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Effects list of K2 Summit

Here is the way I'm looking at I have smoked weed and sometimes I felt anxious or relaxed, but I would always go to bed and wake up the next day feeling great. I took one hit from this substance and it shut my body for about an hour. Weed never did anything like that to only this crap.
 
nopipesdfw said:
I could die tomorrow. I have a fairly broad understanding of chemistry, neurology, and physiology too. I suspect that JWH-018 is in fact carcinogenic (I smoke JWHxxx's instead of marijuana or cigarettes, obviously nothing is better for my body but hey tradeoffs) whilst some others may be more physically benign or maybe even have other unknown negative effects. I know that the effects of the JWH-xxx series are unusually mentally manifesting for a cannabinoid mimetic, that is what I mostly seek out of the concept of being high.

Most of the people in here don't fit the contour of the long term risks I suspect (who knows??) that some indole based mimetics might bring with physical evidence here in reality eventually. I might be the future poster child myself, you guys are talking about medicating yourselves by all sorts of known addictive and deadly drugs with overdose ranges marked and addiction potential (Like me!) in the name of "curing" yourself from a material object that was in you quite a long time ago with no imprint that any real doctors can find.

I smoke ~200mg of JWH-250 a day currently, I will report on the side of something physically going wrong if it ever did arise. I just don't eat hype and find most people to have serious attribution problems that stick out sometimes.



ALL HEIL JWH-018
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well I wish you the best. I was smoking a gram a week of 018 and didn't notice any of these side effects until I discontinued it. I probabily should have weaned off I felt felt that it was literally making me retarded (like seriously) so I wanted to be done with it. i literally could not focus on my schoolwork at all and I was doing crappy on tests that I would normally just breeze through.
 
IMO I think all of these JWH compounds need to be researched more before they are used recreationally. And a warning to anyone with a low seizure threshold/or seizure disorder: DONT USE JWH COMPOUNDS!!! I have a lowered seizure threshold and after one bowl of "the sting" I dropped on my friends floor and seized for several minutes. Correct me if im wrong, but dont the GABA receptors play a role in seizure disorders?
 
forums1969 said:
Here is the way I'm looking at I have smoked weed and sometimes I felt anxious or relaxed, but I would always go to bed and wake up the next day feeling great. I took one hit from this substance and it shut my body for about an hour. Weed never did anything like that to only this crap.
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ya this stuff is much worse than pot. I dont even think pot is bad if not abused. I personally am over drugs all together now though. the reason I went with this stuff is because

1. its like pennies on the dollar compared to weed

2. No smell

3. stronger and better (more narcotic-like) high imo
 
I think it might be an issue with a chemical imbalance in the brain whether that is GABA or sothming else I don't know. If it was an unbalance I would think that the brain would be able to heal itself over time months maybe years.
 
Yeah this guy I knew who smoked weed ALOT started on K2 cause the green supply had dried up in his area. He then got aaallllll of his friends smoking K2. Naturally when he offered me some I was like "I have REAL quality green in my pocket,I'm not smoking colored pencil shavings." Needless to say,hes pretty messed up now. Headaches and the like. Don't know what hes done about it. But definitely stop smoking K2,or anything for awhile honestly. Try dieting and exercise to see if you can flush your system is the best I can think of. Good luck!
 
Fuck JWH. I had a friend who didnt smoke for four months but smoked some k2 several times a week; since the JWH compounds have 10x the affinity for CB1 receptors, this dude didnt get high when he started smoking again. This tolerance lasted a good month. And we smoked him up on blue dream hash his first time. He got high, but not glory days high like he should have from a 4-month break. Fuck JWH. Fuck K2. Fuck Spice. Naloxone is to heroin/oxy/etc. as JWH is to weed. Fuck that. Weed might make you THINK you have to go to the hospital, but k2/spice will actually PUT you in the hospital.
 
forums1969 said:
@ Mrhack I added you to yahoo messenger. As for me I don't get the headaches that much anymore, but my vision messed up. Sometimes I feel like I can't take in all the imagery around me and I get dizzy. It's worse with my contacts, but my glasses don't normally cause it. I am thinking that maybe my prescribtions has changed.
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I get the same feeling about not being able to take anything in, but no lie the better I get and the more I read about it helps. I've been taking Fish Oil 1200MG to help with my heart and I take a little phenibut whenever I start to panic a little. Reading more has helped me to. Just do things to pass the time and not think about it. Cut down on any kind of drugs (legal or not) for a while and just chill. I still drink and get wasted and I'ved smoked very little amounts to get back into it. I think this stuff can go either way. I think it really could permanently affect you but it also does cause bad paranoia. Once you get to the point where you don't think about it and it will go away. Try not to think and look around and everything. Talk to someone and just keep your mind busy and your mind will forget. The human body really is an amazing thing. Thats the best thing about this kind of stuff. Your body knows and it will fix it, just don't let your mind tell you otherwise. Best advice i can give. =]
 
jamesmartin said:
Man I hate this jwh thing .

It's soo gay .
Like there's weed guys !!
You don't have to smoke a synthetic version of it !

Ok yes . There are people who get good effects from it but alot don't .

Why don't people just stick to weed !?!?

- it's safer
- more reliable nicer high .


*Also if your doing jwh because you have a drug test coming up or something I guess using jwh is cool . But are you really that addicted that you cannot stop smoking it so you have to resort to jwh ?

That's just my view .



But to OP , I guess you could try using LSD or shrooms , like others said. It may help
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First of all, it isn't healthy to be doing research chemicals every single day.
You cant treat JWH like cannabis, but people are moronic and do it anyways. Furthermore one thing that doesn't partake to you shouldn't be considered "gay". And to the OP, try a couple doses, or even some mushies. What do you have to lose?
 
I order pure JWH-250 to my P.O. box not because I am getting tested for anything, but most certainly because I think it makes me look cool.
 
So, I'm pretty drunk right now. Anyhow, I've posted before about my problems with JWH, and I'll agree with Morrow here, alcohol pretty much eliminates any headache from JWH use, furthering our theory about gaba and/or dopamine being fucked up. Also, nopipesdfw, I really hope you are being sarcastic about your jwh usage. . . .haha. Once again, good luck to all the others out there dealing with jwh related health issues.
 
So an update I have been feeling almost back to normal which is a nice feeling to have after 4 months of slowing getting better. I now know that it is anxiety that is causing all the symptoms that I have. I went from being in a comfortable environment feeling fine e.g. no eye floaters, headaches, pressure in head and pain in jaw to an uncomfortable environment and all my symptoms came back. Now I just need to find ways to help with the anxiety and see if there is any supplements that might help boost it.
 
The decision is up to you, but based on my experience over the last 45 years, I would recommend not using any illicit drugs to address your problem. Instead, I would find a doc who is board-certified in addiction medicine. If you have any trouble finding one, drop me a line and I'll find one for you.

I have worked with one guy who has a problem similar to yours, and with time things got better for him. One of the things that may be happening is that you are very anxious (anyone would be) and that anxiety is making things worse, which makes you more anxious, etc., etc. I'm sure that your symptoms will go away in time.

If someone here or anywhere else suggests a remedy, ask him or her what kind of research backs it up. I used to regard research as ivory tower thinking that had little to do with the real world, but things have changed. Many of us who grew up in the 50s and 60s have had substantial personal experience with a wide variety of drugs. Some of us even have advanced degrees and work in the substance disorders field. I'm not a guru or the source of all information, but I do what I can to help.

You are not alone.
 
I am by no means a drug addict, I have smoked weed about 10 times in my entire life and only drank alcohol on the weekends if ever. I have not had any further drug use since the night I had a bad reaction and in fact I never want to do a drug again. What I am looking for is a supplement to help with the recovery process of what JWH-018 did to me and thank you for the offering the help.
 
I'm in extreme pain everyday still and nothing has helped at all. Alcohol has no helping effect for me. This month is my one year anniversary of when it started and this whole year has been fucking terrible. I'd rather have no arms than deal with this anymore.
 
I'm sorry go hear hat ouchie have I tried boosting your GABA levels? It Jason been 4 months for me and I feel so much better, but 100% yet. I have tried a lot and I am almost positive its due to anxiety where or not I feel hat way or not. I now am looking at ways to boost my GABA, just hang in there.
 
Dewsta26 said:
you can overdose on these synthetic brands, where as its near impossible to overdose on weed.

it is very easy to overdose on synthetic mixes
This stuff is strong. respect it, and respect your brain.
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News flash: Just because you got really fucking high doesn't assure brain damage.

The word overdose gets tossed around a bit too often for things that I think it sounds absolutely dramatic for given the context. (A series of cannabinoid mimetics that have gotten HUGE recently and not a single person has ever died from them)

The synth powders are easy to make by nature (cheap) and are also more potent and rushy than THC in general, I guess sometimes stoners can't admit they just whited out and need a story to tell themselves lol. (Or maybe it is the end for some of you, take it how you please!)
 
I think just the fact that a lot of the freak-outs have been from those inexperienced to marijuana/other drugs shows a lot of the actual mechanisms of action here. Paranoid anxiety.

is there anyone out there who is experienced with RC's, hallucinogens, trips in general; that has suddenly developed this spice cancer?

I really don't think so. A tripper knows his psychosis will end. He trusts the drugs and himself, and respects both.
I think it is merely that act of the general public consuming research chemicals, and then assuming it's less than or equal to weed. A.k.a the people that would normally never gobble LSD or etc anyways.



EDIT: What if it turned out that instead of crazy problems appearing 20 years down the line for jwh smokers, we all got a crazy supernatural talent/power 20 years later. Like maybe all the jwh-blazers just end up with webbed fingers and a sweet pair of gills or something
 
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