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MDPV Megathread 5: Waiting for Jesus to show up

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I find the pissing effect is most prominent for the first few hours then disappears. To be fair that may just be down to plain ol' dehydration taking over though. It's somewhat annoying for a while but hardly a huge issue. All stims have a similar effect on me, to be honest. And GBL for that matter. And booze. Sometimes opiates too but that's more just an urge but lack of follow through which is even more annoying.

PS: Sit down stim wees ftw.
 
The pissing is normal to me. After a big hit, i usually have to poo as well

It smells like burnt popcorn and caramel in here
 
I remember always having to have a dump after just coming up from strong coke. That was a 'one shot' deal tho.

Realized I should perhaps have put my recent mdpv query here instead of in OD but here's the link anyhow. If anyone cares to answer please go ahead and do so in the linked OP.
 
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Harambulus said:
I've been looking through the mdpv threads on an off and not sure.

Feindishness aside, could I avoid the paro/anxiety and take a dose of mdpv enough to give me a nice 'cokeish' high for a couple of hours?

Most of the reports are from 'peev monsters' who are on several day+ binges, of which I'd imagine such side effects are inevitable, so it has been a bit hard to discern.

I've read a couple of reports saying they took low doses and didn't suffer from these effects but only like one or two.

Also does it have bad depression after hitting it- i.e at the doses I'd be suggesting. Again I've read mixed reports. Some say they've had the worse comedowns of their lives (though I wonder if these were the 'bingers' again) whereas others report NO comedown and how it is clean as a whistle.

I expect a lil bit of side effect from whatever I take but I wanna know if, at low doses which I'm suggesting, it would be something that would easily be offset by alcohol and weed. I.e. are these nasty side effects probably due to running your dopamine into the ground and still revving the engine when your supplies are out rather than taking a bit and stopping before you hit the red.

I certainly am not after a week long run of bleak amphetamineesque depression like I had from mpa.

I don't think feindishness would be too much of an issue for me. I'm going by past experience from other drugs I've had which others have found feindish. I never took more than 250mgs of mephedrone. I never redosed with speed once the party was over and coke I was a bit naughty but never more than one evening and the next morning.

The only reason I redosed alot with mpa when I tried it the once was cos it gave a shitty high and I was trying to get a decent buzz which was not there apparently.

Also there is alot of talk of the tan being the best and the white being crap. If I've never tried either, so long as I was confirmed to be getting pv in pure form, is it still decent (not comparing it to the mythical tan) to get whatever 'strain'?
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A low dose, and I mean low, would give you nice effects and few side effects. Just be sure not to redose over and over...

As for the comedown, I have never experienced it apart from when on day long benders, and even then it was mild if I didn't have to look after 3 screaming kids or something else that is not so friendly for strung out stimulant abusers.

As for the tan talk, you can't get the tan MDPV nowadays. Some online sellers sell it, but it is just coloured white.

The best thing you can do if you want to make your MDPV experience excellent is to take it with some Diazepam. I recently tried it without the diazepam and it was no way near as good. The Diaz will sort out the muscle tension, alot of the paranoia and edgyness.

have some GBL on hand to for when you try for an excellent trip :)
 
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The best thing you can do if you want to make your MDPV experience excellent is to take it with some Diazepam. I recently tried it without the diazepam and it was no way near as good. The Diaz will sort out the muscle tension, alot of the paranoia and edgyness.

have some GBL on hand to for when you try for an excellent trip :)
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I thought MDPV, GBL and Diazepam would be quite a dangerous combo would they not?
 
After my second smoked pv sesh I'm just about ready to admit defeat. The effects are spine-tinglingly awesome but the taste takes foul to a whole new level. I don't know how I managed to keep it going for 24 hours before giving up last time - this time even tiny 2mg hits had me gagging uncontrollably. It makes the dirty socks taste of jwh-073, the sickly-sweet rotten garbage taste of 5-meo-dmt and the sheer acridity of amt seem like ambrosia, champagne and caviar...a 30mg+ hit after tolerance build-up doesn't bear thinking about.

Is there anything I can do to mitigate this foulness or are fans of smoked pv just made of sterner stuff than me? It's probably wishful thinking to hope that I'm heating it too much which is causing nastier-tasting degradation products (I'm just chucking it in a crack pipe and heating from below with a torch lighter).

If it's a choice between the easiest substance I've ever put up my nose and the most difficult I've forced down my lungs, I know which way I'm going though. It's not like snorted PV is a pedestrian experience anyway.

Just out of morbid curiosity, has anyone smoked something they thought tasted worse than PV? I've heard bad things about ketamine and 2c-t-7...

And I feel silly for even asking this, but are there some freaks out there who actually like the way it tastes?
 
I sort of enjoy the taste. It's just associated with pleasure. Methiopropamine tastes worse but that's not too bad either.
 
If you are mixing GBL and Diaz while doing the PV keep the Diaz doses low, just enough to eliminate the muscle tension.

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Start low obviously
 
Hmm is muscle tension different than other stimulants?

I hate diaz; half life too long for my tastes. I still have some zopliclone left for emergencies for sleep.

I intend to mix with weed and alcohol. Only weed for the paro at the end if required, I read it works well for some. What do other's think?

I love alcohol with stims (whereas I usually hate it on its own) so hoping that will mix well.

Yea I enjoyed vaping mpa and found the taste just fine. Mr. Shambles told me that pv is much more euphoric than mpa which is good to know cos I found mpa ALMOST scratched the itch. The main reason I kept hitting it was not due to feindishness but rather cos I wasn't getting a nice high from it in the 1st place. I did eventually get something ok after like 20+ consecutive hits as I recall but then I had a weeklong comedown as my reward for that. :!

I'm not looking for anything wild on the euphoria front just something to give that nice deep sense of contentment that dopamine drugs bring. So, rather than euphoria, dopamine induced wellbeing.

Also this:

I have the opportunity to go for either.

I have been reading through the mdpv threads and most people say that mdppp is like mdpv but less potent but also without the psychotic/anxiety producing sides of pv.

Any other differences?

This would sound more up my st. however I wouldn't want to scrimp on euphoria if it is considerably less.

What is thoughts from ppl who have tried mdppp or both?

Also at lowest recreational doses is mdpv paranoia easy to handle/put at bay albeit with aids such as weed and alcohol? I have no interest in binging I want a nice dopamine buzz which will last a couple hours to nicely pep up weed and alcohol similar to how one would take cocaine of an evening. This or would mdppp be more suitable?
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Harambulus said:
I intend to mix with weed and alcohol. Only weed for the paro at the end if required, I read it works well for some. What do other's think?

I love alcohol with stims (whereas I usually hate it on its own) so hoping that will mix well.
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I love smoking weed while on MDPV and don't bother with alcohol till the comedown when it is a godsend but that's just me. Smoking weed without booze or benzos on a comedown once after ~18 hours redosing left me in a bad way once so I'd advise caution there though, definitely has anxiety-inducing potential. If you're not redosing for too long it probably won't pose much problem though. Once I'm boozed or benzo'd up I can toke away to my heart's content though :D
 
Yup I'd imagine so. If I wanna take it in the morning and be asleep the same night (around 2am) when would you suggest I stop redosing? Would I even require redoses for a couple hour trip? shambles said 4 hours before bed and he always gets to sleep thereafter.

Also what dose is pushing it into anxiety/panic attack territory? I'm presuming the psychosis only comes after some sleepless nights/really high doses.

also how much more feindish is it than drone/coke? I never redosed with drone the 5-10 times I did it except maybe once and even then it was just an extra dab as I peaked :). I would just take 250mg oral and feel toxic once the high wore off so didn't wanna do any more.

I'll prob start with 5mg oral and go from there if I do give it a whirl.
 
Harambulus said:
Yup I'd imagine so. If I wanna take it in the morning and be asleep the same night (around 2am) when would you suggest I stop redosing? Would I even require redoses for a couple hour trip? shambles said 4 hours before bed and he always gets to sleep thereafter.

Also what dose is pushing it into anxiety/panic attack territory? I'm presuming the psychosis only comes after some sleepless nights/really high doses.

also how much more feindish is it than drone/coke? I never redosed with drone the 5-10 times I did it except maybe once and even then it was just an extra dab as I peaked :). I would just take 250mg oral and feel toxic once the high wore off so didn't wanna do any more.

I'll prob start with 5mg oral and go from there if I do give it a whirl.
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I used to use it frequently and space my doses at around 4 hours per bumb (5-15mg)

last dose used to be at around 7PM to sleep for midnite.

I never done stupid amounts but frequency made me go nuts. i think. lol.

each to there own. I compulsively take loads of chems tho so. yknow.
 
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