In that case i would be v careful - could be anything from rat poison to bleach and anything in between. As long as you know the right ratio of gear to citric (vit c is far far better btw) you shouldnt get citric burns. I Dont ever remember getting throbbing sensations except when forgeting to untie the tourny. As you are new to fixing be careful, esp now with so much shit still being sold.
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In that case i would be v careful - could be anything from rat poison to bleach and anything in between. As long as you know the right ratio of gear to citric (vit c is far far better btw) you shouldnt get citric burns. I Dont ever remember getting throbbing sensations except when forgeting to untie the tourny. As you are new to fixing be careful, esp now with so much shit still being sold.
brimz
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I fuked up
My top guy rang me n said yep , i said only got euro mate he sAID THAT works being the business man that he is.
I wasn't disapointed 'i'm typing with on e eye open after smokin a .3 its lush grey stuff.
I'm disapointed with myself i shoulda blanked the call cos i'd said 2 him don't ring till its the Grey stuff so i knew as soon as i picked up the phone.
N euro £ its all money n this guy don't use so thats all he wants.
I'ma save the rest 4 when i get back from Valencia.
My top guy rang me n said yep , i said only got euro mate he sAID THAT works being the business man that he is.
I wasn't disapointed 'i'm typing with on e eye open after smokin a .3 its lush grey stuff.
I'm disapointed with myself i shoulda blanked the call cos i'd said 2 him don't ring till its the Grey stuff so i knew as soon as i picked up the phone.
N euro £ its all money n this guy don't use so thats all he wants.
I'ma save the rest 4 when i get back from Valencia.
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brimz
Bluelighter
the msin dif is it actually says Methadone hydrochloride on the box now.
Seriously guys, anyone who I.V.'sreally should watch ALL this please..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IA6M8u0P-U0
It just goes to show scientifically for real that the more citric you put in, the more it kills off the gear, some people believe that if it dont desolve, you put more citric in, but thats bull, it kills off the H.. as proved above! If it aint desolving, it shouldn't be in your body!!
kkattastic
Bluelighter
I personally know of one user that lost an arm,one that lost a leg,and one that lost his life through injecting
I also suffered a severe infection and nearly lost my arm-had septicaemia for 2 weeks-hospitalised on iv antibiotics
I def agree that atm,with so much shit floating about,injecting may not be the brightest move
brimz
Bluelighter
You only need about 1/2 grains of BP citric 4 a.2 or half of one of those little sachets.#
Vit c is much better most folk use far 2 much.
The stuff h i got atm is the best doing the rounds as any1 thats had it , Blondin i no has
will tell ya it really is superior to anything else
n theirs some pretty good stuff if u nno the right peeps
Some others have had thi Grey stuff can't recall who but they also said its the best in the country .more or less i
obviously haven't had every H in the country
that would be a tad difficult
Vit c is much better most folk use far 2 much.
The stuff h i got atm is the best doing the rounds as any1 thats had it , Blondin i no has
will tell ya it really is superior to anything else
n theirs some pretty good stuff if u nno the right peeps
Some others have had thi Grey stuff can't recall who but they also said its the best in the country .more or less i
obviously haven't had every H in the country
that would be a tad difficult
kkattastic
Bluelighter
You only need about 1/2 grains of BP citric 4 a.2 or half of one of those little sachets.#
Vit c is much better most folk use far 2 much.
The stuff h i got atm is the best doing the rounds as any1 thats had it , Blondin i no has
will tell ya it really is superior to anything else
n theirs some pretty good stuff if u nno the right peeps
Some others have had thi Grey stuff can't recall who but they also said its the best in the country .more or less i
obviously haven't had every H in the country
the grey stuff that was promised to me never arose
i really want some of this shit too
UMmmm..... that grey stuff sounds real nice!!!
Although i'd be happy with any gear once it was proper gear! The stuff i got last week had got heroin in it, but it was such a low grade. It did hold me all the same coz i didn't need to take my methadone that day, but there was no buzz off it 
& i really wanna a buzz at this stage!!! There have been good reports in the UK for at least 6 weeks now, why hasn't it made it over here yet?
I'm due in the clinic tomorrow, i hope i'm not dirty! I got those 4 bags last Thursday after the clinic & i smoked the last bit on Friday after work at around 7pm, i hope i'm not dirty tomorrow, i don't wanna go back on daily's! I know that i should be clean coz (a) it was such a low grade of gear & (b) the test will be 5 & a half days after i had the smoke. BUT in the past gear has stayed in my system for well over a week, i had so many arguments with my Doctor at the start of the drought coz my tests were coming back dirty when i hadn't used gear in well over a week! I don't know how or why that was happening? but all i do know is that i don't wanna be dirty tomorrow! That crappy gear was not worth going back on daily's over!!!
I'm NOT gonna score after the clinic tomorrow, i don't trust anyone anymore! A good few mates are saying that they are getting amazing gear, but they have spent the last few weeks smoking the very same gear as i got last week, they even got it off the very same bloke & they thought that it was 'rocket fuel.'
How will things ever improve over here when you have muppets like that who don't know their arse from their elbow?! I don't trust any of them!!!
So i'm gonna go back to waiting to hear from that one girl who hasn't sold a thing through out the whole drought. I just hope that i get to keep my take-away!
If things don't improve soon my bf & i are gonna head over to England for a weekend, yous seem to be hogging all the good gear, ya lucky duckers!!!
louie the 16th
Bluelighter
Hi Brimz
do us a favour mate & let me know what Valencia is like , my bro has just flew out to Croatia for 3 months so gotta decide where to spend my hols !! Has anyone been to Croatia lately ? Any info appreciated , oh & Ructions let us know if your comin across the water
kkattastic
Bluelighter
UMmmm..... that grey stuff sounds real nice!!!
There have been good reports in the UK for at least 6 weeks now, why hasn't it made it over here yet?
I'm due in the clinic tomorrow, i hope i'm not dirty! I got those 4 bags last Thursday after the clinic & i smoked the last bit on Friday after work at around 7pm, i hope i'm not dirty tomorrow, i don't wanna go back on daily's! I know that i should be clean coz (a) it was such a low grade of gear & (b) the test will be 5 & a half days after i had the smoke. BUT in the past gear has stayed in my system for well over a week, i had so many arguments with my Doctor at the start of the drought coz my tests were coming back dirty when i hadn't used gear in well over a week! I don't know how or why that was happening? but all i do know is that i don't wanna be dirty tomorrow! That crappy gear was not worth going back on daily's over!!!
i can never seem to give clean tests either
even after not using for a week
it gets me down cos i feel like what is the point of trying when it's still in me after a week
and that explains why my rattle goes on for so long
my keyworker believes me as i have no reason to lie to her as i have always been honest(ish) about my use-i tell them when i used just not how much
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You will be clean i say 2day the reason you were dirty for over a week is because you were smoking every day for a good few day ina row when you do that it can take 10 day's to be clean but you have only smoked 2 bags in 2 days so i'd say you'll be cleanUMmmm..... that grey stuff sounds real nice!!!
There have been good reports in the UK for at least 6 weeks now, why hasn't it made it over here yet?
I'm due in the clinic tomorrow, i hope i'm not dirty! I got those 4 bags last Thursday after the clinic & i smoked the last bit on Friday after work at around 7pm, i hope i'm not dirty tomorrow, i don't wanna go back on daily's! I know that i should be clean coz (a) it was such a low grade of gear & (b) the test will be 5 & a half days after i had the smoke. BUT in the past gear has stayed in my system for well over a week, i had so many arguments with my Doctor at the start of the drought coz my tests were coming back dirty when i hadn't used gear in well over a week! I don't know how or why that was happening? but all i do know is that i don't wanna be dirty tomorrow! That crappy gear was not worth going back on daily's over!!!
I'm NOT gonna score after the clinic tomorrow, i don't trust anyone anymore! A good few mates are saying that they are getting amazing gear, but they have spent the last few weeks smoking the very same gear as i got last week, they even got it off the very same bloke & they thought that it was 'rocket fuel.'
How will things ever improve over here when you have muppets like that who don't know their arse from their elbow?! I don't trust any of them!!!
So i'm gonna go back to waiting to hear from that one girl who hasn't sold a thing through out the whole drought. I just hope that i get to keep my take-away!
If things don't improve soon my bf & i are gonna head over to England for a weekend, yous seem to be hogging all the good gear, ya lucky duckers!!!
basketcase
Bluelighter
@zara
hiya love, haven't spoke for ages!
sorry to hear you not been well, that's a real bummer, i've been sick wiv similar mesself, which is why i aint been on here n not much anywhere else in the last few months. I had a DVT last year and still suffering from the after effects even now, circulation is basically fucked causing lots of pain and comlications, can't even work. i wrote a long post a couple of pages back and explains stuff, reading it back it makes me sound like a right moany twat lol
that's a very fast getting a DVT in a couple of weeks, so maybe it isn't actually DVT? anyway, let us know how you get on, & be careful with any PE's (blood clot on yer lungs) like jspun says. i had a PE some yrs ago, nowt to do with IVing as i wasn't even IVing at all at the time, i was smoking it then. was in hospital for a while, on a heparin drip, then put onto warfarin tabs. they never did find out why i got it.
the gear round here isn't too bad, mediocre stuff really, so haven't really bothered. my man still keeps bringing testers round, one was pretty good (about strongest i've had since drought) but was £40 for 1/2 g, fkn ridiculous especially as it wqs nice but wasn't THAT good so if you want fair decent, you have to pay top price, for the mediocre it's normalish prices. (£20 for .5) man says he can get the grey stuff, but haven't seen any yet (what a surprise!)
if it wasn't for me being ill i'd be on subbies by now, but meths been put up to 55 from 35 cos of pain (could manage on 25 before). ah well i knew it'd be a long road to get there, bit longer than i'd planned tho!
anyhoo, glad to see yer back on here. my moods getting bit better so hope i'll stay round for a while cos it lifts me mood coming on here.
stay in touch love
hiya love, haven't spoke for ages!
sorry to hear you not been well, that's a real bummer, i've been sick wiv similar mesself, which is why i aint been on here n not much anywhere else in the last few months. I had a DVT last year and still suffering from the after effects even now, circulation is basically fucked causing lots of pain and comlications, can't even work. i wrote a long post a couple of pages back and explains stuff, reading it back it makes me sound like a right moany twat lol
that's a very fast getting a DVT in a couple of weeks, so maybe it isn't actually DVT? anyway, let us know how you get on, & be careful with any PE's (blood clot on yer lungs) like jspun says. i had a PE some yrs ago, nowt to do with IVing as i wasn't even IVing at all at the time, i was smoking it then. was in hospital for a while, on a heparin drip, then put onto warfarin tabs. they never did find out why i got it.
the gear round here isn't too bad, mediocre stuff really, so haven't really bothered. my man still keeps bringing testers round, one was pretty good (about strongest i've had since drought) but was £40 for 1/2 g, fkn ridiculous
especially as it wqs nice but wasn't THAT good so if you want fair decent, you have to pay top price, for the mediocre it's normalish prices. (£20 for .5) man says he can get the grey stuff, but haven't seen any yet (what a surprise!)if it wasn't for me being ill i'd be on subbies by now, but meths been put up to 55 from 35 cos of pain (could manage on 25 before). ah well i knew it'd be a long road to get there, bit longer than i'd planned tho!
anyhoo, glad to see yer back on here. my moods getting bit better so hope i'll stay round for a while cos it lifts me mood coming on here.
stay in touch love
basketcase
Bluelighter
i do wonder how accurate these tests are sometimes. the wee sample ones, at my clinic they can test those straight away and tell you there and then if you're clean or not. i had one done a few weeks back, for the sample one the keyworker said that it was pos for gear, even tho i hadn't had any for just over 7 days. then i had a mouth swab done at the same time, these they have to send off to a lab or somewhere, and that must've come back neg for gear as they had it on the computer as a clean! AFAIK the mouth swab ones seem to be more accurate. it was very disheartening to have urine sample done and told it's pos on gear, when looking forward to it being another clean. you do think why bother? but the mouth swab turned out to be neg on gear, very weird!
so i don't know, just makes me wonder how accurate some of the tests are, unless sometimes they don't do them properly.
there's supposed to be a line that comes up on the urine sample ones if it's pos (prolly a bit like pregnancy tests). on another test she showed it to me once saying its slightly pos as there was a very faint line, but i couldn't see any line at all. but seeing as it was very faint (according to her anyway) she recorded it as a clean sample. on that one i'd only had about 1/2 g of gear 6 days before. before that i'd been about a week clean so only had that .5 in 2 weeks. good job she recorded it clean or i'd have been really peed off.
other time i had a test done by the doc instead of my keyworker and it was neg for gear, and it'd only been bit over 4 days since i last had some gear so
another time it got recorded as dirty, and i'd had a bash tester a couple of days earlier. that was so fkn annoying, testing someones crappy bash, didn't get nothing of it at all of course, but just had the tidgiest bit of gear in it enough to make my sample dirty
so looks like it depends on the strength of the gear, how often you take it, your metabolism, and how often you drink liquids to flush out system, and in my experience who does the testing and which kind of test they use (samples or mouth swab) ...oh and obviously last time you had some gear!
@zara
hiya love, haven't spoke for ages!
sorry to hear you not been well, that's a real bummer, i've been sick wiv similar mesself, which is why i aint been on here n not much anywhere else in the last few months. I had a DVT last year and still suffering from the after effects even now, circulation is basically fucked causing lots of pain and comlications, can't even work. i wrote a long post a couple of pages back and explains stuff, reading it back it makes me sound like a right moany twat lol
that's a very fast getting a DVT in a couple of weeks, so maybe it isn't actually DVT? anyway, let us know how you get on, & be careful with any PE's (blood clot on yer lungs) like jspun says. i had a PE some yrs ago, nowt to do with IVing as i wasn't even IVing at all at the time, i was smoking it then. was in hospital for a while, on a heparin drip, then put onto warfarin tabs. they never did find out why i got it.
the gear round here isn't too bad, mediocre stuff really, so haven't really bothered. my man still keeps bringing testers round, one was pretty good (about strongest i've had since drought) but was £40 for 1/2 g, fkn ridiculous
if it wasn't for me being ill i'd be on subbies by now, but meths been put up to 55 from 35 cos of pain (could manage on 25 before). ah well i knew it'd be a long road to get there, bit longer than i'd planned tho!
anyhoo, glad to see yer back on here. my moods getting bit better so hope i'll stay round for a while cos it lifts me mood coming on here.
stay in touch love
Aw sweet, i did wonder if that what was wrong with your leg, wasn't sure though, but yeah, just in a few weeks eh.. luckily for me, its not as bad as they first thought, & have been taken offf the injections in my stomach, leg is swollen still, but missed my scan other day, so will find out when they re-scedule me..really happy to see you on here ok as well, dont want to loose touch with you, be good to keep in contact eh.. sorry to hear they had to put your meth up, what a bummer.. but sounds like you needed it, just take little steps & dont try to rush it, as i know you wanted to be off it by summer time..little steps though eh..also good to hear your mood is lifting, its pretty shitty being in a dark place, im still there, but slowly getting better, up & down though, as we said, a roller coaster ride aint it love..
South Coast is pretty much the same as all over the Uk, its ok one min, then low grade crap the next..its so inconsistent, all i want to do is be done with it all, really thinkin about goin on subs, as i cant do this, not knowing when n where my next bit of gear is comin from.. a visit to my doc is in order for me..
there is still no change in dublin. everyone is selling that shite that is as week as hell. its that long since i scored good brown that i cant rem whats its like, after using for more then half my life it now seems like a distant memory. will dublin ever get back to the way it was? when i see so many peeps happily throwing there cash at the dealers for the rubbish brown that there selling i wonder is this just the way it is now? is the brown we used to get befor the drought gone forever? why are people so happy to buy such shite? or is it just me? do i rem it to be better then it really was? it cant be that, you either get a buzz off the brown or you dont, + with the stuff that is around now you dont!!! end of story!!! how are things in england? i saw 1 or 2 posts saying that there is another drought comeing, is this true? if so i give up!
louie the 16th
Bluelighter
@ Gizmo,
It was me son who got told another D was on the way, then last night i met my man & as soon i stepped into his luxury vehicle he had a big fuckin grin on his face !
Your gonna like this 1 he said.
So i jumps in the back of the van on the short 9 mile journey home & by the time i reached my manor i was head in lap , tools on floor, & basically in a right state !!
I know this is no comfort to you mate but the D seem's a distant memory for myself & others over this side.
All the best Gizmo , Louiexv1
It was me son who got told another D was on the way, then last night i met my man & as soon i stepped into his luxury vehicle he had a big fuckin grin on his face !
Your gonna like this 1 he said.
So i jumps in the back of the van on the short 9 mile journey home & by the time i reached my manor i was head in lap , tools on floor, & basically in a right state !!
I know this is no comfort to you mate but the D seem's a distant memory for myself & others over this side.
All the best Gizmo , Louiexv1
charlie clean
Bluelighter
Re Basketcase and clinic drug tests.
Urine samples are notoriously unreliable and the more efficient swabs are prohibitively expensive. Laboratory employees are yet another group who make a good living at the addict teet. Your drug dependency supports thousands. Present Treatment policy serves to help all kinds. With the exception, of course, of the actual addicts.
Why test you at all? If I want to know what you take, I ask you. Aha, they say, but addicts lie. Why do they lie? To escape reduced scripts or greater supervision, to avoid their 'punishment' for not doing what they're told? Treatment becomes like the army, with users expected to obey orders. They lie to 'keys', keys lie to them and everyone grows more confused. Insanity.
There's one user 'crime', selling prescription drugs on the black market. This isn't too difficult to detect and correct. The rest - supplementing inadequate scripts with street gear, developing additional habits, infections, etc.- falls into the category of problem, with which Treatment is meant to help. Instead, it turns into a game of cops'n'robbers and it's easier to slip into your allocated role to escape retribution for which you shouldn't be liable in the first place
Somewhere along the line, Drug Treatment has lost its connection to reality. £400 million a year is spent in the UK alone. You could do an awful lot with such a sum, turn around many an addict life. Instead, it serves as employment agency to create jobs for otherwise unemployable middle-classes in booming, cosmetic 'help industries'. The black market provides the only 'help' most drug users see and addicts clog up hospitals, courts and prisons in consequence. User numbers have increased every single year since they removed diamorphine prescriptions, from 1,000 in 1970 to 3500,000 today, and still the band plays on. A slightly different arrangement of its tired old recovery song will provide the success that's eluded it these past 40 years. Insanity.
In practice, users serve to benefit drug workers, not the other way around. 'Clinics' or service providers live in a cosy bubble unilaterally divorced from the drug problem raging outside. Any change will come from the bottom up but users appear resigned to their place in the circus, It isn't easy but a simply 'why?' next time you're expected to collaborate in their nonsense might just make your 'keys' think. Do what you can. People are dying for want of a lousy script or proper support. Change is long overdue, needs to come soon.
Urine samples are notoriously unreliable and the more efficient swabs are prohibitively expensive. Laboratory employees are yet another group who make a good living at the addict teet. Your drug dependency supports thousands. Present Treatment policy serves to help all kinds. With the exception, of course, of the actual addicts.
Why test you at all? If I want to know what you take, I ask you. Aha, they say, but addicts lie. Why do they lie? To escape reduced scripts or greater supervision, to avoid their 'punishment' for not doing what they're told? Treatment becomes like the army, with users expected to obey orders. They lie to 'keys', keys lie to them and everyone grows more confused. Insanity.
There's one user 'crime', selling prescription drugs on the black market. This isn't too difficult to detect and correct. The rest - supplementing inadequate scripts with street gear, developing additional habits, infections, etc.- falls into the category of problem, with which Treatment is meant to help. Instead, it turns into a game of cops'n'robbers and it's easier to slip into your allocated role to escape retribution for which you shouldn't be liable in the first place
Somewhere along the line, Drug Treatment has lost its connection to reality. £400 million a year is spent in the UK alone. You could do an awful lot with such a sum, turn around many an addict life. Instead, it serves as employment agency to create jobs for otherwise unemployable middle-classes in booming, cosmetic 'help industries'. The black market provides the only 'help' most drug users see and addicts clog up hospitals, courts and prisons in consequence. User numbers have increased every single year since they removed diamorphine prescriptions, from 1,000 in 1970 to 3500,000 today, and still the band plays on. A slightly different arrangement of its tired old recovery song will provide the success that's eluded it these past 40 years. Insanity.
In practice, users serve to benefit drug workers, not the other way around. 'Clinics' or service providers live in a cosy bubble unilaterally divorced from the drug problem raging outside. Any change will come from the bottom up but users appear resigned to their place in the circus, It isn't easy but a simply 'why?' next time you're expected to collaborate in their nonsense might just make your 'keys' think. Do what you can. People are dying for want of a lousy script or proper support. Change is long overdue, needs to come soon.
kkattastic
Bluelighter
i do wonder how accurate these tests are sometimes. the wee sample ones, at my clinic they can test those straight away and tell you there and then if you're clean or not. i had one done a few weeks back, for the sample one the keyworker said that it was pos for gear, even tho i hadn't had any for just over 7 days. then i had a mouth swab done at the same time, these they have to send off to a lab or somewhere, and that must've come back neg for gear as they had it on the computer as a clean! AFAIK the mouth swab ones seem to be more accurate. it was very disheartening to have urine sample done and told it's pos on gear, when looking forward to it being another clean. you do think why bother? but the mouth swab turned out to be neg on gear, very weird!
so i don't know, just makes me wonder how accurate some of the tests are, unless sometimes they don't do them properly.
there's supposed to be a line that comes up on the urine sample ones if it's pos (prolly a bit like pregnancy tests). on another test she showed it to me once saying its slightly pos as there was a very faint line, but i couldn't see any line at all. but seeing as it was very faint (according to her anyway) she recorded it as a clean sample. on that one i'd only had about 1/2 g of gear 6 days before. before that i'd been about a week clean so only had that .5 in 2 weeks. good job she recorded it clean or i'd have been really peed off.
other time i had a test done by the doc instead of my keyworker and it was neg for gear, and it'd only been bit over 4 days since i last had some gear so
another time it got recorded as dirty, and i'd had a bash tester a couple of days earlier. that was so fkn annoying, testing someones crappy bash, didn't get nothing of it at all of course, but just had the tidgiest bit of gear in it enough to make my sample dirty
so looks like it depends on the strength of the gear, how often you take it, your metabolism, and how often you drink liquids to flush out system, and in my experience who does the testing and which kind of test they use (samples or mouth swab) ...oh and obviously last time you had some gear!
my keyworker nearly always gives me a mouth swab so it's not the dodgy urine tests;it's me!
although it is true that i probably don't drink as much as i should
Pay day treat
Well have just been out and scored and yet again the gear has changed. Anyone who has read my previous posts knows that my town has been very up and down quality wise lately but I can honestly say that this is the best I have had yet.
Its kind of sandy colour and pressed into a very hard rock. Last time I scored it was a very soft powder and not as good as this.
It runs into a nice brown beetle which leaves faint trails on the foil. Tastes lovely also, hope this batch is about for a few days at least.
Well have just been out and scored and yet again the gear has changed. Anyone who has read my previous posts knows that my town has been very up and down quality wise lately but I can honestly say that this is the best I have had yet.
Its kind of sandy colour and pressed into a very hard rock. Last time I scored it was a very soft powder and not as good as this.
It runs into a nice brown beetle which leaves faint trails on the foil. Tastes lovely also, hope this batch is about for a few days at least.
Am Impressed
This new gear is definetly the best I have had since last year. I have only smoked around a bags worth since scoring earlier and have got feeling of nausea,pinned eyes and feeling no pain.
What's the betting though that next time I go to score that all of this gear will have been sold out especially once word of its quality gets out.
I hope everyone manages to get themselves something nice for the weekend,whatever yr particular poison happens to be.
This new gear is definetly the best I have had since last year. I have only smoked around a bags worth since scoring earlier and have got feeling of nausea,pinned eyes and feeling no pain.
What's the betting though that next time I go to score that all of this gear will have been sold out especially once word of its quality gets out.
I hope everyone manages to get themselves something nice for the weekend,whatever yr particular poison happens to be.
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