I think that most of the Tan being sold is actually just coloured that way. I know of 2 vendors that previously only sold MDPV, but now suddently stock 'tan mdpv', and I don't think that the sudden intrest on this site is a coincidence
Can we get a few pics of it? Can you also describe the texture? does it disolve in water? What happens when left out in the air? does it change at all?
sorry for the milion questions but we are curious lol
and a cathinone lab in cali, wtf?
it would be strange, to say the least.
id bet they are a 'research lab supplier' (or some shit) that repackages and redistributes from california. can't see any good reason to put a full on production lab in the U.S.
Do you get any vision blurriness when you are on it? That is my biggest pet PEEV about the PEEV. I jut get a blurrier vision, longer time spent reading or making stuff out. Is there a way to sort that out or not? Otherwise its all good, been an interesting 4 months with this stuff. For me its soo easy to put down and then not redose. I dose only when I need alot done and I go in long spurts. Only been 1 allnighter from it and that was even hard to do.
I think many people react very badly to it but for those who don't, its just right.
I would just love to be able to combat the eye problems it gives me. I have 20-20 vision but not with this, I think its more a mental side effect but I would still love to be able to get rid of it.
Is there any regimen to combat general stimulant side-effects such as the increased metabolism, dehydration, and jaw issues? I would love to be able to slow those too, or tone them down a bit.
My vision gets so blurred it's just plain silly. Have to turn the zoom right up to even read BL for the first day or so of a session. Seems to go away after the second day though. Dehydration is a bitch cos I find it really hard to force liquids down... but can usually eat fine. Funny that.
Can we get a few pics of it? Can you also describe the texture? does it disolve in water? What happens when left out in the air? does it change at all?
sorry for the milion questions but we are curious lol
I took pics on my phone but my contract has ended (phone service is off atm), so idk how to upload them without emailing them from my phone. any ideas?
I wouldn't say it looks particularly special. It looks identical to the light tan one someone posted on here a while back (sorry too peeved to hunt for it atm)
It dissolves instantly in water. It isn't at all practical to handle as it's very soft and clumpy - the slightest pressure will smear it, etc.. These clumps are nice to snort tho. Vaped, it's extremely potent.. If i had to describe the smell when smoking, it's similar to crack.. kind of sickeningly sweet but not overtly pungent
My vision is definitely altered/enhanced and libido is always there. Smoking is more of a mindfuck tho, which easily turns into delusional and paranoid thinking. Sound is altered quite significantly, with higher doses increasing this effect.. For example, atm i'm hearing helicopters and faint sirens in my head but i know it's just my dryer or something else.. Very similar to the effect LSD has on me
I really really really dislike this substance. Really. Let me just direct the MDPV stimulation towards typing how bad it made me feel. I should warn you: it's not an impressive, psychotic MDPV story. I'm sure it's pretty boring, but I just feel this strong urge to ramble about it so i'll do you guys a favor: a long PVdriven spoilered one and a short version at the bottom.
Long MDPV-stimulation induced ranting mode version: spoilered
NSFW:
I had a small sample I got for free from a vendor and since I was out of Ritalin and I hadn't been able to study for shit the past 2 days, (yay ADD) I thought it wouldn't be a big deal to try just a small about of MDPV as a replacement .. I mean, it's pharmacologically very similar (NDRI right?) to methylphenidate, but the duration is longer, so it might even be more efficient right? right ..? Ofcourse not but yeah, how would I know that? I never tried it so I had never had this chem fuck my brain yet.
But c'mon, it's just a really low dose dose the comedown and the fiending can't be THAT bad, I can take MPH crashes & cravings so I can control this too right? Fuck, I wish I couldn't turn the clock back half a day and slap some caution into my "it can't be the bad" self
Anyway I dose very low and wait: nothing. I just keep redosing tiny amounts till I'm at some recognisable stimulation that reminds me of an ideal ritalin studydose. Then I remember a post fromF&B in some old thread: "redose before the comedown and you'll be awake for aLONG time" .. Thats when I started to realise it wasn't gonna be a mild day.
So about 5 hours in I crash. Very mild actually: mentally tired and a little down, but physically still very much active. The most bothersome part is the feeling of a very pressing urge to pee, which doesn't go away. If I watched TV I wouldn't probably even notice it. But I'm not done studying so I guess I'll redose .. and fuck now it starts to go shitty, the infamous MDPV redosing has set in.
Now I start to constantly redose in very small (and I mean small, like 1mg or so. Far from enough to get near any high sort of high or anything) amounts, because every 30-60 minutes i feel like i'm crashing again: mental haze, physical energy starts to get alot more noticable, mood goes down etc, .. so I redose very small all the time to keep to mental crash away. It's either redosing and studying or crashing and lying on the couch because I don't think I can do anything else besides lying down with mental tiredness and but too much physical energy if I crash. And even tho it's shit compared to ritalin for studying, I'm actually making progress now so I don't wanna stop yet .. But godfuckingdamnit do I feel like shiiiiiit now and I know that every redose makes it worse =/
During this entire redosing time, I'm not feeling depressed or anything but there's definitely no moodlift either let alone a hint of euphoria at all. That feeling that I really need to pee has stayed with me from the first crash (tho it does disappear very shortly every now and then) untill even now (which is about 6 hours later). I'm still so very stimulated physically but I'm not high at ALL, which I didn't want to be either, because I just wanted some concentrationaid, but i purposly underdoses to avoid any euphoria and figured that thesideeffects would be minimal then .. (I should have read more Trip Reports, but I'm a stupid dumbass)
But every halfhour-hour my body is so damn energized while at the same time my mind is just kinda hazy, which makes me either redose (which I cant help but keep doing over and over because I feel I need to wait till it's an acceptable time to go to bed) or sleep (which I cant do because my body feels like it's hooked up to a power circuit or something and I don't want to because it's too early).
SO yeah, now I'm coming down and thank god I have some benzos here because I'm afraid I'd be awake all night .. and day .. and another night maybe, I just feel so tired yet so energetic .. Want sleep so bad..
Coincidentally, between reading basic boring pharmacology shit for my exam, typing this blathering and redosing again and again I find my baggy with the MDPV sample is almost empty now. There's maybe 10mg or so left and I feel really fucking relieved, because I just threw those lost bumps away. God, I imagine this is what getting out of prison feels like. FREEDOM! Gonna read some more untill I ride out the main part of the remainder of the PV stimulation, take my benzos and hope they're stronger than the PV so I can sleep.
God I've crashed so hard from ritalin sometimes if I took more than I normaly take to give me an extra boost for studying. That gave me some bad mental and physical feelings on the comedown that felt much much worse than what i've felt on this PV, but it was just a comedown like any other. But with MDPV, I've never felt shitty so from any drug, not just because of the bad mental and physical sensations, but purely because of all the bad things associated with it. I've also never felt so 'imprisoned' by a drug: the fiending is so bad because you're dreading the comedown so much. Mephs fiendish was alot worse/more intense but that was because it felt so euphoric, you WANTED to keep taking more and more: positive reinforcement... this is just trying to keep your head above the waterline, negative reinforcement ..
Argh goddamn, I hate MDPV, I'm never gonna buy any of this, ever. I'll only do this again if: a) I have no responsibilities in the immediate future. b) Lots and lots of free time, at least a full week. c) Not alot of PV at my disposal. d) Other stims to mask PV's gruesome fiending and e) loads of benzos to put me to sleep on time.
Short version:
1) I don't know how much I had, the amount wasn't on the label. (Iasked the supplier but no response yet) but I think it was either ~100mg because that was the vendors first offer. It could, more likely (andhopefully), also be ~50mg because I asked for a sample between 20-50mg. I purposly asked a very small amountbecause I was afraid a large stash would send me into crackheadmode .. Thank god I asked for such a small sample and didn't just buy half a gram at once, because I really
2) really, REALLY underestimated the fiendishness of this stuff. I almost had nothing left at the end. And when I decided it was time to stop there was 10mg or so left. SO I went through 50mg in about 12 hours, with about 80% of that during the last 6 hours. I took many small redoses to try and keep the shitty feelings away without being too stimulated.
3) I think my aquired, from daily functional use, ritalin tolerance caused some crosstolerance with the PV which made me go through that amount this fast .. And I'm happy for it because it's all gone now. Never so glad to have a tolerance
4) I felt ok and almost sober untill I started redosing, which made me feel real shitty, fiendish and like I was going in and out of a crash. The longer lasting physical stimulation (compared to the mental stimulation) made the crashes/comedowns really fiendish because even tho they don't feel THAT horrible, for some reason you feel like you MUST avoid them.
5) I'm goddamn happy I have a few benzos because the physical stimulation would make sleep fucking impossible and it's the only thing I wanted when on PV .. Only thing I felt like was either sleeping or redosing
6) Didn't notice any increased horniness at all.
7) It's not even good for studying (tho still better than sober) even tho it really does increase your concentration/focus. But where ritalin allows me to focus where I choose to, MDPV allows me to focus on studying to, but it seems to want to direct my attention to blathering and writing long-ass complaining posts on drugmessageboards
8) After the first crash I never lost the unignorable urge to pee, no amount of redosing stopped it for more then a few minutes. Thankfully it's now slowly dissipating. This really REALLY added to the feeling of shittyness imo. Because I was trying to sit still to study I kept involuntarily squirming in my chair to lessen the urgency of this feeling, which didn't really help, but probably added to the 'agitatedness/nervousness' as well.
So yeah, I'm gonna wait a little more untill the most intense part of the stimulation is over (shouldn't be too long anymore, I can feel the MDPV wearing off more and more thankfully), take benzos and hope for a quick transition to sleep.
And yes, I do know that I'm real fucking retarded. It's been on my mind for about 6 hours now.
Edit: With all this negativity (thankfully slowly starting to dissipate now) I kinda forgot something: the effects from the first dose (before the first redose) were actually not that unpleasant. I had no euphoria or anything, except maybe a little moodboost due to the energized feeling and abilitity to actually study, instead of feeling like (wel, also actually being tbh)the lazy unfocused, easily agitated, contstantly eating, and unmotivated ADHD-mess I was the previous two days. And since I couldn't fall asleep untill late at night, I couldn't get up in the morning/noon without alot of effort which made me even lazier and more tired and unmotivated during the day. But the PV made me energized and awake, able to focus (but still not as good as MPH for me. Quite often, still alot less than when sober, my mind seemed to wander to other things which I would then start focusing on intensely. Still, I could actually study which was awesome) , it was pretty clearheaded (more clearheaded than ritalin, because I felt stimulated, but sober. While ritalin, also pretty clearheaded, gives me sort of emotional 'damping' and stops my thoughts from going to more fun/interesting topics if I don't want them to and it doesn't feel as 'sober' and feels more 'closed of from the world into myself' as PV makes me feel ) and didn't feel any craving/urge to redose at all really.
I just should've dosed more careful so the PV would wear of a little before I planned to sleep to avoid having to redose to keep the crash away. The first redose was like opening floodgates or a similar metaphor. I don't know if I would've resisted the redosing urge from one dose if I crashed about an hour before I wanted to sleep, but when I think about how I felt during that first crash I can't imagine the craving being as bad compared to the crash after dosing more than once, so I'm pretty sure I'd be able to resist and just go to bed. There's the physical stimulation that would interfere, but again, don't think it would be too intense/longlasting from only one dose to make you take more PV when you don't plan on taking more.
So yeah, MDPV, it's not horrible but if you redose when you crash, it all goes to hell. I gonna stick to Ritalin for studying in the future .. PV isn't good for me. And I apologize for the inconsistency, errors and general bad writing but the physical stimulation drives me to keep typing, adding and editing while the mental stimulation is long gone, so I'm not fresh enough to keep my mind on my writing.
But I'm gonna stop rambling and leave now, because I'm starting to feel sleep coming over me so I'm gonna go to sleep now. Feels so welcoming because the last couple of hours made mefeel like I've been awake for days so the thought of ging to sleep makes me feel pretty relaxed and relived right now.
Final edit: not sleepy enough yet to doze off but almost there, so gonna make a final edit: A part of why I felt so bad was I think due to having feelings of guilt towards my girlfriend. She's not a very drugminded person, but we had a (fair) deal I could take drugs, but I had to tell her beforehand when and what I was going to do. The first 5 hours I didn't have that guilt because I wasn't abusing the MDPV, just took a small dose as a ritalinreplacent to help me study so to me i wasn't abusing/using a drug, it felt the same as taking my ritalin. But during the second part of the experience tho, I felt that guilt creeping up everytime I started feeling bad when I crashed. And it just became worse everytime I redosed because this wasn't just a tiny studydose anymore. Even tho I wasnt trying to get high, I was using alot and frequently so fiending pretty bad. Maybe that negatively influenced my experience more than just the unwanted/unpleasent effects from just the MDPV itself.
I would probably have dosed alot higher and thus avoided this 'level' where I felt shitty if I wasn't trying to avoid having 'fun' with this (didn't want to have any feelsgoodman, not just because it would impair studying, but also because if I was already breaking promises, I convicedmyself it wouldn't be as bad if I stayed under a certain 'feelsgoodman-level'. Because now when I redosed I wasn't taking enough to feel good but just enough to not feel really badfor a moment. So the redosing and fiending woudn't perhaps not bother me so much if I wasn't 'held back' or anything.
So yeah, the accumulating guilt of being dishonest and the thought of having to choose between either lying to or disappoint (and breaking her trust, which is only partially justified imo, since I doubt this woulda happened with something less fiendish and MDPV) my girlfriend, probably played a significant role in the negative experience too. I'm not looking forward to telling her and confessing this tomorrow when I wake up. Probably gonna be as shitty as this MDPV binge itself, but know I need to take responsibility.
That being said, even without all that, I still wouldn't go near MDPV anymore. I think it's got potential, but its not functional enough for me to use a studyaid when ritalin works so much better. It also doesn't seem recreational enough to deliver that 'satisfaction' you look for in a stim so the urge for redosing makes it way too easy to go on uncontrollable binges that can end in fucked up situations .. If I wasn't held back like I was today, I'd probably dose alot more irresponsible and couldve done something else that might've had alot worse reprecussions than this. (And I think I need to really go away now, because it seems to benzos are really starting to work since they're really starting to impair my inhibitions to talk about personal stuff now so Im gonna go to bed again. Hopefully for at least 9 hours this time, after which I might delete some paragraphs here that i wouldn't might not have written here when sober hehe)
large amounts smoked mdpv and gbl give me a really wierd addiction. can't stop using despite increasing health problems. (skin, heart and blood etc.) i smoke it from a foil with baking soda and water. maybe 10-20mg. cant say how much daily. going to see a doctor soon anyhow.
(a few gram last year. then a long break and the last 2 months 5 grams so far.. not that much i guess)
I don't claim to be a fan of PeeVee. Not many enjoyible effects of it for me personally. Yet it's strange that it always seems to be closely availible since the first time I had it.
A fan wouldn't flush a pile of it just because it sung beautiful music to them... Right?
I was rather interested in it until I read the thread on it and found pretty uniform reports of the pissing phenomena. I am already an olympic pisser (once every half hour average) when not on drugs so when drugs do this it is pretty unbearable (can be up to a 'load' every couple of minutes).
This effect is the fucking worst from past experience when you are DYING for sleep and yet you have to get up every fucking minute to let another niagara falls out which is even a struggle when you get there due to hideously shriveled dick. I have toyed with the idea in the past of constructing a makeshift catheter or having a milk bottle by the bed though my drug use never got to the point where I implemented these designs. Perhaps writing it up I can 'pass on the torch' to those it may of be more use :D.
Any other stims that don't do this/it is minimized? I think nearly all do on the comedown as the substance clears through the kidneys or whathaveyou.
