon appointment but as you know I am usually on msn for a few hours a day. I will hit you with that PM and hopefully chat with you tommorrow.

 

[Jabberwocky]

if you're getting sharps from a pharmacy the standard is usually 27g though if you ask for smaller guages some carry boxes of 100ct of 28, 29, 30 and 31g under the counter though of much lower quality to the terumo's which seem to be almost an australian standard in most pharmacies i've purchased them from. same goes for NSP's. terumo's are an IVer's best friend imo. only had 2 faulties out of the hundreds upon hundreds i've used.

just got your pm brother, will speak to you tomorrow

 

[drug_mentor]

^ Hmm, I wouldn't mind trying with a smaller size tip but if they aren't the same quality I mightent bother.

If a syringe doesn't work is it typical to notice this beforehand or does it generally result in a waste of drugs? I don't imagine this is going to be a concern for me but I am curious.

 

[belarki]

^ I'm guessing if the tip or barrel itself was faulty in some way you'd notice when prepping the shot. You can always empty it back out into a spoon (given it's still sterile and you haven't licked it or something) and use a fresh needle? In fact if you've had a few attempts at registering with no luck (say more than 3 or 4) I'd recommend using a fresh needle anyway. To see why check out these used needle pictures:

Poking around in your veins will also cause scar tissue to build up, which will restrict the blood flow and eventually collapse veins if you don't change the injection site regularly. Hence the recommendation for rotating sites. Even if you're doing practice shots try not to use the same spot over and over again.

 

[scottd420]

Personally man, I don't see oxycodone as a drug that is best fit for IV. The main reason a lot of people IV is to get the most BA out of their DOC. Say you are taking 120mg, well when you IV you will get 120mg of that (which will last only a short while, maybe an hour or two) while you could eat it and still get around 110mg absorbed (with a 4-6h duration). So in a way, you're throwing away more pain relief or high.
Also, I'm not trying to label anyone, but it seems that most users that claim to love IV oxy are usually the ones that have never experienced morphine or hydromorphone or the likes, so they've never experienced a true "rush". I'd compare it like IVing caffeine which would get you to the peak really fast but with no real rush, compared to cocaine which will bring you to the peak and crosses the BBB so fast it releases tons of dopamine instantly causing a massive rush felt all over the body, sort of like morphine and hydromorph/oxymorph. Sure you can feel yourself get high really quickly with a little floaty light headed feeling with oxycodone, but I'd hardly call that a rush.
Honestly bro, it's in your best interest to eat those--or even snort if you want a quick onset--to get the most bang for your buck. If you had oxymorphone, well that would be a different story. Good luck and hopefully you make the choice best suited to the conditions.
Chow for now!

 

[Propofol]

I ived two 80mgs and mom found me, she couldn't wake me up. I started with one 80mg but didn't really feal that much so i did another one. So did i overdose?
FYI i don't have much opiate tolerance.

 

[wishfulthinking]

not worth it, but iv never done it. IV is a bridge i have yet to cross. Just eat them and take some benedril.
you do know of such a thing as tolerance right? lol

 

[Korn3x]

^^
@propofol

no one can really tell you for sure. we try to stay away from questions like that since it's all speculation when it comes down to it. you probably did have an overdose tho, especially if you don't have much opiate tolerance and you did 160mg.

 

[Propofol]

^^
@propofol

no one can really tell you for sure. we try to stay away from questions like that since it's all speculation when it comes down to it. you probably did have an overdose tho, especially if you don't have much opiate tolerance and you did 160mg.

Yeah i guess, i feelt high way longer than usual, still feel real odd 15 hours later.

 

[OntarioGuy]

IV oxycodone is decent if you do enough.the thing is though,everybody who snorts oxy assumes they will need only 1/4 or 1/2 of their snorted dose...not true....you'll be able to handle your usual snorted dose of OC IV.... Morphine,hydromorphone,heroin and oxymorphone are different stories due to the large gap between IV and oral ba's.those are the drugs that require only 1/2 of ones snorted dose IV to produce the same effects.

Oxy doesn't really have a rush when compared to morphine and its derivatives,but it does feel good.very clean and energetic imo.not my cup of tea though,,I'd rather have a hard hitting morphone.

You said you live in Australia? I believe they give out micron filters and/or sterafilts at exchanges there.I suggest you get some before injecting oxycodone tablets.

 

[drug_mentor]

I am really only comfortable IV'ing 40-60mg as I feel with the 40mg tablets I have that is all I could realistically expect to get into an insulin fit. My tolerance is really double that and while I initially made the decision to give it a go for economy, I now have to sate my curiosity on the matter.

If I was to eat say 40mg and wait till it peaked before injecting 40-60mg surely this would be the best of both worlds?

 

[opi8]

I don't know about oxycodone as I haven't IV'd it, but with other opiates such as morphine and heroin, unless you're starting from baseline, the rush is greatly reduced when IV'ing. I'd probably IV first, then eat the rest to give the high some legs.

 

[drug_mentor]

I haven't had as much time to practise IV as I would of liked and its becoming unrealistic to expect I will be competent before temptation gets the better of me. I really wouldn't want to miss a non micron'd pill and with my shitty veins (according to every nurse who took blood) it is a strong possibility.

Despite the lack of a rush or big bioavailability difference I still plan to whack OC one day to find out for myself, however I have also kinda decided you only get one very first whack and it would probably be best used on a better substance.

In the mean time I will practise my technique and hope some morphine or dilaudid falls into my lap soon. Cheers for the responses guys!