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Opioids Friend of mine gets very sick after using opiates

velocity92c

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Let me clear some things up right off the bat. This isn't a SWIM post, I am actually talking about a friend of mine, who is female.

I'm also not talking about WD's. This girl has done opiates about 20 times total in her life, and a wide variety at that. She's also never done them without at least a 3 day break in between, and does small amounts.

Let me get to the real post now :


I'm curious as to what would cause her to get sick like this after doing opiates. It's not WHILE she's high, though she does throw up occasionally, which is normal as far as I know for an inexperienced opiate user, especially a female. I've never thrown up from opiates, even when I've nearly overdosed, but I've seen many newbie female opiate users throw up, even with the tiniest amounts.

No, she's sick about 8 to 24 hours after using opiates. There's no set time frame, but every single time she has used an opiate, regardless of what it was (heroin, opana, oxycodone [both roxy and contin] dilaudid, suboxone I think are all the ones she's tried) and regardless of the ROA (sublingual, IV, insufflated are the 3 methods she's tried), she always feels like complete shit anywhere from 8 to 24 hours later, and it usually lasts the rest of the day.

I'm an experienced opiate user, and I've never been around anyone that was like this. I've been around people that just couldn't handle them and threw up a lot, and felt sick while ON opiates. I've been around people that didn't feel much and just didn't like them (these kinds of people typically prefer uppers, from my experience). I've also been around people who enjoyed the high so much that when they came down they thought they were feeling bad when really they were feeling normal, this is not what she's doing. But I've never been around someone that felt miserable when they came down like she does. She loves being high, she feels great from it, and even when she throws up during, she always enjoys it, but she is so sick the next day she can't even go to work.

It's like she gets a cold mixed with a stomach virus and is absolutely miserable. When I first started using opiates (and I know this is true for many of the people I know as well), I would always feel great for hours and hours, and often even into the next day. When my buzz went away I don't ever remember feeling sick like this. I just remember it being gone, and going on with my life. Obviously once you become addicted it's a whole different beast, but that's not what she's going through. There's absolutely no way she's widtdrawaling already.

I'm kind of thinking that this is in her head because in all the years of opiate use and being around opiate users, I've never seen or heard of something like this, but I may be the weird one and this may be common. Any suggestions? Is this more common than I think it is?
 
I dunno maybe she's using to much or this just the way opiates effect her. Lucky her.
 
Maybe she has an allergy. If that's the case, I'd almost call her lucky, as it will probably ensure that she never becomes addicted to them.
 
has she tried kratom?


yea bad idea...kratom sometimes makes me feel sick ( never got sick though )

but oxy never did that

kratom is a beast that once tamed is mans best friend

but do a wrong amount and it can be your worst enemy
 
well i am the opposite. i have had terrible problems with getting sick after opiates culminating in a one week illness following a single dose of 15 mg hydrocodone. however kratom has never given me any problems, except once when i took it before breakfast but even that was NOTHING compared to what hydrocodone has done to me.
 
well i am the opposite. i have had terrible problems with getting sick after opiates culminating in a one week illness following a single dose of 15 mg hydrocodone. however kratom has never given me any problems, except once when i took it before breakfast but even that was NOTHING compared to what hydrocodone has done to me.



10 years ago I use to get sick off 5mg hydrocodone, nauseated & dizzy. Didnt start up on opiates again until 10 years after that incident. For some reason back then, opiates werent for me but now I can handle them.
 
I get nauseated like hell after taking H or Kratom or DXM. On the other hand, I'm amazed when some people tell me they feel like vomiting on coke or exstasy.

It takes all kinds to make a world.
 
I get nauseated like hell after taking H or Kratom or DXM. On the other hand, I'm amazed when some people tell me they feel like vomiting on coke or exstasy.

It takes all kinds to make a world.




I got nauseated on exstacy that supposedly had heroin in it. Loved sitting down in front of the xmas tree & looking at the lights for 2 hours. The reds were warm & the blue & greens were cold. What a trip after getting over the nauseation (if this is a word)
 
She's probably just a delicate little flower



My ex-gf that was 5ft 2 & 109 pounds was a delicate little flower but could snort old formulation oxys like there was no tomorrow. She could take a 40mg oxy & be chill while if I even tried to match her, I would be on the toilet vomiting. I was & still am a light weight compared to her. For some reason, she could handle any drug very easily. It seems her mind & body handled the drugs like shes been doing them for years.
 
Back when I first started taking large doses of oxycodone, if I ended up getting too high the night before, i would wake up with what I called an 'opiate hangover'. Nausea, splitting headache, stomach pain, etc. Felt like death. More opiates wouldn't help either. Definitely wasn't withdrawal.
 
I got nauseated on exstacy that supposedly had heroin in it. Loved sitting down in front of the xmas tree & looking at the lights for 2 hours. The reds were warm & the blue & greens were cold. What a trip after getting over the nauseation (if this is a word)

Are you serious? E with heroin in it? That is just an urban myth, bro... No E pills actually have heroin in them. The bioavailability of heroin taken orally is so low , and they can't fit very much at all in an E pill in the first place. It makes absolutely no sense..
 
10 years ago I use to get sick off 5mg hydrocodone, nauseated & dizzy. Didnt start up on opiates again until 10 years after that incident. For some reason back then, opiates werent for me but now I can handle them.

that's interesting. i am planning to give opiates another attempt soon, just to see whether its because my body chemistry has changed now and i can handle them or if its only kratom i can handle for some reason. it's also possible that my kratom use will make me better able to handle opiates because my body has adjusted to it a little bit. the first several times i took kratom i felt somewhat nauseous but now i don't really get nausea at all even taking 15+ grams.
 
I got nauseated on exstacy that supposedly had heroin in it. Loved sitting down in front of the xmas tree & looking at the lights for 2 hours. The reds were warm & the blue & greens were cold. What a trip after getting over the nauseation (if this is a word)




Sounds more like a psychedelic to me. I dunno bout you but when I'm doped up I couldn't give a fuck about lights. There are must greater things I don't give a fuck about when I'm high. And the colour-emotion association sounds way too psychologically frantic and astute for an opiate type state. S.

P.S - I've rolled before with gear that had similar characteristics. Just staring at the stage when everyone else's dancing. I find pills tend toward the red/orange/yellow/purpose 'warm' colours when they're packing psychedelics. I don't suppose there is some actual colour to the psychedelics, but things seem to work out this way.
 
I got nauseated on exstacy that supposedly had heroin in it. Loved sitting down in front of the xmas tree & looking at the lights for 2 hours. The reds were warm & the blue & greens were cold. What a trip after getting over the nauseation (if this is a word)

No dealer cuts ecstasy with heroin. No heroin has been found in ecstasy tablets. There is a reason why.
1. Drug dealers/Manufacturers cut their product to increase profit. Heroin is way to expensive to be packed into these little pills and sold for a normal price.

2. Oral bio of heroin isn't very good, making it a further waste to use in Ecstasy.

3. Heroin isn't a popular drug.

Those tabs are most likely to contain MDEA instead of Ecstasy or are cut with a cheap downer.
 
I don't eat a lot, and find that eating within 12 hrs of consuming oxycodone I get a really upset stomach, the next day because I usually do them at night.
Also, I went from percocets, developed a tolerance and hopped right to 40 mg oc and got nauseated too frequently for comfort for the first 6 or so times. Probably too much of the drug for her body to handle at the time, and being sick is the body's way of disgarding it?
I'm not sure because the same used to happen to me... but stopped after my tolerance went up.
 
Yeah, everyone's body chemistry is different, or, so they say.

I dated a girl who, for whatever reason, could not tolerate opiates. I mean, she would snort a small bump from an OC 20, maybe 5 mg or less, and a second later she would have her head in the toilet. It was absurd, but once she was done puking, she really liked being high. lol
 
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