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Synthetic Cannabinoids Thread

Kronic users warned to give it up

Police are warning residents still in possession of synthetic cannabinoids to dispose of them safely or hand them into police today.

From tomorrow, synthetic cannabis, including Kronic, will be classified as illegal in Western Australia.

Anyone caught with the drugs after then will face a fine of up to $100,000 and up to 25 years in jail.

Pilbara Acting Superintendent Peter Morrisey says people can hand them in to their local police station.

"That will be taken off them and seized and dealt with as we would deal with any other normal drug handed into the police station," he said.

"It would be destroyed appropriately, we would encourage people not just to throw stuff away where perhaps children or other people could get hold of it."

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[NZ] Kronic in the schoolyard, teens suspended

Three students have been caught with synthetic cannabis at an Auckland high school, and police say other schools have taken disciplinary action over the drugs.

The Herald understands three boys from Takapuna Grammar School have been suspended for smoking Kronic, a legal R18 synthetic cannabis product, on school grounds.

Kronic and similar products are laced with synthetic cannabinoid chemicals that produce effects similar to cannabis when smoked.

Asked about the disciplinary action, Takapuna Grammar principal Simon Lamb said he couldn't comment on individual students.

But he said the school had a clear stance on Kronic.

"With drugs and alcohol, the school's policy is very clear. Any product that alters students' behaviour, whether legal or illegal, is prohibited.

"My encouragement, as a parent and to parents of teenagers, is to be very aware of what Kronic is, its availability and the impact it has on those who use it."

Board of trustees member Bryan Connell said he knew of disciplinary action against the students but couldn't comment.


North Shore community policing manager Senior Sergeant Mark Fergus said many schools had taken action against Kronic users under their smoking and drugs policies.

Police had noted students at school under the influence of Kronic.

"We're seeing reports of students collapsing and vomiting."

Mr Fergus said he was working with schools on the Kronic issue.

"We're talking to them about the use of it and the effects. We've been monitoring it and helping schools formulate procedures."

Kronic has a strict R18 warning and, under the Smoke-Free Environments Act 1990, can't be sold to people under that age.

But police say many under-age users are buying it, and making the purchase can be "as easy as buying chewing gum".

When the Herald employed a 15-year-old actress to buy Kronic from a Newmarket dairy this month, she did so with ease.

Mr Fergus said some dairies selling Kronic had been hit by burglars.

Western Australia's Health Minister, Kim Hames, announced on Monday that the state Government would ban synthetic cannabinoids, including Kronic.

In New Zealand, a law change expected to come into effect next April will limit where the products can be sold and restrict how they can be advertised.

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So no one has any opinions on which are better for nausea and appetite?
Mods shouldn't have merged threads. I mean there is a new benzo thread every other day going over the same stuff that has been talked about for half a decade.
 
So no one has any opinions on which are better for nausea and appetite?
Mods shouldn't have merged threads. I mean there is a new benzo thread every other day going over the same stuff that has been talked about for half a decade.

Report the threads if you feel that they are in the wrong. Usually if it's a repetitive thread we will send it to the benzo mega thread or close it.

Anyway, at the time you made that post there were two threads directly about benzodiazepines on the front page, one of which I closed, and one that was also about them in a more general sense that was also closed.
 
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well one well known kronic website/supplier is officially going under now and has a fire sale. They acknowledge it is illegal in WA now and have atleast a month elsewhere they say.
 
and I find it dam annoying that it is illegal and we aren't told the fecking ingredient that is illegal, almost like Ecstacy is illegal guys (and nothing about mdma)

wonder if they did actually do a sweeping cannabinoid agonist law or a JWH anologue law,
because structures of cannabinoids I believe are more likely to be significantly structurally different than other classes: it may still be possible that some cannabinoid agonists are indeed still legal, though I have no idea which
 
^ Looking at JWH-018 and THC, the one does quite a lot like an analogue of the other. And again, under Australian law in most states and Federally, it does not matter too much about the chemical structure because if it gets you high and is intended to be similar to another drug, then it is an analogue.
 
I'm waiting for one state (or perhaps a territory) to hold out and not ban Kronic and allow local businesses to set up coffee shops. Imagine the boom in tourists to the Gold Coast if Qld decided the economy needed a boost.
 
OK... What is exactly banned? The product called "herbal incense" or a chemical compound in the crap?

Nothing is specific enough for me to understand what they have actually banned. I am assuming the chemical (JWH 018, 250, 210, 081) and the product marketing... Someone here should know.
 
I think imstead of just being under analogue laws which require a lab test to determine legal status (=$$$$$) thus a grey area cuz costs, so they are listing them specifically. Now they probs can get around it if they make a structualy similar but different n stay in grey area.
 
so the are scheduling the products themselves and not the chemical make up (of course the JWH family, but not other families). I am doing a report on this, and trying to find out some more info that the police in WA don't know.
 
Sites such as xxxxxx.co.nz, xxxxxxxx.com, xxxxxxxkxx.com and hundreds of others, import chemicals from China and spray their herbs with acetone to acheive the effect that you are seeking! Yuk! NOT ONLY does this make the product taste like rubbish, it is NOW ILLEGAL IN WESTERN AUSTRALIA!

Really? Acetone fumes get u high? *heads to bunnings*
 
seems like if it hits the media and is in a huge profit sector like mining it gets the ban stick. Imo it should have got the research stick and then an informed response stick :P

informed and drug reactions/media don't seem to go hand in hand
 
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